Would you guys be happy if the Cards pick Cutler?

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Hell yes.

See Wally's comments above. They mirror my thoughts.:thud:

Although, the to this is if someone unexpected falls out of the top-9 (Leinart, Hawk, Ferguson, etc....maybe Davis).
 

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not happy at all....all signs point to the playoffs with improved line play on both sides of the ball..taking nothing away from him as he might turn out to be a fine qb down the line...but there will be "another cutler" next year or the year after...let's go for it now...at least to make the playoffs...pick up a martin, maddox. collins as a backup now and find guys who can strap it on right now and play..PLEASE.
 

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wallyburger said:
There are good reasons QBs go in the 3rd or 4th round. Most of which aren't good.

Also doesn't appear to be a good idea to take the third QB selected either:

Perry Klein 1994
Todd Collins
Jeff Lewis
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Batch
Akili Smith
Chris Redman
Quincy Carter
Pat Ramsey
Kyle Boller
Ben Roethlisberger
Jason Campbell
 

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I would be okay with him..However I would not be jumping up and down at Jacksons this saturday. Buy the way Warner will not be jumping up and down as well.

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It would be a very mixed feeling for me....I wouldn't explode into a horrible ball of fire if he was our selection, but I won't be jumping up and down for joy ether...I like his arm strength and gamer attitude, but his footwork and mechanics are going to need work...But overall we could do worse.
Like he said.
 

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JeffGollin said:
It would be a very mixed feeling for me....I wouldn't explode into a horrible ball of fire if he was our selection, but I won't be jumping up and down for joy ether...I like his arm strength and gamer attitude, but his footwork and mechanics are going to need work...But overall we could do worse.
Like he said.

Who said?

No offense but some of you guys need to use the quote function.
 

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Zona90 said:
I think the guy is going to be a very good quarterback. Anyone who can win at Vanderbilt has to have some talent.

By the way, a guy at work thinks Cutler is going to be another Kelly Stoufer. Do you guys think that?

I would.
 

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HeavyB3 said:
No, he is a reach at 10. He's a good QB, but we can get a better player that will be ready to play this year at 10. Cutler has been described by those who are less than huge fans of his as a good QB who caves under a lot of pressure. If things are going his way, he plays well. If things start to fall apart, he starts to make bad decisions. If we had the 15th-20th pick and he was there, I say take him, but there is better bang for the buck. If the Cardinals really want him, they could probably trade down to 14 and still get him.

I think there is a better chance that Young will be there than Cutler. Many services now have Cutler ahead of Young.
 

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Chris_Sanders said:
I will support which ever player the Cardinals pick at 10 until such time that a player gives me reason on the field not to. I call this the Calvin Pace effect.

I will try to avoid preset judgements, which will only taint my opinions while watching said player play. I call this the McCown effect.

I understand that few rookies have the kind of impact that fans expect and I realize that it takes a few years to see how worthwhile a draft pick is, regardless of position. I call this the Darwin Walker effect.

I also don't feel that a subscription to Scouts Inc, a couple draft magazines, and watching a handful of college games makes me more knowledgeable than the team scouts, who have been very successful as of late. I call this the arizonasportsfans effect.

I will do is have a few beers enjoy the draft.


Chris: One of the more astute post I have seen in a log time. Kudos.
 

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john h said:
I think there is a better chance that Young will be there than Cutler. Many services now have Cutler ahead of Young.

Young will be gone if Crazy Al in Oakland is still alive.
 

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AZ Shocker said:
I'd rather get Young, the Tight-end Davis, Simms or Williams.
If those 4 are gone, I hope we get Bush, Leinhart, Justice or Ferguson.

If we get Cultler, we got the 10th best player in the draft. I'm hoping somebody before us screws up. :D

Shocker is surely the correct name for you if you think we can get Bush, Leinhart or Ferguson. These three will be in the top 5. I do like the thought however.
 

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seesred said:
I would be okay with him..However I would not be jumping up and down at Jacksons this saturday. Buy the way Warner will not be jumping up and down as well.

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warner would be jumping up and down...but for a different reason!!
 

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I would live with the Cutler pick but I think there is a better pick to be had at #10. Cutler may be a good Qb down the line...but I would rather have immediate help to get to the playoffs this year.
 

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Duckjake said:
Also doesn't appear to be a good idea to take the third QB selected either:

Perry Klein 1994
Todd Collins
Jeff Lewis
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Batch
Akili Smith
Chris Redman
Quincy Carter
Pat Ramsey
Kyle Boller
Ben Roethlisberger
Jason Campbell

Well, to start with, the jury is definitely still out on Ramsey, Boller, and Campbell especially. And do you seriously want to use Roethlisberger as a reason to SUPPORT your argument? Does nothing but contradict you, so you should have left him off.

Second of all, what kind of logic is that? 'Well, it seems like the third QB taken rarely pans out, so we'd better not take the third QB?' Makes zero sense.
 

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While I love the idea of taking a QB early, I just wonder if this is the year to do it. Cutler seems like he's a huge risk. He sounds a lot to me like Kyle Boller; lots of talent, amazing arm strength, but completely unproven in pressure situations. Boller's not a very good pro QB IMO, or at least not one I'd see leading a team anywhere.

Maybe he's not the best person to compare Cutler to, and I've admittedly never seen Cutler play so maybe that's unfair of me, but I just have that hunch about him, that's all.
 

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I would be pretty upset. Cutler seems to me like a work out superstar. 10 is too high for him- if we somehow traded down, got another veteran player from another team and picked up Cutler, I would be happy with that. I say we address a different need and pick up Sam Keller next year!
 

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While I love the idea of taking a QB early, I just wonder if this is the year to do it. Cutler seems like he's a huge risk. He sounds a lot to me like Kyle Boller; lots of talent, amazing arm strength, but completely unproven in pressure situations. Boller's not a very good pro QB IMO, or at least not one I'd see leading a team anywhere.

I am definitely using some bias on this one. Jay Cutler played in the SEC, arguably , the toughest conference in college ball. Defensively, week after week, he had to play against damned good defenses without many weapons on his side. He did so with success. I don't think any rookie QB is ready for NFL defense pressure, but I suspect he is as well or better equipped than the rest. Young and Leinart played in " no defense " Conferences and don't get the same rap.

Boller came from that PAC 10 , can't spell defense, conference , and ( sorry Russ ) played in the gimmick offense. Last year Araon Rogers went from top QB status to # 24 pick in the draft coming out of that system, and I suspect Boller's failure might have put some slant on that.

Jay Cutler reminds me of Joe " Willie" Namath.

P.S. My wish list has Vernon Davis at the top. Then Cutler.
 

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NO!!!!!!!!!! Absolute waste of pick we can get a GOOD player at #10, seriously whats with all the love for Cutler what the hell has he ever done? Would rather have Justice or Fergy or someone that can play now, shoot even be okay with Young at least he has a huge upside. Just think all this Cutler love is little to late for me just a workout guy did not hear much about him the past few years??? Always guys every year workout well and shoot up and then do squat in the pros.
 

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My realistic wish list goes like this:

Davis
Cutler
Young
Huff
Justice

I agree with Wally that Cutler is better prepared for the NFL as he played in the conference that has the most speed defensivly (although i would not say Cal is a gimmick offense and there is SOME defense played in the Pac-10. Cal is a product of good coaching and look to Tucson in '05 for good defense. Come week two, LSU won't know what hit em:D ) and he played behind a line that had no right to be blocking Conference USA teams let alone SEC.

I think Jaws put it best when he was giving his analysis. He said he watched alot of film and that Cutler has played in NFL conditions due to the bodies flying around him at warp speed and having to fit the ball into tight spaces because his WR's got very little seperation. I was intrigued by Cutler's physical tools and his "moxie" that I had heard about, but when i heard MAJOR film watchers such as Jaws, Mayock, and Mort back him, I was even more intrigued. Mortensen said Matt Jones would turn out to be the best WR way before anyone started jumping on that band wagon, and while he didnt blow up like Q did his rookie season, I saw enough to know that eventually Mort will be right.

I am not going solely by these guys. From what I have seen his release is VERY quick and he has a gun for an arm. Those are important in the NFL. His accuracy is also good because of the lack of seperation he would routinely not get. Footwork can be worked on and he was running for his life half the time so thats understandable.

My biggest concern is his attitude. I'm worried he will force things because thats whet he is used to and that he maybe to cocky, where it comes across as petulant. Ryan Leaf re deux scares the hell out of me. But form what i can tell, he seems smart and if Denny shows faith in him, I will be even more validated in my faith.

So Yes I would be happy with this pick.

As a sidebar can we stop bringing up all these non sensical "trends" of QB's and their success in the first round and QB's taken in the sixth round. The freaking round has nothing to do with it. The players talent and the talent evaluation are what cause players to rise and fall. You can have a QB bust list in the first round and a QB star list in the first round. And you can do that for every round. It has to do with each individual player and what the team sees in him. Even if there had never been a successful QB taken in the first round, would that make Cutler any less of a player? I don't think so........
 

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I would be happy, but with that riding on what happens in later rounds. I think a lot of people look at each pick in isolation. I don't mind overpaying at #10 as much to address a position that is most likely rectified through the draft--if the position we "missed" can be addressed in later rounds and free agency.

Cutler could end up being a steal at #10 a la Big Ben. But he won't be a Top 3 bust, which is a lot more expensive.
 

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john h said:
Shocker is surely the correct name for you if you think we can get Bush, Leinhart or Ferguson. These three will be in the top 5. I do like the thought however.
That's why I'm hoping somebody who picks before us screws up. Not likely, but you never know...:)
Cutler would be just an okay pick in my opinion. Probably a lot like Navarro really. Just another college qb trying to make it in the the NFL. I'm leaning towards getting someone who can help us almost immediately.
Please Lord let one of the Top-8 be still available when we pick! :grabs:
 

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AZ Shocker said:
That's why I'm hoping somebody who picks before us screws up. Not likely, but you never know...:)
Cutler would be just an okay pick in my opinion. Probably a lot like Navarro really. Just another college qb trying to make it in the the NFL. I'm leaning towards getting someone who can help us almost immediately.
Please Lord let one of the Top-8 be still available when we pick! :grabs:

Is he like Bizarro Navarre?? Cool......:bhiich:
 

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