Wilson needs accountability from Wilson

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Self-awareness is a key step in the healing process... :bang:


... What that specifically is, Wilson wasn’t hiding from it. “It’s always about coverage,” he said. “Always been that way my whole career. I will continue to work on it and work diligently on it so I can go out Sunday confident in myself.”
The Cardinals need their whole defense to play better, not that Wilson was going there. Wilson said he could only worry about himself at this point, which could be taken a couple of ways — not only self-reflection but also acknowledgment others have to also be accountable. But he intimated he must be first in the defensive improvement.
“It’s more on me than them,” Wilson said. “But I will get better.”

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2010/10/04/wilson-needs-accountability-from-wilson/
 

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maybe the coaches should stop putting AW in position to fail because he has shown over & over he can't cover guys 1 on 1. KC sure didn't let the only threat at receiver beat them to a pulp, they had 3 guys covering him many times.
 

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I think we may have to face the fact the AW has lost a step.

I still contend that we need to look at moving him to LB at this point in his career.
 

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It’s always about coverage,” he said. “Always been that way my whole career. I will continue to work on it and work diligently on it so I can go out Sunday confident in myself.”

Wilson should be put on the inactive list to teach him a lesson.
 

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There are barely any safeties who can cover good receiving TEs 1 on 1 in man coverage. Even Ben Patrick was having his way with Nick Collins in the playoffs last year. Wilson should be left in the short and intermediate zones or blitzing. His poor play IMO is indicative of how bad and unprepared Billy Davis is for every game.
 

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There are barely any safeties who can cover good receiving TEs 1 on 1 in man coverage. Even Ben Patrick was having his way with Nick Collins in the playoffs last year. Wilson should be left in the short and intermediate zones or blitzing. His poor play IMO is indicative of how bad and unprepared Billy Davis is for every game.

That is strange how a guy 6'2" 220-230 and runs a 4.5 can't cover a guy who weighs 260.

However you can't use the Green Bay v Arizona Wild Card game as an example because it was against the rules to cover any receiver that afternoon.
 

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That is strange how a guy 6'2" 220-230 and runs a 4.5 can't cover a guy who weighs 260.

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One guy is running forward and the other backward? Also, Gates knows where he is going and Wilson does not...
 

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Actually, i was laughing because I have never seen a prominent receiver, even worse being a TE, be so consistently wide open during a game. Throw in the fact that he is their only receiving threat makes it even worse.

In fact it almost seemed if the Cards gameplan was to not cover their #1 receiving threat and not block their best pass rushing threat, Phillips.
 

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Watching tape and examining the stats leading up to Sunday's game, even a cave man would come away with the conclusion that the primary objective of the Cardinal defense had to be "to contain Antonio Gates."

Each team presents a different set of defensive challenges (for example, in StL the first thing you do is stop Steven Jackson. With Atlanta, you have the dual responsibility of stopping their running game plus containing Roddy White. With Tennessee, you've got the two-headed monster of Vince Young and Chris Johnson).

If anything, the challenge with SD was simpler than most teams because (other than their rook, Matthews) they really don't have anyone who scares you very much other than Gates.

A-Dub's main strength is his explosiveness as a hitter and a blitzer - he is not - at least not at this stage of his career - your prototypical FS. Ideally, if you're going to make him Gates' bodyguard, Wilson should either be (a) given help or (b) be set up in such a way to keep all the action in front of him.

Instead, we kept seeing footage of #24 running after #85 (who had gotten by him) - probably because he bit on play fakes.

I put this at the feet of one William Davis who came up with a butt-ugly defensive game plan.
 

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One guy is running forward and the other backward? Also, Gates knows where he is going and Wilson does not...

So you are saying no defensive back can cover any WR? Come on you know better. CBs run with WRs almost as fast as they are in the same circumstances all the time.
 

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plus I've noticed he loses his footing alot

Yep as someone else said AW is only really effective now coming forward, if he has to move laterally or backpedal, he's a liability at this point.

He still makes big plays but he basically needs to be used like a LB, if you put him in coverage he's not going to succeed.
 

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Yep as someone else said AW is only really effective now coming forward, if he has to move laterally or backpedal, he's a liability at this point.

He still makes big plays but he basically needs to be used like a LB, if you put him in coverage he's not going to succeed.

Which is why their base package needs to be a nickel. Put in Rashad Johnson and let AW be a quasi-LB.
 

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So you are saying no defensive back can cover any WR? Come on you know better. CBs run with WRs almost as fast as they are in the same circumstances all the time.

I think what he is saying that offensive players have the advantage. I'll take my shots with Antonio Gates against ANYONE in the league single coverage. His combination of size, speed, strength, and athletic ability creates a mismatch against every defensive player in the league. Even Revis and Asomugha. One man is not enough to cover him. Period.
 

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Forgive my late rant. I was away from the computer yesterday and I am still angry about the game.

Wilson was putrid in that game. Sadly, I saw it coming a mile away. Anytime we face a legitimate pass-catching TE, you should go get that guy for your fantasy team.

AW is at his best when he is blowing up plays. He is not a finesse guy who can stay in a receiver's hip pocket. He is a bulldozer meant to cause confusion and damage. Until the Cards figure this out, we're in trouble. I mean, if you were an opposing offense, why would you pick on our decent CB tandem when you can go right after Wilson play after play?

On that note, I think the problem is with Davis. I really get the feeling that he goes into a game with a single plan. If it works, the D is great. If it doesn't, he never adjusts. At halftime, CKW said covering Gates 1-on-1 wasn't working. But did that change anything in the second half? I sure didn't notice if it did.

It's almost like our entire game is run from a script, on both sides of the ball, with no chance of deviation once the hitting starts.
 
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Forgive my late rant. I was away from the computer yesterday and I am still angry about the game.

Wilson was putrid in that game. Sadly, I saw it coming a mile away. Anytime we face a legitimate pass-catching TE, you should go get that guy for your fantasy team.

AW is at his best when he is blowing up plays. He is not a finesse guy who can stay in a receiver's hip pocket. He is a bulldozer meant to cause confusion and damage. Until the Cards figure this out, we're in trouble. I mean, if you were an opposing offense, why would you pick on our decent CB tandem when you can go right after Wilson play after play?

On that note, I think the problem is with Davis. I really get the feeling that he goes into a game with a single plan. If it works, the D is great. If it doesn't, he never adjusts. At halftime, CKW said covering Gates 1-on-1 wasn't working. But did that change anything in the second half? I sure didn't notice if it did.

It's almost like our entire game is run from a script, on both sides of the ball, with no chance of deviation once the hitting starts.

Good points, Crisper.

What was inexcusable were the half-hearted efforts Wilson made in coverage...he practically stood around and let Gates blow right by him and then didn't bust his tail to try to recover...even worse, then he looks around every time implying it was someone else's fault. Even if it was zone, there was no other man in his area and the rule of thumb is to play man-to-man with the receiver in your zone and if there is no one underneath you stay with that man until you can hand him off to a safety..

Sadly, Wilson, right now, is as much or more a part of the problem than the solution.

I agree with you Crisper that Davis has little clue as to how to maximize AW's talents...but that doesn't let AW off the hook when he's asked to give his all in coverage.

How many of you saw Davis repeatedly dropping Joey Porter into coverage? This is a joke. He's the one capable edge rusher on the roster...and quite frankly his efforts on the edge have been about as weak as AW's in coverage, if not weaker.

And then Porter calls his teammates out?

What tape is he watching of himself?

While I am at it...I would add that Bill Davis offers NOTHING on the sidelines in the way of passion or emotion...and Whiz is the same way, which makes them a poor pair...you need emotion guys, especially on defense, which players HAVE to play with emotion. How about Ron Rivera on the other side. he was dancing up and down the sidelines exhorting his players as if his pants were on fire.

The reality is...you take Merriman and English out of the SD defense (which they were this week) and the Chargers do not have more talent than the Cardinals on defense...and look at how they are coached and motivated. Night and day.
 
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The reality is...you take Merriman and English out of the SD defense (which they were this week) and the Chargers do not have more talent than the Cardinals on defense...and look at how they are coached and motivated. Night and day.


Mitch, the reality is that those Chargers played against our o-line, with DA and Hall at QB and no Breaston or Doucet...

Anyway - I think you made a great point about the passion void on our sidelines from Whiz and Davis... Hell, did you see Belicheck last night on the sidelines? He personally went to every player on the team during the end of the game, shook their hands and slapped their shoulder pads!
He wrote the book on being dispassionate, but he also knows when it's appropriate...
 

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Mitch, the reality is that those Chargers played against our o-line, with DA and Hall at QB and no Breaston or Doucet...

Anyway - I think you made a great point about the passion void on our sidelines from Whiz and Davis... Hell, did you see Belicheck last night on the sidelines? He personally went to every player on the team during the end of the game, shook their hands and slapped their shoulder pads!
He wrote the book on being dispassionate, but he also knows when it's appropriate...

Whis went to Davis and I assume it wasn't a pleasant conversation.
 
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