Will Horton = a better DRC?

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A couple points here:
1-James Harrison: Was an undrafted free agent whom the Steelers signed in 2004 after the Ravens cut him twice.
2-Lamarr Woodley: Played both a stand up OLB and down DE in Michigan's defense depending on the formation, and was a 2nd round pick.
3-Jason Worilds: 2nd round pick.
4-DeMarcus Ware: Very true, no end in college but was signed out of High School as an All Area LB and WR.
5: Mario Williams: Was drafted as an end and has played as an end for his entire career. I am not sure where he fits in your argument.

As for Quinn and the NC defense, one good statistical season on a very talented team. I have a hard time believing that college coaches spent the 2009 offseason game planning for a Soph coming off a 2 sack season. In season yeah, they probably saw him flash skill, but on a defense with Cam Thomas, Marvin Austin, Bruce Carter, Quan Sturdivant, Kendric Bruney, and Deunta Williams they had ton of players to worry about. Your "they targeted" argument is weak on a defense stacked like that one was.

And lastly Dowling. Yes he had a very good career at Virginia, but he is coming off a fractured ankle. For a player whose best abilities are his chaneg of direction, and acceleration, this is a huge reason for concern. Dowling was never a top speed CB, but his strength was in that change of direction and acceleration which he may never get back.

Yes we need to draft pass rushers, but I believe that you can burn yourself more often than not drafting projection players with limited college production with the number 5 pick in the draft. Especially those who have never player the position before. Take the Pittsburgh approach, take projection linebackers outside of the first round where you can give them time to develop, and where they won't be set you back years if they can't make the conversion.


My point regarding those players is that they can convert from DE to OLB. And Woodley played very sparingly with his hand off the ground. My point with Mario, is he's going to be a an OLB now in Houston with them moving to a 3-4 defense. It is unknown whether he'll succeed sure, but seems everyone believes he will.

As for opposing teams gameplanning for Quinn, no, they didn't spend the offseason doing it, but after the first few games, they sure were. Weak argument my eye...go back and watch his games in 2009. He was the one they doubled much more so than the others. I doubt scouts all over the nation are going to having this guy so high on their list just because of 2 great games and a handul of mediocre ones. There's buzz about him for a reason. Now don't get me wrong, I know he's not a guarantee, but he is an outstanding talent at a position of need for us. Our need at DB is in my opinion a much lesser need than OLB. Problem with our DB's is, that they've been taught wrong. It would still be nice to add another talented DB, but not with our #5 when we could fill a need with legit talent at a position that has been our bane for what seems ever. We passed on Suggs once, don't want to do it again.

As for fractured ankles, they usually heal just fine. It's when you get into ligament and tendon damage that the injuries tend to linger. But you know, even with the second pick, I might still be inclined to take another LB. Our LB corps is that bad. If Mason Foster is still here, I would have to seriously consider taking him as well.

I don't know, I love Patrick Peterson, but I don't see our DBs as an area that has to be upgraded in the first round. I'm fine taking a CB in rounds 2 or 3. Heck, I'm fine not even drafting a cb if we can land someone like Richard Marshall via FA.
 

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My point regarding those players is that they can convert from DE to OLB. And Woodley played very sparingly with his hand off the ground. My point with Mario, is he's going to be a an OLB now in Houston with them moving to a 3-4 defense. It is unknown whether he'll succeed sure, but seems everyone believes he will.

As for opposing teams gameplanning for Quinn, no, they didn't spend the offseason doing it, but after the first few games, they sure were. Weak argument my eye...go back and watch his games in 2009. He was the one they doubled much more so than the others. I doubt scouts all over the nation are going to having this guy so high on their list just because of 2 great games and a handul of mediocre ones. There's buzz about him for a reason. Now don't get me wrong, I know he's not a guarantee, but he is an outstanding talent at a position of need for us. Our need at DB is in my opinion a much lesser need than OLB. Problem with our DB's is, that they've been taught wrong. It would still be nice to add another talented DB, but not with our #5 when we could fill a need with legit talent at a position that has been our bane for what seems ever. We passed on Suggs once, don't want to do it again.

As for fractured ankles, they usually heal just fine. It's when you get into ligament and tendon damage that the injuries tend to linger. But you know, even with the second pick, I might still be inclined to take another LB. Our LB corps is that bad. If Mason Foster is still here, I would have to seriously consider taking him as well.

I don't know, I love Patrick Peterson, but I don't see our DBs as an area that has to be upgraded in the first round. I'm fine taking a CB in rounds 2 or 3. Heck, I'm fine not even drafting a cb if we can land someone like Richard Marshall via FA.

I am pretty ok with this statement as well. There are 2 cbs that I really like right now and they are Patrick Peterson (because I believe that he is the best player in the draft and can help our team in multiple ways) and Kendrick Burney out of NC. I am undecided on the CB from Colorado who is getting a little hype.

FA will be a fine area to address CB if we decide to reach for an OLB in round 1. I say reach, because all 3 of the top ones have red flags in my opinion.
 

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I am pretty ok with this statement as well. There are 2 cbs that I really like right now and they are Patrick Peterson (because I believe that he is the best player in the draft and can help our team in multiple ways) and Kendrick Burney out of NC. I am undecided on the CB from Colorado who is getting a little hype.

FA will be a fine area to address CB if we decide to reach for an OLB in round 1. I say reach, because all 3 of the top ones have red flags in my opinion.

Well what ever happens, I think we both can agree that our defense needs some serious infusion of talent.

I'm just glad our posts are getting shorter and shorter. My hand is starting to cramp :D
 
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