Worst QB To Start In The Super Bowl

[NJCardFan]

Taking a page out fo Sissy Boy Floyd's book, here's a poll on who you all think was the worst QB to start in a Super Bowl. Here are your choices:

Darryl Lamonica, Raiders
Billy Kilmer, Redskins
Joe Kapp, Vikings
Craig Morton, Cowboys/Broncos
Vince Ferragamo, Rams
David Woodley, Dolphins
Jim McMahon, Bears
Tony Eason, Patriots
Stan Humphries, Chargers
Neil O'Donnell, Steelers
Chris Chandler, Falcons
Trent Dilfer, Ravens
Other(please specify)

I believe Craig Morton and Tony Eason have the distinction to be the only QB's to be benched during the game. But who fits the bill as the worst QB to start a Super Bowl?

 

[Phrazbit]

Rex Grossman!?

 

[NJCardFan]

Rex Grossman!?

That's where the 'other' comes in. I just didn't want a list 20 names long or I would have included Hostetler, Grossman, Collins, Brad Johnson, etc.

 

[Shane]

Jim McMahon shouldn't even be on the list

 

[juza76]

do u guys know who was the worst qb ever to start a playoff game?

 

[don7031]

^ Hard to imagine someone worst than Ryan Lindley who set a record for most passes to start a career without a touchdown.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Jim McMahon shouldn't even be on the list

Exactly...Not sure, but he may still hold the record for best winning % for a starting QB...Injuries were his downfall, not talent...Same with Stan Humpheries...That guy could sling it, but concussions got the best of him.

 

[NJCardFan]

McMahon benefited from a great offensive line and his team benefited from a great, nasty defense. Other than that he was mediocre to average at best. He has a career rating of 78.2. Humphries has a career rating a few points lower than McMahon.

 

[Ronin]

Rex Grossman has my vote.

 

[TRW]

I have to go with Grossman also.

Tony Eason was pretty bad too.

 

[TRW]

Jim McMahon shouldn't even be on the list

Truth.

 

[Shane]

McMahon benefited from a great offensive line and his team benefited from a great, nasty defense. Other than that he was mediocre to average at best. He has a career rating of 78.2. Humphries has a career rating a few points lower than McMahon.

By that logic this guy should be on your list career QB rating of 70.9

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTe00.htm

No way in hell Mcmahon should be on the list. NONE!

 

[Jetstream Green]

The list says the worst, but it does not really mean they are bad. Personally, I always thought Terry Bradshaw was a very average QB... surrounded by a stellar team and he was the epitome of a game manager

 

[NJCardFan]

The list says the worst, but it does not really mean they are bad. Personally, I always thought Terry Bradshaw was a very average QB... surrounded by a stellar team and he was the epitome of a game manager

Bradshaw wasn't a great QB by any stretch but being a 4 time SB winner gets you removed from any worst lists not to mention how money he was in those games. Jim McMahon was no better than Trent Dilfer IMO. He was very average and the only reason why the Bears ever won a Super Bowl was because of their defense. Hell, Steve Fuller was 4-1 that season and he had exactly 1 TD pass. McMahon had 15 TD's to 11 INT's in '85 and threw for zero TD's in the Super Bowl and 3 for the playoffs. Believe me, McMahon wasn't that good a QB.

 

[Big Deal]

What relevance does this thread have? Maybe if you had a bad QB in the game tomorrow we could stomach this poll, but seriously...

 

[NJCardFan]

What relevance does this thread have? Maybe if you had a bad QB in the game tomorrow we could stomach this poll, but seriously...

Here's an idea. How about if you don't like the thread you don't click on it. Because I don't recall any rule stating me having to clear subject matter with you when creating a thread.

 

[PACardsFan]

I've seen every SB, and by far the worst QB to have started a SB was David Woodley. If people on this board were old enough to know, then Woodley would get 100% of the vote.

 

[NJCardFan]

I've seen every SB, and by far the worst QB to have started a SB was David Woodley. If people on this board were old enough to know, then Woodley would get 100% of the vote.

That Dolphins team was another team known for their defense but that defense couldn't stop John Riggins but you're right, Woodley was simply horrid. 97 total yards in that game. Of course Tony Eason's 0 yards passing may be tough to beat.

 

[ajcardfan]

I've seen every SB, and by far the worst QB to have started a SB was David Woodley. If people on this board were old enough to know, then Woodley would get 100% of the vote.

Then you should remember how bad Joe Kapp was. Here are his career numbers:

His career completion percentage: 48.9%

His career TDs: 40 Career Ints: 64

Total yards: 5911 (averaging less than 1500 yards per season)

And, in case you can't tell, the one vote Kapp has is from me.

 

[PACardsFan]

That Dolphins team was another team known for their defense but that defense couldn't stop John Riggins but you're right, Woodley was simply horrid. 97 total yards in that game. Of course Tony Eason's 0 yards passing may be tough to beat.

I'm not even talking about their performance in the SB that they started in. I'm just talking their overall talent. Woodley wasn't even a legit regular season starter, let alone a SB starter. Even though they were below average, Dilfer & Eason were eons better than Woodley.

 

[moklerman]

Hate to be difficult but what do we mean by "worst"? I mean, are we talking about how they played during their career or just during the SB? Daryle Lamonica for example, isn't a name I'd include on a "worst" list. Kapp and Kilmer were both pretty good in their days too.

Ferragamo followed up his SB appearance by throwing for 30 TD's in 1980 but then never regained his form. So, career-wise he's debatable but at the time of the SB, he wasn't a bad QB at all.

My Vote is for Neil O'Donnell though. All he had to do was not F it up for the Steelers. Woodley may have been bad but he was a rookie and asked to make plays that were above his ability. Same thing with Eason. Grogan was hurt and NE was just so outmatched there wasn't much Eason could have done.

O'Donnell had a chance to win it all by just not turning the ball over and blew it all in the worst way. Twice.

 

[ajcardfan]

I'm not even talking about their performance in the SB that they started in. I'm just talking their overall talent. Woodley wasn't even a legit regular season starter, let alone a SB starter. Even though they were below average, Dilfer & Eason were eons better than Woodley.

Yeah, but he was a better passer than Joe Kapp. Kapp was terrible, that awesome Purple People Eaters defense was the unit that carried those teams.

As for his Super Bowl against the Chiefs: 16/25 183 yards and 2 INTs. He also ran twice for 9 yards.

 

[PACardsFan]

Then you should remember how bad Joe Kapp was. Here are his career numbers:

His career completion percentage: 48.9%

His career TDs: 40 Career Ints: 64

Total yards: 5911 (averaging less than 1500 yards per season)

And, in case you can't tell, the one vote Kapp has is from me.

Did you ever watch Kapp play? That was an entirely different era, so you can't look at just stats. Joe Kapp was a winner in every sense of the word. When Bud Grant came over from the CFL to coach the Vikings, he brought Kapp along with him. Kapp managed a game very well & literally ran over linebackers when the team needed a big play. Kapp wasn't great by any means, but he WAS a winner & monster leader.

 

[ajcardfan]

Did you ever watch Kapp play? That was an entirely different era, so you can't look at just stats. Joe Kapp was a winner in every sense of the word. When Bud Grant came over from the CFL to coach the Vikings, he brought Kapp along with him. Kapp managed a game very well & literally ran over linebackers when the team needed a big play. Kapp wasn't great by any means, but he WAS a winner & monster leader.

Yes, he was a great competitor. But.the year after he led the Vikings to the Super Bowl: 1-9 record, 44% completion percentage, 1104 yards, 3 TDs and 17 interceptions. Even in those days, those numbers are just miserable. And, his career rushing numbers are not fancy either: 611 yards, 5 TDs and 9 fumbles. That surprised me, as I also remember him as a runner instead of a passer.

And yes, I saw him play. That's why I said he was the worst QB to play in the Super Bowl.

 

[PACardsFan]

Yes, he was a great competitor. But.the year after he led the Vikings to the Super Bowl: 1-9 record, 44% completion percentage, 1104 yards, 3 TDs and 17 interceptions. Even in those days, those numbers are just miserable. And, his career rushing numbers are not fancy either: 611 yards, 5 TDs and 9 fumbles. That surprised me, as I also remember him as a runner instead of a passer.

And yes, I saw him play. That's why I said he was the worst QB to play in the Super Bowl.

The year after he took the Vkings to the SB, he was a free agent & signed with the woeful Boston Patriots. He also played that year with a badly injured knee that would sideline any QB both then & now. He felt obligated to earn his contract, so he was HEAVILY taped up & lost all ability to move. The Patriots were so bad, that they kept him out there to just put fannies in the seats.

Joe Kapp played in 2 Grey Cups, winning one of them. He spent his 1st 8 years in the CFL. He is in the CFL Hall of Fame. He was once traded for 4 players. When he came over to the Vikings, they had never even played in a playoff game. In his 2nd season there (1968)he led the Vikings to the playoffs. In 69 he threw 7 touchdowns against the defending NFL Champion Baltimore Colts. By now, he was an aged QB, whose knees were shot. Now please tell me what David Woodley ever accomplished to be considered a better QB than Kapp???