Why the Cards need to turn it around before the stadium.

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I don't see how the attendance could really get much worse. Football is football and 20-25,000 will just show up regardless of the commute.

Ryan, Buy a party bus. Heres the schedule.

7:00am- Ryan leaves house.
7:30am- Pick up AzCards21 and Jstadvl.
8:00am- Pick up 11 and Birdie.
8:15am- Buy beer.
9:00am- Stop to pee. Buy more beer.
9:30am- Tailgate!
2:00pm-5:00pm- Game time in ASFN section!
6:00pm- leave stadium.
6:30pm- Stop to pee.
7:00pm- Stop to pee.
7:30pm- Drop off 11 and Birdie.
8:00pm- Drop off 21 and Dvl.
8:30pm- Home.
8:35pm- Find you've been kicked out of the master bedroom.

I got it all figured out. :thumbup:
 

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Dude, I could curve 2 hours of time off that plan by not stopping to Pee....we must get one of those camping urinal thingys
 

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Actually, I've been wondering how feasible it would be for a bunch of people to chip in for a party bus from the East Valley. Can you imagine a whole fleet of those shuttling people over from the East Valley? Sweet!
 

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
Dude, I could curve 2 hours of time off that plan by not stopping to Pee....we must get one of those camping urinal thingys

Camping World here we come. We need an awning too.
 

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Originally posted by AzCards21
Camping World here we come. We need an awning too.

...and a huge cooler!

We could open a corporate account at Midwestern Meats! Brats and steaks!
 

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Originally posted by mdamien13
Actually, I've been wondering how feasible it would be for a bunch of people to chip in for a party bus from the East Valley. Can you imagine a whole fleet of those shuttling people over from the East Valley? Sweet!

Gilbert is between Ryan and Us. Be ready by 7:15.
 

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Originally posted by Brian in Mesa
Uh, 45.8 miles.

I know you said "approaching" 80, but c'mon!

:D

The drama had to be built BIM, it had to be BUILT!

btw, now you're not invited on the party bus because you would just be correcting everybody's slured English skills anyway :)
 

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
btw, now you're not invited on the party bus because you would just be correcting everybody's slured English skills anyway :)

I'd likely be the only one able to drive legally. But we'd have to stop off for Church and Sunday School before the game...

:D
 

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Originally posted by Brian in Mesa
I'd likely be the only one able to drive legally. But we'd have to stop off for Church and Sunday School before the game...

:D

Yeah, bathroom breaks are on the list.... :)
 

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Originally posted by kerouac9
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I believe that this is the long and the short of what I'm trying to say. IMO, what the Cards are doing are moving away from some of their less sucky fans and into an area with a base of, at best, unknown quality fans.

The only thing is that the location that they're moving to is going to have a far larger population of transplants, and that doesn't bode well for a franchise that hasn't done much to connect with native fans.


Living in Vegas is quite similiar to Phoenix in this respect. Vegas has no 'major league' sports team but what it has in the 4 + years I have lived here has been:

1. Three different minor league hockey teams from two different leagues
2. 2 different basketball teams from 2 different leagues
3. 1 AAA Dodgers farm club
4. An XFL team
5. And prior to me living here a CFL franchise

This town, outside of the current hockey team, does not support those teams for one very big reason. None of them where very good.

It is very true when people say that if your a winner fans will come. But there is another part to this equation. If you are a new team to an area, it isnt just good enough to win, but you have to win immediatly. The reason is start solidifying the roots of a fan base.

A Fan base isnt just fans. It is a group that will follow a team whether they win or lose. (a la this board). That was never established in PHX and the major reason for that is the lack of winning right when the team came to AZ.

Those same people who came to opeining night (67,000+ ) and their sons and daughters/granchildren etc would have supported this team through thick and thin if the team could have made a legitimite connection with them from day 1. The way to make that connection?? WINNING

The problem now lies in the fact that if this team can turn it around it cant be for 1 or 2 seasons. They still have to make that connection with the fan base. They have to have unprecented run that will allow all these fans the opportunity to revel in the winning and be able to shrug off the losing when it comes. Yet still support this team.

Consider the opening of this stadium as 1988 all over again. True its about winning, but more importantly, its about making that connection, so when the losing comes, and it will come, fans will not abandon this team!

That is why the next few seasons are soo critical for the success of this franchise. If fans do not show up in support then money that sould be used for supporting this team will not be there, thus the losing cycle, and no fan base, will continue.

Like I said before this cannot be 1-2 solid seasons. This team needs to connect with the fan base, change the pereption of the team and its owners, shake things up, grab some exciting playmakers whatever it takes to show the valley that this is not your Fathers cardinals!
 

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Forget a party bus - you guys should chip in and buy/rent a party house near the stadium. Big parties on Saturday nights, crash out, wake up and head for the parking lot, pre-game partying, 1st half, halftime gathering (except Ryan), 2nd half, post-game partying, sleep off the alcohol, drive home. :D

Or - find someone that already lives in the area and crash at their place. Shawn (FischerKing) lives just around the corner. Hint, hint. :wave:
 

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Originally posted by AzCards21
Gilbert is between Ryan and Us. Be ready by 7:15.


Can you add 8+ hours to the schedule and pick me up in Vegas??






ps. I will bring showgirls and midget clowns!
 

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Originally posted by mdamien13
Ryan, where the hell did you find that pic of the three dudes?

Just do a search for "Guys who are looking to rent a bus to go to a Cardinals game"
 

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Originally posted by Brian in Mesa
Forget a party bus - you guys should chip in and buy/rent a party house near the stadium. Big parties on Saturday nights, crash out, wake up and head for the parking lot, pre-game partying, 1st half, halftime gathering (except Ryan), 2nd half, post-game partying, sleep off the alcohol, drive home. :D

We are waiting for you to change your name to "BIG" Brian in Glendale
 

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Originally posted by SECTION 11
and an obnoxiously loud stereo!
wall to wall carpeting!
and a hood scoop!

:thumbup:
Nothing can stop us!
 

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Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
Can you add 8+ hours to the schedule and pick me up in Vegas??






ps. I will bring showgirls and midget clowns!

Meet us halfway. BIM's church parking lot. We'll be the ones with the loud stereo.




And hoodscoop.
 

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