Trading Budda, but keeping a very mediocre RB & a passed-his-prime TE is certainly a take.
I'm really not at all surprised that you don't understand the difference.
Trading Budda, but keeping a very mediocre RB & a passed-his-prime TE is certainly a take.
Me too, likely.I would probably do it for the 2nd/3rd/5th comp that Brit suggested.
SameWould I, yes.
Would I feel good about it, no.
Or we could turn Budda into two scrubs and cap space. That's just as likely.
Budda is an interesting case. I can go either way. If we can get a haul, sure. Otherwise, probably not worth it. For a late or mid-round pick only? I doubt I'd do that.
We agreed!This is the sensible take.
We agreed!
Are gone the days where Brit turned the other cheek))I'm really not at all surprised that you don't understand the difference.
To be fair, Jamal Adams was 25 when he was traded and on a rookie deal. That contract was widely derided at the time it was made and hasn't paid off outside of a 9.5 sack first season with Seattle.What would you expect a 27 year old 3x All Pro and 5x Pro Bowl safety to bring?
Minimum in my mind would be a 2nd, 3rd and 5th.
Look at the Adams and Fitzpatrick trades and both those guys were getting paid on top of the trade value.
So why did 3 others agree with me?I'm really not at all surprised that you don't understand the difference.
And yet a lot of people want to trade D-Hop, you included right?To be fair, Jamal Adams was 25 when he was traded and on a rookie deal. That contract was widely derided at the time it was made and hasn't paid off outside of a 9.5 sack first season with Seattle.
Minkah Fitzpatrick was traded in his second season (age 23) in Miami after a first year as a First-team All Pro and on a rookie deal.
Budda hasn't been a first-team All Pro player in two years. The first year was as a special teams player.
Obviously neither Thompson nor Simmons will replace Baker outside of taking his space on the field. You don't get better trading your best players.
I treat trading D-Hop as a fait accompli, so I haven't thought much about it.And yet a lot of people want to trade D-Hop, you included right?
Guess team work against the British manSo why did 3 others agree with me?
So why did 3 others agree with me?
I’ve been agreeing with you a lot lately lol but don’t tell anyone.We agreed!
Guess team work against the British man
1000% I’d rather keep him even if it’s the wrong long term decision.I treat trading D-Hop as a fait accompli, so I haven't thought much about it.
I've said multiple times that a team that has D-Hop on it will be more entertaining to watch than one without. I think if you get a second-round pick for Hop or better, it's probably worth trading him, because he'll be in decline by the time the Cards are likely to be in a position to compete. But the entertainment value of DHop is greater to me than the prospective value of a mid-3rd round pick or whatever.
Budda or Baker??I would not.... I named my dog after him
I really think the reason that our corner play didn't look worse the past two years is because Budda and Thompson were back there covering up a lot of mistakes.I brought up trading Baker last year... the guy has heart but he really isnt a difference maker on the field. he was billed as Honey Badger lite when we drafted him but never has shown the ability to be a truly disruptive force in the secondary.
But I wouldnt trade him now. It seems coach Peewee is trying to build a team instead of a collection of players. When you focus on team play you need a guy or three like Baker. Those dudes who can snap their neck at the end of the 2nd quarter only to show up after halftime and continue to deliver hits and play hard. That guy who is not only an emotional leader but also demonstrates his passion at every practice and on every snap.
with a group of young guys and over achievers... Baker has more value in the locker room than he does on the field. IMO thats why we heard his name two dozen times when the new staff was giving their press conferences.
thats probably true. VJ's scheme seemed to limit lots of player agency. Maybe the new defense will give Baker more opportunities to make impactI really think the reason that our corner play didn't look worse the past two years is because Budda and Thompson were back there covering up a lot of mistakes.
If we're going to pull more Jenga blocks from the tower, it's even more important to put them back there.
last year's best players:Trade every player of value and start from scratch..