Why The 49ers Are Not An Example For The Cards

[Gee!]

The 49ers get blown out by the Seahawks and all hell breaks loose with fingers pointing in every direction (and no, everything is not all fine and dandy now)

The Cardinals get blown out by the Falcons and immediatly say they need to get back on the practice field and get better and that it was a learning experience.. They pointed the fingers at themselves individually..




People are blowing gaskets left and right around here.. But that one thread where the 49ers set an example for us is just plain ridiculous.. And whoever started it needs to be ashamed of themselves.. (i honestly dont know who started it)

 

[Catfish]

The 49ers get blown out by the Seahawks and all hell breaks loose with fingers pointing in every direction (and no, everything is not all fine and dandy now)

The Cardinals get blown out by the Falcons and immediatly say they need to get back on the practice field and get better and that it was a learning experience.. They pointed the fingers at themselves individually..




People are blowing gaskets left and right around here.. But that one thread where the 49ers set an example for us is just plain ridiculous.. And whoever started it needs to be ashamed of themselves.. (i honestly dont know who started it)

I started it and I stand by it even now.

Look-----I despise the Niners-----but at least they showed up to play. Did you even bother to read my post, or did you just do what a lot of people here do, (just read the title).

Most of the Cardinals shouldn't have even bothered to get dressed out for the game in Atlanta on Sunday. That wasn't about getting better----it was about blocking and tackling. That kind of stuff you learn in Pop Warner football.

Sure, Anderson needs to get better, and Whizenhunt was right, he did improve from the St. Louis game. I am not concerned about DA nearly as much as I am about our offensive and defensive lines. At least DA and our running backs came to play, and they showed some guts even though we were getting whipped.

The ones who needed to pay attention were our D-line, who failed to stop a single running play for a loss, or even at the line of scrimmage. THAT IS TOTAL LACK OF EFFORT and that is inexcusable. Our O-line was nearly as bad. The beating they allowed DA to undergo again was unforgivable.

So don't preach to me that I should be ashamed of saying that they should have followed the NINER's example. THey should be ashamed that they tanked this game and took a whuppin' without so much as making an effort. THAT IS WHAT IS UNFORGIVABLE-----and its even worse that the coach isn't even holding them accountable for that. Yes, they have to get better and learn new schemes and techniques------but BLOCKING AND TACKLING ARE NOT SOMETHING NEW THAT THEY HAVE TO LEARN. YOU ARE EITHER WILLING TO DO IT OR YOU ARE NOT WILLING-----AND SUNDAY IN ATLANTA THESE GUYS WEREN'T WILLING PERIOD.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

AND SUNDAY IN ATLANTA THESE GUYS WEREN'T WILLING PERIOD.

And I completely disagree, 100%.

I have seen what a Cardinals team looks like when they have thrown in the towel. That wasn't it on Sunday.

I am with Gee on this. Our team took responsibilty, didn't dodge questions, and I think the organization and team as a whole is trying to honestly take on their current situation.

The situation ? = Lack of identity. Who are the leaders, where are the strengths, where are the weaknesses. etc., etc.

Missed tackles ? How about the fact our defense has been out on the field for well more than the majority of the game two weeks in a row ?

Plus when your ILB'ers are too small, and too in-able you are going to see missed tackles. Don't confuse lack of effort with lack of skill.

And when all is said and done you could say the above is nothing but excuses. And you would be right. But our leader and coach has said repeatedly this week:

"We cannot make excuses. We have to play better football than this, and show we are a better football team than this."

Period. Nuff said. Whiz is not perfect, his mistakes are written all over this board this week. But at least he is consistent with his message, and straight forward.

None of this "Thanks for whipping our tail" Bush League crap. None of the "Pie, and food" metaphors from years past. None of the "A for effort, and showing good heart", we had a moral victory crap.

You can worship the Niners and jump on the bandwagon all you want. I'll stick with my team, our coach, our players, and our fans.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I started it and I stand by it even now.

Look-----I despise the Niners-----but at least they showed up to play. Did you even bother to read my post, or did you just do what a lot of people here do, (just read the title).

I never read more than the title of your threads. Maybe if the content wasn't always so weak...

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I agree. Why does it surprise anyone that a team shows up and plays hard at home on Monday night football? For years,one of best bets has been just to take the home team on Monday night regardless of the points. I haven't looked for a few year but the home team use to cover more than 60% of the time.I think it was closer to 70%.

 

[TJ]

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I agree. Why does it surprise anyone that a team shows up and plays hard at home on Monday night football? For years,one of best bets has been just to take the home team on Monday night regardless of the points. I haven't looked for a few year but the home team use to cover more than 60% of the time.I think it was closer to 70%.

Truth.

I'm still perplexed as to why we are admiring a team who is winless with poor coaching

 

[redheat]

The only thing the cards can learn from the 49ers is that having a solid run game will make your QB alot better.

That game was all gore and it was sick how espn was all over Smith. Smith is not capable of carrying that team. Stop gore and you stop the 49ers.

 

[cardncubfan]

I never read more than the title of your threads. Maybe if the content wasn't always so weak...

Not everyone is a football guru like you.

 

[PJ1]

I started it and I stand by it even now.

Look-----I despise the Niners-----but at least they showed up to play. Did you even bother to read my post, or did you just do what a lot of people here do, (just read the title).

Most of the Cardinals shouldn't have even bothered to get dressed out for the game in Atlanta on Sunday. That wasn't about getting better----it was about blocking and tackling. That kind of stuff you learn in Pop Warner football.

Sure, Anderson needs to get better, and Whizenhunt was right, he did improve from the St. Louis game. I am not concerned about DA nearly as much as I am about our offensive and defensive lines. At least DA and our running backs came to play, and they showed some guts even though we were getting whipped.

The ones who needed to pay attention were our D-line, who failed to stop a single running play for a loss, or even at the line of scrimmage. THAT IS TOTAL LACK OF EFFORT and that is inexcusable. Our O-line was nearly as bad. The beating they allowed DA to undergo again was unforgivable.

So don't preach to me that I should be ashamed of saying that they should have followed the NINER's example. THey should be ashamed that they tanked this game and took a whuppin' without so much as making an effort. THAT IS WHAT IS UNFORGIVABLE-----and its even worse that the coach isn't even holding them accountable for that. Yes, they have to get better and learn new schemes and techniques------but BLOCKING AND TACKLING ARE NOT SOMETHING NEW THAT THEY HAVE TO LEARN. YOU ARE EITHER WILLING TO DO IT OR YOU ARE NOT WILLING-----AND SUNDAY IN ATLANTA THESE GUYS WEREN'T WILLING PERIOD.

DA was better in the Atlanta game? I must have missed that part. Better at what? DA came to play? Again I missed it.

 

[Zeno]

Sure, Anderson needs to get better, and Whizenhunt was right, he did improve from the St. Louis game.

Statements like that is why people don't read your posts. Ridiculous to the extreme. In what way did DA get better from week 1 to 2? I haven't seen the quote you speak of from WhiSenhunt saying he improved but if he said that he is sadly making excuses.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Statements like that is why people don't read your posts. Ridiculous to the extreme. In what way did DA get better from week 1 to 2? I haven't seen the quote you speak of from WhiSenhunt saying he improved but if he said that he is sadly making excuses.

He improved on 3rd down right?

 

[D-Dogg]

He improved on 3rd down right?

I don't think we converted one 3rd down Sunday.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I don't think we converted one 3rd down Sunday.

SJK.

 

[D-Dogg]

Maybe I killed it, but at least I got to post that nugget of ineptitude again.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

I agree. Why does it surprise anyone that a team shows up and plays hard at home on Monday night football? For years,one of best bets has been just to take the home team on Monday night regardless of the points. I haven't looked for a few year but the home team use to cover more than 60% of the time.I think it was closer to 70%.

word. And I won money on the Niners

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

And I completely disagree, 100%.

I have seen what a Cardinals team looks like when they have thrown in the towel. That wasn't it on Sunday.

I am with Gee on this. Our team took responsibilty, didn't dodge questions, and I think the organization and team as a whole is trying to honestly take on their current situation.

The situation ? = Lack of identity. Who are the leaders, where are the strengths, where are the weaknesses. etc., etc.

Missed tackles ? How about the fact our defense has been out on the field for well more than the majority of the game two weeks in a row ?

Plus when your ILB'ers are too small, and too in-able you are going to see missed tackles. Don't confuse lack of effort with lack of skill.

And when all is said and done you could say the above is nothing but excuses. And you would be right. But our leader and coach has said repeatedly this week:

"We cannot make excuses. We have to play better football than this, and show we are a better football team than this."

Period. Nuff said. Whiz is not perfect, his mistakes are written all over this board this week. But at least he is consistent with his message, and straight forward.

None of this "Thanks for whipping our tail" Bush League crap. None of the "Pie, and food" metaphors from years past. None of the "A for effort, and showing good heart", we had a moral victory crap.

You can worship the Niners and jump on the bandwagon all you want. I'll stick with my team, our coach, our players, and our fans.

This is nominated for post of the week for me

The thing that rings true to me is "I have seen this team give up before" which if you watch the Mac years I am not sure how you could miss it. Road game after road game this team would give up after 5-6 minutes of the first quarter. They got beat by bad teams by 4 TD's.

No my friend this team has not given up at all. There is work to be done but with players like Dockett, Porter, Fitz, this team will give maximum effort.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I agree. Why does it surprise anyone that a team shows up and plays hard at home on Monday night football? For years,one of best bets has been just to take the home team on Monday night regardless of the points. I haven't looked for a few year but the home team use to cover more than 60% of the time.I think it was closer to 70%.

I think his post was an attempt to compare the 9ers and Cards. So in that context, perhaps you are suggesting that this Cards team would have performed at an equal level to what the 9ers produced this past Monday against the Saints?
Not only am I not sure about that, but, exactly what is the Cards history of performing on the national stage - excluding the post season of course??
IIRC, the Cards have made it quite habitual to get blown out on Sunday and Monday nighters... or, to lose in epic fashion (da Bears).

 

[Catfish]

Statements like that is why people don't read your posts. Ridiculous to the extreme. In what way did DA get better from week 1 to 2? I haven't seen the quote you speak of from WhiSenhunt saying he improved but if he said that he is sadly making excuses.

He improved from 53% to 55% completion rate. Also got the ball to Fitz more often. Whis was OK with his performance------By the way, the only comparison that I made was that the niners played hard all game, and hung in there despite making all kinds of costly mistakes. We could learn from that----but if you would rather point out the hundreds of reasons not to like the Niners, go for it. I don't like them either.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He improved from 53% to 55% completion rate. Also got the ball to Fitz more often. Whis was OK with his performance------

He also throw 2 more INT's and didn't complete a single first down. Do you really think he improved? Seriously?

 

[Shane]

didn't complete a single first down.

Completely inaccurate FYI.

 

[TJ]

Completely inaccurate FYI.

No pun intended

 

[az1965]

He also throw 2 more INT's and didn't complete a single first down. Do you really think he improved? Seriously?

Huh?

Did you mean a single third down?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Completely inaccurate FYI.

Huh?

Did you mean a single third down?

yeah. My mind was on scud, hence the inaccuracy.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I think his post was an attempt to compare the 9ers and Cards. So in that context, perhaps you are suggesting that this Cards team would have performed at an equal level to what the 9ers produced this past Monday against the Saints?
Not only am I not sure about that, but, exactly what is the Cards history of performing on the national stage - excluding the post season of course??
IIRC, the Cards have made it quite habitual to get blown out on Sunday and Monday nighters... or, to lose in epic fashion (da Bears).

I haven't looked but last year they beat the Giants in NY, the Vikings at home ,got blown out by Indy, and lost at SF. The year before they beat SF at home and got blown away on Thanksgiving day at Philly, short week so i don't count that so much. So at home they are 2-1 at home,67%, and that's about what is expected.

Also, even though they lost, the Cards put up an incredible performance againt the undefeated Bears in Chicago. My point is teams, especially the home team, are usually ready to play come Monday night. Home underdogs ,like SF was, even moreso.