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If the Cards bring back Palmer and BA, they should invest heavily at WR in free agency. Robinson would be my #1 choice and Landry 1A. I'd sign them both then bring back John Brown to go with Fitz and Chad Williams.

Draftwise, I like Simmie Cobbs from Indiana in round 2-3.
 

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I like Eric Decker. He is very similar to Fitz in size and toughness. He wouldn't cost that much. He is 30 yrs old 6'3" 212 lbs.
 

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If the Cards bring back Palmer and BA, they should invest heavily at WR in free agency. Robinson would be my #1 choice and Landry 1A. I'd sign them both then bring back John Brown to go with Fitz and Chad Williams.

Draftwise, I like Simmie Cobbs from Indiana in round 2-3.

Was reading yesterday that the Cardinals and John Brown have pretty much agreed to move on. Brown has been disgruntled with the coaches for quite some time...which was exacerbated in the pre-season when BA called out the WR group and insinuated that the injured WRs should be practicing...which the caused John Brown to say that he would return to field "when I am ready."

The main reason why he is still on the roster is the compensatory pick consideration should Brown ink a good contract elsewhere.

This once again does not speak well for the coaches. Michael Floyd last year. John Brown this year. J.J. Nelson has regressed to the point where he is a liability on the field. Floyd and Brown were 1st and 3rd round picks respectively. In Brown's case, his sickle cell anemia was and continues to be a major setback, but other NFL players have been able to cope with the disease and still play at a fairly high level. But, clearly, BA's and his staff's philosophy of f-bomb you now, hug you later is not working with players like Michael Floyd, John Brown and J.J. Nelson.
 

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Since we won't be in the range to draft a top tier QB anyway and nothing about Keim screams to me that he is selling the farm for the 1st or 2nd overall pick, I'm okay with drafting a potential game changing WR like Ridley or Sutton right around the 10th overall pick. Fitzgerald isn't playing forever, hence maybe he is calling it quits after this season, especially if we get a new HC with a new scheme. I'd rather find a stud WR in the draft, than throwing big money at FA WRs which hardly ever works out.
 

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Was reading yesterday that the Cardinals and John Brown have pretty much agreed to move on. Brown has been disgruntled with the coaches for quite some time...which was exacerbated in the pre-season when BA called out the WR group and insinuated that the injured WRs should be practicing...which the caused John Brown to say that he would return to field "when I am ready."

The main reason why he is still on the roster is the compensatory pick consideration should Brown ink a good contract elsewhere.

This once again does not speak well for the coaches. Michael Floyd last year. John Brown this year. J.J. Nelson has regressed to the point where he is a liability on the field. Floyd and Brown were 1st and 3rd round picks respectively. In Brown's case, his sickle cell anemia was and continues to be a major setback, but other NFL players have been able to cope with the disease and still play at a fairly high level. But, clearly, BA's and his staff's philosophy of f-bomb you now, hug you later is not working with players like Michael Floyd, John Brown and J.J. Nelson.
I agree. I posted earlier that the Cards should also part ways with their WR coach. Not one WR, other than Jaron Brown, who is serviceable at best, has improved. In fact, as you said, Brown, Floyd, and JJ have all regressed under Darryl Drake.
 

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Floyd was a drunk, JB got sick & had a cyst pinching a nerve on his back which affected his strength, & JJ Nelson is JJ Nelson.

It seems with the Cardinals there are always excuses. When so many at a position group underperform as is the case with the WRs and OL and ILB and STs, it can't just be the players.
 

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I think there is more there with John Brown than the sickle cell trait. I wouldnt be surprised if he is out of football next year. The Cardinals arent the only team in the NFL that values week to week availability -- and the film on John when he does play over the last two years isnt good. He may get get a low dollar prove it contract from someone, but not much more.
 

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I’d draft Anthony Miller in the 2nd round & Darren Carrington in the 4th.
 

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Landry would be nice. Hes a move the chains kind of a guy.

I brought up a name in another post which I think relates to Landry well and that is Frank Sanders, a solid starting WR who can be a playmaker because he knows his responsibilities and is clutch... like Fitz he brings dependability to the position
 

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Pryor has one of the highest drop %'s in the league, so no thanks. Robinson and Decker would be good fits, and shouldn't command huge money. Packers will definitely be keeping Adams.
 

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I like Pryor on a cheap contract to compete to be a #2 or #3, along with a guy like Landry/Adams. That's enough for us to get by when Larry finally retires and hopefully have developed a rookie WR to move into that #3 role depending on how those guys develop and play.
 

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It seems with the Cardinals there are always excuses. When so many at a position group underperform as is the case with the WRs and OL and ILB and STs, it can't just be the players.


I'll buy that with Nelson but you can't blame the coaches for Floyd or John Brown. Floyd has an alcohol problem, I blasted the pick at the time because of his history in college and before and even I didn't expect his career to go the way it did, can't fault BA there he inherited that problem and since Floyd has moved on he's been a virtual non factor.

John Brown has a serious medical issue and if you go back and read the scouting reports on him in college it's apparent it existed even then, they just hadn't found it yet. he had a history of muscle pulls and crampiing in college, it was also there early in his Cards career. But since it got signficantly worse and we found out about the sickle cell issue, it's been apparent he's just not the same guy. That's not coaching it's just a guy whose body isn't letting him play at a high level anymore.

With Nelson I don't know what to think, I'm willing to put some blame on the coaches there, he's so inconsistent, you write him off and he suddenly has a string of games with TD catches, then you think he's turned the corner and he disappears for weeks at a time. Just seems like a guy who was being asked to do too much this year given his actual abilities and got exposed. I'd still like to keep him but he's a 3rd or 4th Wr he's been playing too much.

It also seems like losing Palmer hurt him more than any of the other Wr's.
 

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I agree with @Russ Smith, there are a lot of valid reasons, not excuses, that the WRs have fallen off a cliff. Nelson should never be a #2, and at best, a #3. He's a home run threat and not much more due to his size. I think he's given us plenty of value for where we drafted him, but we can't rely on him as much as we have been.

Brown is just a health issue and we can't coach that up.

Floyd was just a mess and you couldn't have anticipated how much he'd mess things up in his own life.
 

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If it's Palmer and BA the guy is Terrell Pryor.
No, no, and NO to Pryor. That is unless you want a POS person who believes he entitled to everything.

I started to change my thinking on him last year(I guess producing will do that) but he has returned to his old ways. No way should the Cards sign him.
 

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I'll buy that with Nelson but you can't blame the coaches for Floyd or John Brown. Floyd has an alcohol problem, I blasted the pick at the time because of his history in college and before and even I didn't expect his career to go the way it did, can't fault BA there he inherited that problem and since Floyd has moved on he's been a virtual non factor.

John Brown has a serious medical issue and if you go back and read the scouting reports on him in college it's apparent it existed even then, they just hadn't found it yet. he had a history of muscle pulls and crampiing in college, it was also there early in his Cards career. But since it got signficantly worse and we found out about the sickle cell issue, it's been apparent he's just not the same guy. That's not coaching it's just a guy whose body isn't letting him play at a high level anymore.

With Nelson I don't know what to think, I'm willing to put some blame on the coaches there, he's so inconsistent, you write him off and he suddenly has a string of games with TD catches, then you think he's turned the corner and he disappears for weeks at a time. Just seems like a guy who was being asked to do too much this year given his actual abilities and got exposed. I'd still like to keep him but he's a 3rd or 4th Wr he's been playing too much.

It also seems like losing Palmer hurt him more than any of the other Wr's.

Nelson is easy for me, it's his lack of physical build which inhibits him from making some of those catches. Any play which puts those limitations at the forefront where he has to fight to move forward in a congested space he is not able to catch the ball or if he feels the catch presents him with getting clocked. I have noticed for the most part that a jump ball in open space with one guy, a fade in the endzone and like plays where confrontational physicality is not involved, he tends to do better. Cannot blame the guy with his size and he might be the most underweight player in the NFL right now. He has value though on limited plays to take the top off
 

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In the draft James Washington is a #1 receiver that would really help free up Fitz, only problem is he'll be a top 15 pick and we still have QB issues...
 

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If we remain at #10, I'm in the trade down group for Ridley. Pick up another 2nd and hope someone like Allen or Rudolph drops. This team needs more than a QBOF that won't play for a couple years. Give me Ridley, QBOF and either a CB or OL in the first two rounds to start the rebuild. Spend FA money on somebody like DeMarcus Lawrence and Bryan Bulaga (if released).
 

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If the Cards bring back Palmer and BA, they should invest heavily at WR in free agency. Robinson would be my #1 choice and Landry 1A. I'd sign them both then bring back John Brown to go with Fitz and Chad Williams.

Draftwise, I like Simmie Cobbs from Indiana in round 2-3.

I doubt John Brown will be back and I see very little in Chad Williams.
 
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