WR or TE?

[WildBB]

2nd round will offer a plethora of talent.

It's likely that one of Fant or Hockensen will be available. Along with a very good WR. And a likely 1st rd. OL talent that slipped. Good problem to figure out.

But both Fant And Hockensen have a real good chance to be very special players.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/3/2/18247009/2019-nfl-combine-results-winners-losers

 

[iLLmatiC]

2nd round will offer a plethora of talent.

It's likely that one of Fant or Hockensen will be available. Along with a very good WR. And a likely 1st rd. OL talent that slipped. Good problem to figure out.

But both Fant And Hockensen have a real good chance to be very special players.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/3/2/18247009/2019-nfl-combine-results-winners-losers

I want Fant or Hockensen or Harry.

 

[football karma]

I like Hockensen the best, as his combo of blocking and receiving lets an offense show run oriented sets, but can run 3 receiver patterns out of it

i doubt he makes it to 33

 

[TheCardFan]

I like Hockensen the best, as his combo of blocking and receiving lets an offense show run oriented sets, but can run 3 receiver patterns out of it

i doubt he makes it to 33

Agreed on not making it to #33 but think about this...he is slightly less athletic but slightly a better blocker than Kittle (who went in 5th rd).

You can find solid TE's later in the draft.

I would have to really consider Fant if he fell to #33 but there will be an OT and WR that falls as well.

 

[BW52]

At 33 Cards better be able to pick WR or TE or OLine guy that makes a early impact.Plenty of talented guys to choose from in those 3 groups.It would be hard to screw up with the options available.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Cant we get a serviceable TE in FA, or later in the draft? Or use RSJ?

We're good at drafting WRs, but terrible at drafting TEs. Let's stick to our strengths in this upcoming draft.

 

[JeffGollin]

2nd round will offer a plethora of talent.

It's likely that one of Fant or Hockensen will be available. Along with a very good WR. And a likely 1st rd. OL talent that slipped. Good problem to figure out.

But both Fant And Hockensen have a real good chance to be very special players.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/3/2/18247009/2019-nfl-combine-results-winners-losers

5 bonus points for using the term: "plethora."

 

[Finito]

5 bonus points for using the term: "plethora."

Would you say I have a plethora of piñatas?

 

[BW52]

Cant we get a serviceable TE in FA, or later in the draft? Or use RSJ?

We're good at drafting WRs, but terrible at drafting TEs. Let's stick to our strengths in this upcoming draft.

There are plenty of TEs and WRs to pick from in the draft.Why overpay in Free agency?With 11 draft picks Cards can take a chance or two later in the draft in they feel like it.
Right now the TEs on the roster are
Charles Clay-was a recent FA signing
Jermaine Gresham- yuck,blah,overpaid contract albatross
Ricky Seals-Jones-yawn,next block will be his first.
Darrell Daniels-unknown factor,was a late season waiver pickup.

Plenty of TE options in draft
I like
TJ Hockenson
Isaac Nauta

 

[JeffGollin]

Assume thread-title asks the question: "Do we need a TE more than a WR?

Logical answer - It depends what KK feels he needs on offense and how to fill those needs -plus which attributes various TE or WR prospects do or do not possess.

Does the modified Air Raid system require a blocking TE more than it does a tall WR with velcro hands, a big catching radius but questionable blocking talent? What would be the impact from either strategy on the running? passing attack?

Somewhere on a computer or white-board at Cardinal Hq, there has to be a depth chart that shows position-needs paired with the attributes top prospects possess. Then KK and SK figure to use common sense to isolate (1) holes in the needs tapestry and (2) how best fill them.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

There are plenty of TEs and WRs to pick from in the draft.Why overpay in Free agency?With 11 draft picks Cards can take a chance or two later in the draft in they feel like it.
Right now the TEs on the roster are
Charles Clay-was a recent FA signing
Jermaine Gresham- yuck,blah,overpaid contract albatross
Ricky Seals-Jones-yawn,next block will be his first.
Darrell Daniels-unknown factor,was a late season waiver pickup.

Plenty of TE options in draft
I like
TJ Hockenson
Isaac Nauta

That makes sense BW52, but could we at least wait until maybe the 4th round to use a pick on a TE? We just suck at drafting TEs man. Nicklas, Dray, Jefferson, Housler, Christian... all TEs drafted by the Cards in the last several years, all misses. Big time misses.

In which round is Nauta projected to go?

 

[BW52]

That makes sense BW52, but could we at least wait until maybe the 4th round to use a pick on a TE? We just suck at drafting TEs man. Nicklas, Dray, Jefferson, Housler, Christian... all TEs drafted by the Cards in the last several years, all misses. Big time misses.

In which round is Nauta projected to go?

I liked Niklas and I think injuries killed his career.he played okay when given a chance.Still was a letdown.As for Isaac Nauta TE from Georgia I think he is a round 4-5 guy.He is a football junkie,loves the game and is a hardnosed tough guy.Okay hands type with a mean streak willing to do the dirty work which Cards definitely need.

 

[HeHasRosen]

The fact of the matter is you only get one of the top tier talents at either position. So who do you take with the 2nd or 3rd rd picks? WR or TE? I would say WR early and take a TE in later rounds. Even though i think there is a bigger gap between the top and bottom of the draft for TE. In other words the WR pool maybe deeper than the TE pool in the draft.

Still ideally would like to trade back. Then maybe you go DL, WR, OL, TE with your first four picks. Still way to much time until the draft. Plus we have to see what positions are addressed in FA. Which I think will be the biggest factor in how we draft early this year.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I liked Niklas and I think injuries killed his career.he played okay when given a chance.Still was a letdown.As for Isaac Nauta TE from Georgia I think he is a round 4-5 guy.He is a football junkie,loves the game and is a hardnosed tough guy.Okay hands type with a mean streak willing to do the dirty work which Cards definitely need.

Nauta sounds pretty interesting, thanks.

 

[BW52]

The fact of the matter is you only get one of the top tier talents at either position. So who do you take with the 2nd or 3rd rd picks? WR or TE? I would say WR early and take a TE in later rounds. Even though i think there is a bigger gap between the top and bottom of the draft for TE. In other words the WR pool maybe deeper than the TE pool in the draft.

Still ideally would like to trade back. Then maybe you go DL, WR, OL, TE with your first four picks. Still way to much time until the draft. Plus we have to see what positions are addressed in FA. Which I think will be the biggest factor in how we draft early this year.

FA starts in a week I think so I wonder what SK has in mind?I think a veteran LB or two and maybe a veteran low cost WR.No telling what Cards have in mind or who they are thinking about.With the Alford,Clay and Brooks Reed signing earlier I wonder how active Sk will be...likely more veteran bargain hunting.I don`t expect a big FA splash signing.I think the draft does the heavy lifting this year.

 

[BW52]

Nauta sounds pretty interesting, thanks.

Chck out NFL.com draft prospects and combine info.Nice writeups PRO/CONS every player in draft.

 

[TheCardFan]

Nauta sounds pretty interesting, thanks.

I like Nauta as well but was disappointed in his combine...thought he would be more athletic. He was a 5 star TE recruit out of high school.

 

[HeHasRosen]

FA starts in a week I think so I wonder what SK has in mind?I think a veteran LB or two and maybe a veteran low cost WR.No telling what Cards have in mind or who they are thinking about.With the Alford,Clay and Brooks Reed signing earlier I wonder how active Sk will be...likely more veteran bargain hunting.I don`t expect a big FA splash signing.I think the draft does the heavy lifting this year.

Yes unfortunately I think you are right. I would really like 1 or 2 big splash signings. I think we need to try and sign 1 of the best OL or LB in FA. We need to do everything in our power to sure up this Oline. I would like Brown or James at OT. And I don't know if LB Mosley has been tagged yet but if not make a run at him as well. Kiem needs to treat this off season like his job depends on it imo

 

[oaken1]

I think 33 is a great spot to pick a TE . the depth at WR allows for good players to be there in the third and fourth rounds... but this draft is top heavy with TE's,...lots of first round talent guys

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I like Nauta as well but was disappointed in his combine...thought he would be more athletic. He was a 5 star TE recruit out of high school.

4.91 in the forty, 19 BP reps, and a vertical jump 28"

not exactly vernon davis like 4.38/42/42"

Vernon Davis man. 42 BP reps and ran a freaking sub 4.4 forty. That's crazy. No wonder he killed us for 10 years or whatever....

Maybe Nauta is worth a sixth rounder?

 

[overseascardfan]

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[Harry]

If that’s the only choice and considering the offense, I’d go WR.

 

[Chopper0080]

Top end TEs are so hard to find in today's game, I would take a TE. Honestly, I hope we come out of this draft with two. Such a good class. I have to put together a top 45 list, but so many good players to choose from at 33. WR class is good, but so deep I am good with taking one in the 4th or 5th round and I don't believe the drop off will be much.

 

[WildBB]

Assume thread-title asks the question: "Do we need a TE more than a WR?

Logical answer - It depends what KK feels he needs on offense and how to fill those needs -plus which attributes various TE or WR prospects do or do not possess.

Does the modified Air Raid system require a blocking TE more than it does a tall WR with velcro hands, a big catching radius but questionable blocking talent? What would be the impact from either strategy on the running? passing attack?

Somewhere on a computer or white-board at Cardinal Hq, there has to be a depth chart that shows position-needs paired with the attributes top prospects possess. Then KK and SK figure to use common sense to isolate (1) holes in the needs tapestry and (2) how best fill them.

True and true. Question is exploring the real benefits of adding one of the two potentially impactful TE's that have a chance to make it to our 33 pick. I could see both of them winding up as 1st round picks really. But, if one of them slides out of the top 32, and we have Harry or Samuel sitting there also, that's a tough call. I personally think effective WR's can be had later on, but how late? And OL is still a very high priority. Especially if we're keeping the #1 pick and using it on Bosa.
None of the TE's currently on the roster are a long term solution. I don't see Hockensen making it past NE, but if he's there he could check off both blocking and receiving boxes. The other thing is the TE class is deep, but again you can't wait too long to find a starter.

 

[DVontel]

Hockenson won`t even make it to 23 let alone 33. Maybe not even 13. His hype is through the roof right now.

Doubt Fant makes it to 33 either.

I want Irv Smith.