Why Was That Not A TD?

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When we recovered the fumble that led to the tying FG, why was it not a TD when Dockett(I think) picked it up and ran it in?
 

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Because the call had to be reviewed, you get the ball where the defense recovered. You don't get to advance the ball, but you get to have posession.

Funny, it is because of the Cardinals, and their NFC Championship game vs. the Eagles that this rule is even in the books.

It came about after that horrendous call in the NFC Championship game where the Cardinals recovered a kickoff, and the refs (as usuall) blew the call. The replay showed it was obviously the Cardinals ball, but the play was not reviewable.
 

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When we recovered the fumble that led to the tying FG, why was it not a TD when Dockett(I think) picked it up and ran it in?

Play was ruled dead when the ref blew his whistle. Which is stupid, because you can still recover the fumble. They changed the rule, because it used to be that if the whistle blew the play was dead even if replay showed a clear fumble and recovery by an opposing team. We were burnt by this lack of a rule a couple years ago I think against the 9ers.

Next year I am sure they will come out with a much more defined rule about a player giving himself up, or just dropping the ball. :mulli:
 
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It's amazing what these people miss. Wallace clearly fumbled that ball as it was out even before his knee came even remotely close to the ground. As for the non-TD, in reality, there's no excuse why we couldn't punch it in from 4 yards out. Our offense in the red zone needs to improve. Feely has 7 FG's less than 30 yards. This needs to improve.
 

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It's amazing what these people miss. Wallace clearly fumbled that ball as it was out even before his knee came even remotely close to the ground. As for the non-TD, in reality, there's no excuse why we couldn't punch it in from 4 yards out. Our offense in the red zone needs to improve. Feely has 7 FG's less than 30 yards. This needs to improve.

The announcer said something like, 'If the Cards complete one more pass, they will be out of FG range.'

One of the funniest things I have ever heard an announcer say.
 

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We got too smart in play calling... should have just punched it in with Beanie
 

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We got too smart in play calling... should have just punched it in with Beanie

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Those plays were crap. Cutesy poo, trickery bull crap. This is why I am still at odds with Whiz.

Just pound the ball, and if you are stopped three times, who cares ?

You eat up clock, and you don't lose as many yards.
 

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Those plays were crap. Cutesy poo, trickery bull crap. This is why I am still at odds with Whiz.

Just pound the ball, and if you are stopped three times, who cares ?

You eat up clock, and you don't lose as many yards.

To be fair, I have absolutely no problem with the fade attempt to Fitz. They should try that at least once every time they are that close to the end zone with single coverage on Fitz. The other two calls (shovel pass, and RB screen were horrible play calls)
 

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We got too smart in play calling... should have just punched it in with Beanie
Whoa! On 2nd down of the series leading to the tieing FG, we ran Beanie up the gut into the teeth of the Cleve offense & he lost 2 yards.
 

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Those plays were crap. Cutesy poo, trickery bull crap. This is why I am still at odds with Whiz.

Just pound the ball, and if you are stopped three times, who cares ?

You eat up clock, and you don't lose as many yards.

They got way too cute on this possession. Darn lucky it didn't become a disaster with Feely blowing the FG or something.
 

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Those plays were crap. Cutesy poo, trickery bull crap. This is why I am still at odds with Whiz.

Just pound the ball, and if you are stopped three times, who cares ?

You eat up clock, and you don't lose as many yards.

Same reasons I am still at odds with Whiz too. Dumb play calling for the situation before him.
 

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Those plays were crap. Cutesy poo, trickery bull crap. This is why I am still at odds with Whiz.

Just pound the ball, and if you are stopped three times, who cares ?

You eat up clock, and you don't lose as many yards.

I was screaming "Todd Haley needs to feed his kids!" after those calls. Really frustrating.
 

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Because the call had to be reviewed, you get the ball where the defense recovered. You don't get to advance the ball, but you get to have posession.

Funny, it is because of the Cardinals, and their NFC Championship game vs. the Eagles that this rule is even in the books.

It came about after that horrendous call in the NFC Championship game where the Cardinals recovered a kickoff, and the refs (as usuall) blew the call. The replay showed it was obviously the Cardinals ball, but the play was not reviewable.

I'm pretty sure the big reason was the Ed "Guns" Hockolee blown call at Denver on the QB non-fumble that was the big cause of this rule change, though our playoff game didn't hurt the cause.
 

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Those plays were crap. Cutesy poo, trickery bull crap. This is why I am still at odds with Whiz.

Just pound the ball, and if you are stopped three times, who cares ?

You eat up clock, and you don't lose as many yards.

Dont really understand this logic. We were down 3. If we don't score, we kick the field goal. Losing yards from the 5 doesn't generally put you out of FG range, which it did not. And if you don't score a TD, clock doesn't matter because you are tied.

If you don't like the shovel pass, I get that, but these reasons don't support that.
 

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because it was blown dead, and by rule the offense did not then have a chance to stop the advance so it is given at the possession...I think that is it :)
 

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