XBox 360 sync with LCD TV Problem.

[Darth Llama]

Hi Guys,

I searched like crazy trying to find someone with this issue, and it appears I'm the only one having this problem with my TV, this is the only place I can think of where someone might know the answer.

I have a Vizio VW47LF 47" LCD TV. I have the Cox DVR hooked up to HDMI port #1 and the XBox 360 hooked up to HDMI #2. The Cox box works flawlessly all the time. Never an issue with anything ever.

The XBox however will occasionally just drop all audio at apparently random times. I used to have the console hooked up via Component Video Cables and there was no issue. Now, when the sound cuts out, if I turn off the TV and turn it back on, I get a message on the screen that says "Synchronizing device..." and after a few seconds everything comes up back to normal.

So I guess the question is, do LCD's have some kind of setting I don't know about to sync them to a device like a gaming console? I have looked on TV as well as XBox forums, and I only found one other user having this issue, no one answered his thread. Normally, I would just say screw it and leave it component, but I use the XBox DVD Player to upscale my standard DVD's to 1080p and for some reason it can't upscale unless it's via DVI.

I have tried a different HDMI port as well, and so far no luck. I'm going to try swapping the cable, but I have used this cable before on my DVR and I know it's good. I'm just baffled here, I'll take any suggestion I can get. Is it possible that my TV just doesn't work with the console HDMI? Sometimes I can play for hours and it never happens, sometimes it takes minutes, there doesn't seem to be a pattern. It's happened on different games as well.

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[Linderbee]

dcr is out of town until Friday; not sure if he'd have any advice, anyway, but I'm not sure how much he'll be on asfn before then.

 

[Ryanwb]

How about going through a process of elimination... what happens when you put the XBOX on HDMI 1 and COX on HDMI 2?

Is there a firmware update your your TV? Mine had firmware update you deliver via a USB port on the front.

 

[puckhead]

How did you have the audio connected while using the component connection?

What is the xbox set to output for audio? Dolby digital or PCM?

Is their an audio receiver involved in any way?

Has this setup always done this or is it a new phenomenon?

 

[Darth Llama]

How did you have the audio connected while using the component connection?

What is the xbox set to output for audio? Dolby digital or PCM?

Is their an audio receiver involved in any way?

Has this setup always done this or is it a new phenomenon?

Not sure the answer you're looking for on the first question. I just used the cables that came with it and plugged them into the Component 1 on the back of my TV.

I believe Audio is on Dolby Digital, I have never changed it from the default. I'll check and make sure.

No Audio Receiver involved, I have an HDMI straight from the back of the XBox to the input on the TV.

It has always done this via HDMI.

I'll try changing from HDMI 2 to HDMI 1, I haven't tired that, but I did try it on HDMI 3 with the same result.

I never thought of looking for a firmware update, that's a good idea and I'll look into that tonight.

Thanks for all the help so far, if I make any progress, I'll let you guys know.

 

[BIGTONY]

NO OFFENSE it might be your tv.I heard of Vizio tv their good but known for having sound problems..Also try hooking everything component.If the hdmi are not 1.3 your going to have problems..Also what darth said firmware..Hdmi is good but not everything is apple to apple..I worked for Pacific Sales in Chandler Division of BestBuy..The theater room was changed all too component because hdmi has lots of problems still..

 

[Darth Llama]

NO OFFENSE it might be your tv.I heard of Vizio tv their good but known for having sound problems..Also try hooking everything component.If the hdmi are not 1.3 your going to have problems..Also what darth said firmware..Hdmi is good but not everything is apple to apple..I worked for Pacific Sales in Chandler Division of BestBuy..The theater room was changed all too component because hdmi has lots of problems still..

No offense taken, I don't work for Vizio.

Yeah, if worst comes to worst I can just put the console back on Component. The DVR works flawless on HDMI, but the XBox acts weird. It doesn't always do it, and it's not like it happens a lot. If I play for 4-5 hours it might happen once so it's not like it's THAT bad. Still, it can be annoying in multiplayer games when you have to stop for a second to turn your TV off and back on. Another wierd thing, the XBox will not boot up on HDMI unless the TV is on and HDMI 2 is selected. The green light on the XBox comes on and the console does nothing till the TV is turned on. It definitely seems like it needs to sync something.

The Audio is on Dolby Digital 5.1 right now. Should I change it to Dolby Digital Stero? I don't have a 5.1 system, it's just straight to the TV.

 

[BIGTONY]

The sound will only run the way its being formated.Like when you buy a dvd or blu ray.Blu Ray will always be 5.1(like the Sony Blu Ray Player I think its the Is350.Its 350 somethin..That blu ray will only be in 5.1.Then if you buy the 550 model it w ill be only 7.1)Its like when customers come to Bestbuy and are always complaining that they hate the Black on top of their movies(widescreen)Its the way the tv is being formated from where its coming from..Blu ray dvd From the source ..I think its your tv .I would still try all component.And 1 more thing most shows will only be 2.1 and old dvds.So your fine with dolby stereo..

 

[Darth Llama]

The sound will only run the way its being formated.Like when you buy a dvd or blu ray.Blu Ray will always be 5.1(like the Sony Blu Ray Player I think its the Is350.Its 350 somethin..That blu ray will only be in 5.1.Then if you buy the 550 model it w ill be only 7.1)Its like when customers come to Bestbuy and are always complaining that they hate the Black on top of their movies(widescreen)Its the way the tv is being formated from where its coming from..Blu ray dvd From the source ..I think its your tv .I would still try all component.And 1 more thing most shows will only be 2.1 and old dvds.So your fine with dolby stereo..

I know for sure that everything works fine Component, that's how I had it for a year and no issues. The only reason I even want the XBox on HDMI is so I can upscale my DVD's to 1080p, no other reason. If need be, I can skip that though, I don't watch many movies and I'm probably going to buy a blu-ray player soon anyway that will upscale anyway.

 

[BIGTONY]

www.highdefforum.com/index.php heres awesome website on hd everything.. There having lots of problem at vizio..Buy a Sony or Samsung www.consumeraffairs.com/home_electronics/vizio.html

 

[Darth Llama]

www.highdefforum.com/index.php heres awesome website on hd everything.. www.consumeraffairs.com/home_electronics/vizio.htm There having lots of problem at vizio..Buy a Sony or Samsung

Well, I'm definitley not buying a new TV.

My XBox loses sound once every 4-5 hours every other time I play it. Other then that, I have no issues at all. Seems a silly reason to replace a TV.

I'm sure I can find plenty of online complaints about Vizio just like I could about the XBox 360, the car I drive, the laptop I use, etc. The only people that report on those sites are people that have problems and they are generally the minority. I'm not saying the problem isn't the TV, in fact I believe it probably is. This problem though fits more into the "small annoyance" category then the "I need a new TV Category."

Thanks for the help by the way, I appreciate it.

 

[BIGTONY]

My tv is hd first generation all component ..It rocks..So I work for Bestbuy corp. We get some awesome deals I got a Toshiba hd player for 50. with my discount the last month before they went by by .I use it for all my upconvert movies look sick on it.Then I went on ebay and started buying movies like crazy..Planet Earth in Hd is so sweet.And the sound is awesome..I want a samsung 650 with the 120 hz,But I need to save my pennies.I got demoted at Pacific Sales ..They let go all home theater seniors.(only 2 employess in home theater)Me and a manager)Oh well,so I got transferred back to BesyBuy Fiesta Mall..Part Time sucks.Oh well its a job..

 

[Darth Llama]

Oh, one other thing. My HDMI's are indeed v1.3 just in case that matters. There does not appear to be a firmware update for the TV at this time.

 

[BIGTONY]

Good luck and have a good night always Tony

 

[Darth Llama]

Good luck and have a good night always Tony

Thanks again Tony, I'll keep working on it and see if I can make any progress.

 

[Dr. Jones]

My tv is hd first generation all component ..It rocks..So I work for Bestbuy corp. We get some awesome deals I got a Toshiba hd player for 50. with my discount the last month before they went by by .I use it for all my upconvert movies look sick on it.Then I went on ebay and started buying movies like crazy..Planet Earth in Hd is so sweet.And the sound is awesome..I want a samsung 650 with the 120 hz,But I need to save my pennies.I got demoted at Pacific Sales ..They let go all home theater seniors.(only 2 employess in home theater)Me and a manager)Oh well,so I got transferred back to BesyBuy Fiesta Mall..Part Time sucks.Oh well its a job..

Got the LN40A650 at xmas time. You will be impressed.

Where a good place to get a blu ray player deal??

 

[BIGTONY]

the bestbuy insignia is made buy Samsung..I know people dont like store brands.But sony makes 80 percent of all blu ray players..Its their patient..The samsung touch of color is the best tv on the market..I also like Panasonic.I have been to Customers House when their Panasonic gets Calibrated and it looks like a 5000 dollar Pioneer Elite.Also if you want 7.1 then get the better Samsung blu ray player.Also the Insignia is only 199..That a really good deal..Good luck any questions let me know.Or if you want a screaming deal let me know..

 

[Darth Llama]

Well, I set the Audio to DD Stereo and so far it seems to be working well. I also noticed another thing that might or might not have anything to do with this issue. I had apparently never specified my resolution in the XBox 360 settings and I think that might be part of the reason why they had to sync up. The console must have had to determine the optimal resolution everytime I rebooted it. I set that manually and changed the sound output and so far it seems to be working much better. It's still too early to tell for sure because the problem is intermittent, but I just played it for about an hour and a half and it worked perfect. Sound and Video were perfect, so hopefully one of those two things fixed the issue.

I'll keep you posted in case anyone else runs into a similar problem. Thanks again for the tips.

 

[puckhead]

Dolby stereo is the appropriate setting for your setup since you only have stereo speakers out of the TV. 5.1 is for hooking up to a 5.1 or greater audio receiver for surround sound.

The "syncing" you are seeing is what's called the "HDMI handshake". The Xbox is making sure your TV is an allowable device to send >1080i signal to. Thanks, content producers for your really fun digital rights management fetish.

I'm glad to hear you're not having problems since you made the changes. Let us know if it happens again.