Will Anderson Jr is that rare prospect who checks all the boxes.

[BullheadCardFan]

Pick #3 comes up and Anderson is still on the board

All of us...

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[BullheadCardFan]

And then after we are all excited and hoping to hear his name....

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Monti trades back too far to get him

 

[Goldfield]

That’s true for every position including QB.

Aaron Rodgers only has one ring. What a scrub.

Patrick Mahomes didn’t win a chip for two straight years. Time to move on from him.

Joe Burrow has made three consecutive conference title games but he hasn’t won the Super Bowl. Should Cincy really pay him?

You get incrementally better at every position you can and hope to have outstanding players at key spots like Edge. You win if and when that group is complemented by a supporting cast that matures at the right moment.

You draft Will Anderson because you don’t plan on making an appearance in the top 5 again for some time.

Yes. You can’t choose when you get the great edge player. You have to get them the few chances you get. That’s for all positions. Get top talent as often as your can.

 

[Harry]

SackSEER, Football Outsiders' statistical system for projecting the NFL success of college edge rushers is projecting only 26 sacks in his first 5 years. ESPN assessment is “Anderson's SackSEER projection is high enough that he should certainly succeed in the NFL -- and maybe even become a star -- but it also suggests that he might not be an elite prospect.”

 

[Dr. Jones]

SackSEER, Football Outsiders' statistical system for projecting the NFL success of college edge rushers is projecting only 26 sacks in his first 5 years. ESPN assessment is “Anderson's SackSEER projection is high enough that he should certainly succeed in the NFL -- and maybe even become a star -- but it also suggests that he might not be an elite prospect.”

Interesting. Is there a history of this projection being true for past prospects? I respect FO so I'd like to know how others have fared in this system.

I'd like to know about Thibodeaux, Bosa, Allen, Ferrell, Hutchinson, & Walker personally.

These are the top 5 level DE picks of the past few years and we should be able to project their accuracy a bit.

 

[kerouac9]

Interesting. Is there a history of this projection being true for past prospects? I respect FO so I'd like to know how others have fared in this system.

I'd like to know about Thibodeaux, Bosa, Allen, Ferrell, Hutchinson, & Walker personally.

These are the top 5 level DE picks of the past few years and we should be able to project their accuracy a bit.

So I checked SackSEER from 2019. Brian Burns was the best prospect in the metric and projected 26.6 sacks through five seasons.

He has 35 through four.

SackSEER had Nick Bosa 4th and projected him with 22 sacks.

 

[Dr. Jones]

So by my unofficial kool-aid wearing blinders: Will Anderson is rated as a better prospect in the SackSEER rating system than Nick Bosa was.

#Championship

 

[Krangodnzr]

So by my unofficial kool-aid wearing blinders: Will Anderson is rated as a better prospect in the SackSEER rating system than Nick Bosa was.

#Championship

Link?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Link?

It's the past 4 or so posts. K9 provided the context.

 

[kerouac9]

Link?

SackSEER 2019

Our statistical projections for edge rushers in this year's draft agree with the consensus that the talent pool at the position is deep, but are surprisingly pessimistic about Ohio State's Nick Bosa, expected to be the first pass-rusher off the board Thursday night. Who has the best statistical...

www.footballoutsiders.com

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I'm far more concerned about building a great team than I am about having a great edge rusher.

Most Team Sacks 2022 Season | StatMuse

The Philadelphia Eagles had the most sacks by a team in 2022, with 70 sacks.

www.statmuse.com

Hey, lookie there...the two teams in the super bowl were.....1 and 2 in sacks! But who wants an edge rusher anyway?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Downplaying the value of edge rushers/sacks is truly galaxy brain stuff. Getting pressure on a QB is key to winning in the NFL.

Which NFL Teams Pressure The Qb The Most 2022 Season | StatMuse

Which NFL teams pressure the qb the most 2022 season?

www.statmuse.com

 

[GatorAZ]

So I checked SackSEER from 2019. Brian Burns was the best prospect in the metric and projected 26.6 sacks through five seasons.

He has 35 through four.

SackSEER had Nick Bosa 4th and projected him with 22 sacks.

Bosa’s projection issues were with durability. When healthy he’s Bruce Smith. I don’t see an elite guy in Anderson Jr but if you tell me he’s got Markus Golden’s motor with 25% more talent it’s worth a top-5 pick.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Bosa’s projection issues were with durability. When healthy he’s Bruce Smith. I don’t see an elite guy in Anderson Jr but if you tell me he’s got Markus Golden’s motor with 25% more talent it’s worth a top-5 pick.

We're in desperate need of high floor/high character players. Anderson fits the bill nicely.

 

[Cheesebeef]

We're in desperate need of high floor/high character players. Anderson fits the bill nicely.

At a premiere position where we’re also of desperate need.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

At a premiere position where we’re also of desperate need.

So what is going to be our version of Pace/Skillet Hands this time?

 

[Harry]

Interesting. Is there a history of this projection being true for past prospects? I respect FO so I'd like to know how others have fared in this system.

I'd like to know about Thibodeaux, Bosa, Allen, Ferrell, Hutchinson, & Walker personally.

These are the top 5 level DE picks of the past few years and we should be able to project their accuracy a bit.

They were overly optimistic in 2020, they missed low on a couple of guys in 2021. If anything on the whole they rarely guess significantly low. The importance of this is not to think he’s a sure thing fir 10 sacks a year. He likely will do better with pressures. Pegging him as the next Bosa is likely optimistic, they’re saying.

 

[Harry]

Just type sackseer followed by a date in google

 

[DVontel]

Will Anderson Jr. is both a high ceiling & high floor player.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Bosa’s projection issues were with durability. When healthy he’s Bruce Smith. I don’t see an elite guy in Anderson Jr but if you tell me he’s got Markus Golden’s motor with 25% more talent it’s worth a top-5 pick.

Man he became the guy I wanted when he was a freshman. I e never seen anyone with as quick a get off at snap.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Man he became the guy I wanted when he was a freshman. I e never seen anyone with as quick a get off at snap.

Yeah I really wanted the Cards to take Bosa when they had a chance. I had golf lessons during that draft when I heard that the Cards took Murray. I was so pissed that I chrushed my next drive farther than I have ever had.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Bosa’s projection issues were with durability. When healthy he’s Bruce Smith. I don’t see an elite guy in Anderson Jr but if you tell me he’s got Markus Golden’s motor with 25% more talent it’s worth a top-5 pick.

Man he became the guy I wanted when he was a freshman. I e never seen anyone with as quick a

Yeah I really wanted the Cards to take Bosa when they had a chance. I had golf lessons during that draft when I heard that the Cards took Murray. I was so pissed that I chrushed my next drive farther than I have ever had.

i was talking about will Anderson not the racist bosa POS.

 

[Dr. Jones]

They were overly optimistic in 2020, they missed low on a couple of guys in 2021. If anything on the whole they rarely guess significantly low. The importance of this is not to think he’s a sure thing fir 10 sacks a year. He likely will do better with pressures. Pegging him as the next Bosa is likely optimistic, they’re saying.

If we got 8 to 12 sacks a year combined with insane edge setting I would be over the moon.

Anderson has the speed and the power to do both at well above-average levels.

Will Anderson Jr. is both a high ceiling & high floor player.

This.

 

[Stout]

SackSEER, Football Outsiders' statistical system for projecting the NFL success of college edge rushers is projecting only 26 sacks in his first 5 years. ESPN assessment is “Anderson's SackSEER projection is high enough that he should certainly succeed in the NFL -- and maybe even become a star -- but it also suggests that he might not be an elite prospect.”

And we should care about SackSEER's projections because...? I mean, I doubt teams are looking at SackSEER and thinking, "Man, we better not draft this kid high."

 

[slanidrac16]

Trading back to take a cb is insane unless you’re talking about a Dion Sanders.
Give me a very good front seven where pressure can come from anywhere and average against the run and I will be happy.