With James Conner Ailing, Cardinals Claim Running Back

[Ronin]

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[Chopper0080]

There are a few players in Denver I would ask about TBH. Javonte Williams. Pat Surtain. Those are two for sure.

 

[Chopper0080]

In 4 years in the NFL he averaged 2.8 yards for carry

He is not a good RB for sure.

 

[juza76]

He is not a good RB for sure.

Next week we gonna see
demercado
This Jones from the Saints
Ingram bothered with a neck injury and eventually 'the ace in the hole" Corey Clément

 

[Chopper0080]

Next week we gonna see
demercado
This Jones from the Saints
Ingram bothered with a neck injury and eventually 'the ace in the hole" Corey Clément

It is what it is. I don't mind it compared to some of my other complaints.

 

[PJ1]

A toss sweep with a faked end around action is a gimmick?

An inside zone run out of a trips formation is a gimmick?

Maybe I am misremembering his big plays but I am pretty sure that was it.

A toss sweep with a fake end around is a gimmick that gets him to space he has to have. Running anywhere that requires breaking a tackle will be problematic. He is not the answer as a second back to Conner.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

With Jordan McLaughlin and Perine in Denver, I would have made a call to the Broncos and see what Javonte Williams would cost. They might not or would want too much, but it would be worth a call.

They absolutely love Javonte here in the Denver area. It might cause a mini riot if he was traded.

 

[gmabel830]

There are a few players in Denver I would ask about TBH. Javonte Williams. Pat Surtain. Those are two for sure.

Both of those would be great gets if they are available - not just for now, but also the future since they are both still young.

 

[BritCard]

With Jordan McLaughlin and Perine in Denver, I would have made a call to the Broncos and see what Javonte Williams would cost. They might not or would want too much, but it would be worth a call.

Williams has been rough this year and he's always injured.

I'd phone the Eagles and offer them a late round pick swap for Rashaard Penny. He's been a healthy scratch every game. And he's on a cheap contract too.

He's been good when healthy. Very good sometimes.

Or we could embrace the suck because it's a dead season anyway. But I think Penny has future value if he does well.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Williams has been rough this year and he's always injured.

I'd phone the Eagles and offer them a late round pick swap for Rashaard Penny. He's been a healthy scratch every game. And he's on a cheap contract too.

He's been good when healthy. Very good sometimes.

Or we could embrace the suck because it's a dead season anyway. But I think Penny has future value if he does well.

That's what I'd do.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Williams has been rough this year and he's always injured.

I'd phone the Eagles and offer them a late round pick swap for Rashaard Penny. He's been a healthy scratch every game. And he's on a cheap contract too.

He's been good when healthy. Very good sometimes.

Or we could embrace the suck because it's a dead season anyway. But I think Penny has future value if he does well.

Gotta stop giving up assets and embrace the suck in a lost season, IMO.

 

[BritCard]

That's what I'd do.

Me too probably. Although I do think there is value in a late round pick swap for Penny. We obviously need more depth and RB anyway and while he's only on a 1 year deal it's worth having a look with a view to signing him long term. He's been a good RB.

 

[BritCard]

Gotta stop giving up assets and embrace the suck in a lost season, IMO.

Maybe, but swapping pick 174 for pick 195 isn't much.

 

[Chopper0080]

A toss sweep with a fake end around is a gimmick that gets him to space he has to have. Running anywhere that requires breaking a tackle will be problematic. He is not the answer as a second back to Conner.

With respect, you need to watch more football. Fake action is a staple with most offenses.

 

[Chopper0080]

Williams has been rough this year and he's always injured.

I'd phone the Eagles and offer them a late round pick swap for Rashaard Penny. He's been a healthy scratch every game. And he's on a cheap contract too.

He's been good when healthy. Very good sometimes.

Or we could embrace the suck because it's a dead season anyway. But I think Penny has future value if he does well.

Out of the two, only Javonte has a season where he received over 120 carries (203). And his 47 carries was still more than Penny's worst year. So I don't understand how you can use health as a negative for Williams but a non-factor for Penny when Williams has been healthier in his career.

Also, why would you trade for Penny who is on an expiring contract if you could trade for a player who is also under contract for 2024?

I get not wanting to trade for Williams, and that is ok. But some of your argument doesn't make sense.

 

[Dayman]

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[PJ1]

With respect, you need to watch more football. Fake action is a staple with most offenses.

If you truly believe Moore can be a backup RB to Conner it is you who needs to watch more football. Further you base this on two plays. We don’t agree.

 

[BritCard]

Out of the two, only Javonte has a season where he received over 120 carries (203). And his 47 carries was still more than Penny's worst year. So I don't understand how you can use health as a negative for Williams but a non-factor for Penny when Williams has been healthier in his career.

Also, why would you trade for Penny who is on an expiring contract if you could trade for a player who is also under contract for 2024?

I get not wanting to trade for Williams, and that is ok. But some of your argument doesn't make sense.

The argument is that Penny will cost a lot less than Williams and offers better value.

Williams would cost a 3rd or 4th. Penny would cost a low pick swap.

 

[Metcalf Rules]

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Such a bummer. He was having a such a good year. He also seems to be such a good guy. He seemed to have the intensity on offense that Gannon wants.

 

[slanidrac16]

We are not trading for anybody. Forget about it.

 

[Stout]

He’s a RB, so no one.

lol Glad someone here is good with him missing big chunks of every season.

 

[Stout]

Yeah. It is more of a matter of when and not if.

With JC moreso. This is getting laughable. Yeah, no, JC isn't injury prone. It's just 'cause he's a RB lol

 

[DVontel]

lol Glad someone here is good with him missing big chunks of every season.

Because we know these guys aren’t robots & play the most brutal position on the body in football. I just don’t understand the victory-lapping.

 

[Stout]

Because we know these guys aren’t robots & play the most brutal position on the body in football. I just don’t understand the victory-lapping.

I'm not victory lapping anything--I wish he wasn't injured. I wish he wasn't injury prone either. Pretending he isn't just because he's a RB is silly.

 

[DVontel]

I'm not victory lapping anything--I wish he wasn't injured. I wish he wasn't injury prone either. Pretending he isn't just because he's a RB is silly.

Kamara, CMC, Chubb, Barkley, etc, all have missed a considerable amount of time due to injury in recent years. Same goes for Barkley. Derrick Henry might be the lone outlier because he’s built like a damn lion & even he missed time a few years ago. Rookie sensation De’Von Achane will be on IR for the next 4 weeks, possibly longer.

Pretending that RBs don’t have the cruelest job in football & are more liable to injuries is even sillier. You have some unreal expectations of expecting these dudes to play 17 games year-after-year like this is a game of Madden where you can turn the injury setting off.