Wk 17-Arizona Cardinals @ Dallas Cowboys Pre Game Thread. 12/27/21-01/01/22

[dreamcastrocks]

I mean I guess that’s kind of the magical thinking I’m taking about?

No one expected us to lose to a 1-11-1 team so we’ll definitely hang with a good team? Okay sounds good.

This is EXACTLY the point. Nobody really knows what will happen. So why not have some optimism against a team we seemingly play well against? Some teams just have other teams numbers.

 

[kerouac9]

This is EXACTLY the point. Nobody really knows what will happen. So why not have some optimism against a team we seemingly play well against? Some teams just have other teams numbers.

Fine. Just admit to your magical thinking.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Fine. Just admit to your magical thinking.

Thanks for the debate. Enlightening.

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

I actually think we win. We tend to be a thorn in Dallas's side, and they are riding high off of last week.

 

[phillycard]

Did their play suffer as a result? Or did they leave the organization due to the fans? I mean that’s the premise being made here. That fans’ negativity somehow negatively impacts the product on the field.

I got ya Ouchie. I was speaking to the fact that players do pay attention to things being said in the media, sometimes to a fault. I can say the there were some players for the various 4 teams here that spoke of how much they hated the fans while hear, but I would agree that it's not a direct tie in to the on-field play.

 

[dscher]

I shouldn’t be surprised by the amount of magical thinking going on in this thread, but I am.

I see what you're doing here. It's scary sometimes, but never be afraid to believe....

 

[kerouac9]

Thanks for the debate. Enlightening.

Let me put it another way: if you’re the Cards’ staff, what needs to happen for us to win the game?

If it’s we force multiple turnovers and create none, that’s essentially magical thinking because you’re depending on your opponent to make unpredictable errors.

If both teams play their best game, who wins? I think it’s prolly Dallas close.

If both teams play their worst games, who wins? I’m guessing Dallas the other way because they can just settle for the run and we can’t stop it.

So we have to play our best game and Dallas has to play their worst game to win.

 

[SoonerLou]

This is EXACTLY the point. Nobody really knows what will happen. So why not have some optimism against a team we seemingly play well against? Some teams just have other teams numbers.

Majority here thought we'd get destroyed by the Rams in week 4.

All but punted on the Browns game as well.

So let em be negative. Means we're going to win.

This is a perfect setup for a Cowboys letdown game as well.

 

[DVontel]

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[Stout]

Sweet for the OTs, lol.

That didn't take long. Is your nickname broken record?

 

[SoonerLou]

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Im still trying to figure out why Keim needed him to be an ILB.

 

[BritCard]

Sweet for the OTs, lol.

I really don't get this wet dream some people have with Simmons at edge because he played a few snaps against future farmers in college.

Dallas would own the **** out of Simmons at edge. Every team would.

 

[Chopper0080]

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I am totally prepared for Vance not to have any other option than to play Collins at OLB and then have Collins break out and act like it was always the plan.

 

[Shane]

Let me put it another way: if you’re the Cards’ staff, what needs to happen for us to win the game?

If it’s we force multiple turnovers and create none, that’s essentially magical thinking because you’re depending on your opponent to make unpredictable errors.

If both teams play their best game, who wins? I think it’s prolly Dallas close.

If both teams play their worst games, who wins? I’m guessing Dallas the other way because they can just settle for the run and we can’t stop it.

So we have to play our best game and Dallas has to play their worst game to win.

Whet if we play good but not best and they play mediocre but not worst?

 

[Chopper0080]

Something I feel like I have stated since both were drafted. The most natural role for Simmons was base S and nickel ILB and the most natural role for Collins was a 3-4 SAM and then a move piece in nickel (between DE and LB).

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Whet if we play good but not best and they play mediocre but not worst?

I had to like this post, but what does it even mean? Are you speaking in riddles?

 

[BritCard]

Our ILB situation is weird.

I always thought Simmons was a safety and still think he should be.

I think Zaven can be good at ILB but said he might be more suited to OLB in the NFL with his size, speed and ability to drop into coverage.

 

[DVontel]

That didn't take long. Is your nickname broken record?

Just be truthful. Just like you were with Hicks’ bad play earlier this season, gotta do the same with Simmons

 

[DVontel]

I am totally prepared for Vance not to have any other option than to play Collins at OLB and then have Collins break out and act like it was always the plan.

Yup, lol.

At least he would be breaking out at the right time at least.

 

[Chopper0080]

and what is really irritating is that with Collins, you only really had Golden as a player in front of him who you can split reps with naturally.

 

[Chopper0080]

Yup, lol.

At least he would be breaking out at the right time at least.

as long as we get to the right place I guess. It just doesn't seem that tough to figure out with Simmons and Collins but we are screwing it up anyway.

 

[BritCard]

as long as we get to the right place I guess. It just doesn't seem that tough to figure out with Simmons and Collins but we are screwing it up anyway.

Zaven has a lot of great attributes to play ILB but those attributes are even greater at OLB. And it's a much more valuable position.

When we picked him I assumed it was for an edge role.

 

[SoonerLou]

I know Im probably wrong, but it sure seems like we're the only team that drafts guys in the 1st round to play the wrong (or not best suited) spot lol

 

[Russ Smith]

Getting hard to keep up how many guys out with Covid now? Hump is out, but we get Hudson back. Is Golden going to play?

 

[SoonerLou]

Getting hard to keep up how many guys out with Covid now? Hump is out, but we get Hudson back. Is Golden going to play?

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