Who should teams avoid in the 2012 Draft

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It happens every draft. Someone gets selected early in the 1st round, or a team trades up to grab a player still on the board and that player turns out to be a huge bust.

Who should teams avoid in the first round of the 2012 NFL draft to avoid landing this years biggest bust of a draft pick?
 
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My pick:

Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College

First of all I hate taking ILBs early in the first round. They have to be something really special to select one that early. Second, I don't see him being an impact player in the NFL. Sure he will rack up the tackles but how many of those will be for a loss?
 

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Dontari Poe scares the crap out of me.


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My pick:

Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College

First of all I hate taking ILBs early in the first round. They have to be something really special to select one that early. Second, I don't see him being an impact player in the NFL. Sure he will rack up the tackles but how many of those will be for a loss?

I'm thinking the same thing. Seems to make a ton of plays after 4-6 yard gains.
 

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Coples - There is just something about the kid that makes me uncomfortable.
 

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I'm thinking Andrew Luck. I think he will be a servicable NFL QB, just not a star like Manning is/was. Which will always loom for him in the background.
 

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I'm not sure there are players out there who are 100% "stay away from" - Warren Sapp and Randy Moss both fit that profile prior to being drafted, but their respective teams rolled the dice on them and got productive years out of them.

Different teams have different cultures - some can tolerate "high maintenance" players more than others. And some are more risk-tolerant wheelers and dealers than others.

Rather than flag certain players as "ones to avoid", I'd rather define them as "higher risk" because you never know which one might pleasantly surprise you.

On that basis - my list of high-risk prospects would include:

- Tannehill - (Purely on lack of experience)
- Fleener -(Will he need to learn to block)?
- Floyd -( Kirwin: Against common opponents - Blackmon wins hands down athletically).
- Toon - (I love the kid, but if he's that good, why isn't he rated higher)?
- Sanu (Lack of explosion)
- Reiff - (The short arms)
- Glenn - (Is he being overhyped in a thin year for OT's)?
- M Adams - (Looks the part but some question whether he can back it up in his play)
- Upshaw (May lack explosion)
- Ingram (Short with short arms)
- Copley - ("The Motor")
- Almost Every NT (Endurance/motor questions come with the territory)
- Jenkins (Character issues)
- Kirkpatrick (See Jenkins)
- Barron (Is he tough enough to play in box or fast enough to play CF)?

This doesn't mean that most (or even all) of these guys might not go on to enjoy huge success - it just points out risk factors that might make some teams wary. I'm guessing that, as in every draft year, some teams will roll dice and others will play it safer. And - depending on which of these guys succeeds and which ones bomb - some GM's will look like geniuses and others will look like bums.
 
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- Toon - (I love the kid, but if he's that good, why isn't he rated higher)?

Always a dilemma for the NFL teams. You have guys rated low who turn out great: Acho and Dockett for example and guys rated high who never pan out. So what do you do. Go with what you believe you've learned from interviews, workouts and watching tape. Not much else you can do.

This is why you'll never hear me say that someone is wrong about a player or scheme or whatever just because he's not a coach or scout.

The NFL brain trusts miss almost as much as we do.
 

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The NFL brain trusts miss almost as much as we do.
What's confusing is that, in Toon, you have a 6017 216 lb WR with good hands and an NFL pedigree who surprises everybody by running a 4.38 and 4.41 and even then is met by a collective yawn.

At the very least, you have to ask "why?" If I were a scout, this would lead me to do follow-up homework to find out whether there's a legit hidden issue or whether it's all smoke.
 
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It's a tough one. Brockers is awfully raw for a 1st rounder.

He's being drafted on potential, which is high.

Poe is in that category and he'll go before Brockers even.
 

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Last year I answered this question with "Cam Newton," so I'm disqualifying myself from it this year.
 

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Last year I answered this question with "Cam Newton," so I'm disqualifying myself from it this year.

I here you. On the other end, I was happy when we drafted Cody Brown. I thought he was our answer to OLB :mulli:
 

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Any OLman we ever take in the 1st round. The biggest waste of a pick there can be. Just look through the NFL teams and see where their starting OTs and OGs were taken. You don't need great ones, just decent ones who stay in shape. We need do need help at both OTs, but do it in the mid-rounds with guys like Jeff Allen or the kid from Cal.

Use the 1st round pick on someone who you see as making an instant impact on the team, like we did with last year's pick. That said, this year however I would look at DeCastro because I see him as an impact player and instantly improving our run game. If nothing else, just the fact that 4th and one at the goal line can be 3 or 7 points, depending on the confidence you have in your running game.

DeCastro being the exception, I would be happy with Floyd who instantly helps Fitz and Kolb/Skelly to be more productive. No way he would be a bust, more likely another Boldin.

I have recently gone off of our taking a OLB or DE for I think those available would all be reaches and not worth a 13 pick. But this Fletcher Cox kid is coming on strong on my board. I like him way above the other DTs, for he is a great pass rusher, has a great push in the middle, which we need. He would give us an awesome front line rotation. He isn't a true nose tackle, but I like him anyway and think he can be used in so many ways.

I love Barron, the safety. I feel he will be an instant success.

To me, Barron, Cox, DeCastro, and Floyd would be the 4 sure things to instantly improve our club. I see risk and question marks in everyone else who would be available at 13. Most likely one of these 4 would be there for us.
 
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I'd be most bummed out if we picked Barron, Glenn or Martin at #13.

No specific reason; I'd just be bummed.

Later on, Mike Adams, David (all due respect, Mitch), both Lewis's & Lindley would leave me a bit underwhelmed.
 
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I here you. On the other end, I was happy when we drafted Cody Brown. I thought he was our answer to OLB :mulli:

I'm always concerned when we draft a player I've heard little or nothing about in the early rounds recently. The resources we've had the last 5-6 years to find out about players has grown exponentially. That's why I wasn't too keen on Ryan Williams last year. I'd heard nothing from any source about him being a top RB.

Well, actually I didn't like it because the Cards are like 0-100 with 2nd round RBs and you all know how superstitious I am when it comes to the Cardinals.
 
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