Why don't other teams throw deep more often?

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One thing we've heard in talk about this team the last few days is how our offense is unique because of all the deep shots we take. I know the NFL is a copycat league,so why is no one copying what we are doing on offense? Instead, the other teams tend to run West Coast stuff almost all the time.

When you think about throwing deep there is a lot of reward against some risk. Even it is intercepted it could basically be a punt if they are tackled quickly. To me, it's logical that the rewards surpass the risk over the course of a game or season.

So, why don't other teams go for home run passes as much as we do? A lack of good QBs who can throw deep? That is my guess, but I'm also sure no team draws up as many big throws as we do.

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One thing we've heard in talk about this team the last few days is how our offense is unique because of all the deep shots we take. I know the NFL is a copycat league,so why is no one copying what we are doing on offense? Instead, the other teams tend to run West Coast stuff almost all the time.

When you think about throwing deep there is a lot of reward against some risk. Even it is intercepted it could basically be a punt if they are tackled quickly. To me, it's logical that the rewards surpass the risk over the course of a game or season.

So, why don't other teams go for home run passes as much as we do? A lack of good QBs who can throw deep? That is my guess, but I'm also sure no team draws up as many big throws as we do.

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All in all I don't think the risk vs reward is as much in every one's favor as it is for the Cards. The Cards have a pretty good pass protecting Oline, a QB that moves well in the pocket and throws an accurate deep ball and receivers that regularly exploit one on one matchups down the field. Bottom line is that not all teams have all those things that make it possible to be truly effective on deep passes without taking too much risk.
 

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I think it's fear of protecting the QB probably.

and most teams don't have as many speed WR's or guys who can get deep so they're more predictable.
 

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No other teams have the universal quality of offensive skill position players we have. Why don't they throw deep? It's hard, and they're more likely to do their teams harm than good.

We have a great quarterback, a very good offensive line, very good running backs, and great wide receivers, six deep.
 

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No other teams have the universal quality of offensive skill position players we have. Why don't they throw deep? It's hard, and they're more likely to do their teams harm than good.

We have a great quarterback, a very good offensive line, very good running backs, and great wide receivers, six deep.

I never thought I would hear the day that the cards have a great everything.. :D
 

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In order to throw deep, you need to have speed receivers who can stretch the field and get away from their coverage. We have 4 of these, John Brown, Michael Floyd, Juron Brown, and now JJ. I don't know of another team that has more than one of these types, with the exception of Cincinnati, who can put two on the field at the same time, and it works for them too as we just saw. The only other way is to have a big strong mobile QB like Cam Newton, Ben Rothlisberger, or Wilson from Seattle who can buy time while the speed receiver tries to get open. You heard it in every driving and safety class you ever had to set in on. Speed Kills.-----------and we have it and then some.
 

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After what seemed like EONS of time with no speed on this offense, the plethora of speed options on this O now is ridiculous and a joy to watch.
 

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Also the league see's what Brady and NE are doing.. Dink and dunk down the field, score ,win......
 

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Also the league see's what Brady and NE are doing.. Dink and dunk down the field, score ,win......
Brady is being stretched thin, again. He really may be the best QB ever. When he had Moss and others he chucked deep, now he throws crossing routes, curls, and short square in's.
 

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I can't believe I'm starting with this again, but in the old days going deep was more common. The Cowboys popularized this with Bob Hayes. Soon many teams had sprinters like the Cards' Mel Gray.

In the NFL it's like a game of leap frog. New defense schemes like the Tampa 2 and its predecessors came along. Safeties, like Larry Wilson became more common. Instead of being big hitters they were better at playing the ball. The trend to more athletic safeties continues today, though the Tampa 2 is almost dead.

Now old time coaches, like BA, are using multiple receiver sets to force single coverage and open up long passes. Tight ends who can get deep have also openned up coverage. That said, just wait and the defenses will learn a way to shut it down for a little while.
 

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I learned something very valuable when I was coaching basketball. My Arlington High school (MA) team had to face Cambridge, Ringe and Latin (home of Patrick Ewing) twice a year, and their full court press was suffocating---and it wasn't until we set back screens and threatened the deep pass that we started to have success against it. I told my inbounding passer that i didn't care if he threw the ball 90 feet out of bounds on the first play---just make the statement that we are going to pass over the top of it and see how they react to it. Much to my amazement, they called off the press after we connected on it a couple of times. As many time as i scouted them I never saw them take off the press.

Much of the same, imho, holds true in football. Why are defenses so much tougher in the red zone? Because they only have to defend a confined area, and whenever an offense allows a defense to keep the offense in a 30 yard box, the defense can really dig and be overaggressive in the passing lanes.

There is no question that the Cardinals' deep threats have opened up the field for Larry Fitzgerald and others because the safeties are worried about getting beat over the top. We have a GM, HC and QB who understand the need for speed on offense.
 
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