Wilson hit reviewed today on NFL Network

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Just an FYI.

Mike P never said that the call was correct on the field. He went over the rules for a defenseless receiver and at the end said that "leading with the forearm to the neck area" is what was called. He never said that the call was correct or incorrect.

Even more BS, then. Mike P needs to sack up and take a stance. If he thinks it was a penalty, then say so vehemently. If not, then say it was absolutely the wrong call.
 

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I agree with the sentiment that it was a clean hit. I also noticed that the way Perreira worded his response made it very ambiguous as to whether or not he agreed with the call. He said "this is was the thinking when the flag was thrown" but he never said whether or not he agreed that the infraction actually occurred.

Wilson lowered his shoulder. The hit was clean. Unfortunately, the way the league is set up now, if it's a hard hit, they're going to find something illegal about it. I've seen hits this year where a guy slams into another guy and there helmets make incidental contact. Flag!! Helmet to helmet contact!!

Seriously, it seems like the new unwritten rule is that hard hits are patently illegal in today's NFL.
 

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Just an FYI.

Mike P never said that the call was correct on the field. He went over the rules for a defenseless receiver and at the end said that "leading with the forearm to the neck area" is what was called. He never said that the call was correct or incorrect.

Yeah, I agree. I read the same candy-arse stance into his comments too. Glad to know it wasn't just me that saw it that way.
 

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That was a clean hit and anyone who can't see that is probably an alcoholic.
 

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Just an FYI.

Mike P never said that the call was correct on the field. He went over the rules for a defenseless receiver and at the end said that "leading with the forearm to the neck area" is what was called. He never said that the call was correct or incorrect.

Thanks for your insight, Jim.
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FWIW,Perriera never said that Wilson led with his forearm. Look at what he said. He said that was what was called. He didn't say that is actually what happened. I think that is why they went over it real quick and never showed any close replays. I'm sure if Wilson led with his forearm they would have showed it and explained why that was the proper call.

i posted this 3 hours prior to JimO. I get no credit :D.
 

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On one hand, I am surprised they looked at it--

on the other, I am not surprised that the head of officiating didnt contradict or disagree with the call on the field -- particularly a key one late in the game

What would be interesting? If Perriera actually did "fess up" to incorrect calls.

Think of the credibility that the League would have if they did.

While we dont like it, I understand why and how an official threw a flag on the play. I accept that refs are human and arent going to have 100% accuracy. What would be better is having the league acknowledge on those few calls: "we got this one wrong"
 

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On one hand, I am surprised they looked at it--

on the other, I am not surprised that the head of officiating didnt contradict or disagree with the call on the field -- particularly a key one late in the game

What would be interesting? If Perriera actually did "fess up" to incorrect calls.

Think of the credibility that the League would have if they did.

While we dont like it, I understand why and how an official threw a flag on the play. I accept that refs are human and arent going to have 100% accuracy. What would be better is having the league acknowledge on those few calls: "we got this one wrong"

What would be better is having an official who was actually somewhere within a mile of the play approach the official who was a mile away and explain why it isn't a penalty. Refs meet over so many things, and get so many calls right because of it, but then don't do it in certain key situations.
 

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What would be better is having an official who was actually somewhere within a mile of the play approach the official who was a mile away and explain why it isn't a penalty. Refs meet over so many things, and get so many calls right because of it, but then don't do it in certain key situations.
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Horrible call. I don't agree with it at all. I like what Boldin said in an interview:

“We know we’re not going to get calls because no one respects us, It’s like we have to blow teams out in order to win. We just have to play like it’s us-against-everyone.”

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What would be better is having an official who was actually somewhere within a mile of the play approach the official who was a mile away and explain why it isn't a penalty. Refs meet over so many things, and get so many calls right because of it, but then don't do it in certain key situations.

I agree-- I have seen many times a flag thrown, a conference of officials, and then the "there is no foul on the play" announced
 

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To bring up an old thread, here's what former ref Jerry Markbreit said about the hit:
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune...76752.story?coll=cs-bears-asktheref-headlines
In the closing minutes of the Cardinals-Ravens game, Adrian Wilson was called for a personal foul when he delivered a hard hit to Ravens tight end Todd Heap. In explaining the foul, the referee made mention of Heap being a "defenseless receiver". Can you explain this "defenseless receiver" rule? -- Matt, Freehold, N.J.

All players in virtually defenseless postures are protected from unnecessary hits by the defense, which include helmet-to-helmet contact, helmet-to-body contact, and blows to the head. Intended receivers of forward passes who fail to catch the pass are considered to be in a defenseless position immediately after the pass is missed. If the pass is caught, all of these restrictions are off, unless in the opinion of the covering official, something unsportsmanlike occurs. In your play, the pass was missed by the tight end and he was unnecessarily hit by the defender. The announcement by the referee was excellent. The microphone is used to explain situations so that the public can understand what happened and why.
Looks like he didn't watch the play either.
 

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And what about the hit by Glover on Warner just before the end of the 3rd quarter. If it had been one of our guys nailing Frerotte, he would have drawn a flag and a fine.
 

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To bring up an old thread, here's what former ref Jerry Markbreit said about the hit:
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune...76752.story?coll=cs-bears-asktheref-headlines
Looks like he didn't watch the play either.

I am guessing that he was thinking about the previous series in the Cards-Ravens game when Lewis lit up Bieneman on a pass that was totally uncatchable... that the referees never considered an illegal hit.. even though Lewis led with the helmet and hit Bieneman under the chin...with no ball in sight
 

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