You May Witness a Draft First...I Kid You Not!

[NightHawk11and81]

Exactly. The season would be delayed because nobody would've picked by then...

That wouldn't happen. Some team would just bite the bullet and pick.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Do any of you really think that CBs Mike Jenkins, Dom R-C, Aqib Talib or even Antoine Cason are legitimate first round picks? The reality is that none of them are. The only CB in this draft worthy of a first round pick is Leondis McKelvin...he's the only one who could play LCB...the others are more apt to be RCBs...what does that tell you?

That I don't trust your evaluation of cornerbacks in this league.

Sorry. I'm not trying to be rude.

 

[Totally_Red]

I don't think the Vikings intentionally passed as inferred earlier in the thread. They didn't have their act together and two teams picked within seconds before they got their pick in. They were roundly jeered for the ineptness.

As Russ said, they ended up having to pay what their original slot called for if memory serves.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

So, after "video gate", the PATS would now make a complete mockery of the draft.... Don't think so...

 

[ARZCardinals]

this scenario...while fun...won't happen.
teams won't give up the known for the unknown.

? is...did Minn mistakenly not get the card in on time or were they thinking the $$$ problem as well??????????

I agree with Crazy (that doesn't sound right)
after the spygate - Pats won't do anything to tarnish the league or Roger G. is going to pummel them.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

this scenario...while fun...won't happen.
teams won't give up the known for the unknown.

? is...did Minn mistakenly not get the card in on time or were they thinking the $$$ problem as well??????????

I agree with Crazy (that doesn't sound right)
after the spygate - Pats won't do anything to tarnish the league or Roger G. is going to pummel them.

It's OK...

My handle is simply to honour the monikor given to our downhill ski team in the 70's... "The Crazy Canucks".

 

[Spielman]

? is...did Minn mistakenly not get the card in on time or were they thinking the $$$ problem as well??????????

Minn goofed up and took too long while trying to make a trade. It wasn't intentional then.

It'd be interesting to see the Rams do this this year. Supposedly they've got Jake Long #1 on their board, and then are divided on whether to go Chris Long or Dorsey if Jake Long is gone. As dysfunctional as they are, it would be hilarious to see them be unable to make a decision and wind up sending up a guy with two cards, pass until somebody else takes one of those two, and then take the other.

 

[Renz]

Cowherd just reported that Jake Long has signed with Miami.

 

[joeshmo]

Cowherd just reported that Jake Long has signed with Miami.

Now the Rams can start negotiating with who they want. We might know who will go #1 and who will go #2. Thats why you wait to turn in your mock draft for the Azcardinals.com mock draft contest until the early morning before the draft.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't think the Vikings intentionally passed as inferred earlier in the thread. They didn't have their act together and two teams picked within seconds before they got their pick in. They were roundly jeered for the ineptness.

As Russ said, they ended up having to pay what their original slot called for if memory serves.

IIRC that's precisely what happened and they had a protracted contract negotiation because of that exact point.

 

[CardNots]

So, after "video gate", the PATS would now make a complete mockery of the draft.... Don't think so...

Did anybody check the war rooms for bugs planted by NE? Now that would be news worthy!

 

[CardsFan88]

lol I though about this a few years back, didn't happen. But I agree that if a team who picks in the top 5 or so for 10 years gets the same quality of players over that time with an average top 15-20 pick...odds are they have a lot more money to sign/resign free agents. (hard not to write it like a chicken and egg scenario but you all should get the gist) Not having huge contracts given to a rookie every year, you can afford to resign your own one every year. I'm really starting to think that a huge key to success is the following. All are pretty much controlled my the GM. Graves are you listening?

1. LTBE clauses to constantly keep the next years cap a couple mill higher or whatever
2. Consistently not having to dole out 30-70 mill in rookie contracts
3. Work the compensatory pick rules. extra 3-5th rounders can be golden, hell any of them can be, but 3-5th are obviously better. Add to that fact that it seems good playes can be had from a 3-5th round pick in trades, and options it does give you.

This strategy would be to keep the theme with #2. Below is the link from 3 years ago lol

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=52067

 

[Skkorpion]

Now the Rams can start negotiating with who they want. We might know who will go #1 and who will go #2. Thats why you wait to turn in your mock draft for the Azcardinals.com mock draft contest until the early morning before the draft.

No, schmo, they cannot. NFL rules do not allow it. Only the team with the first pick is allowed early negotiations.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

No, schmo, they cannot. NFL rules do not allow it. Only the team with the first pick is allowed early negotiations.

Keep posting, Skkorp... I appreciate the clock.

 

[john h]

Smart organizations like the Patriots have already realized that drafting at the top of the NFL Draft is a more-often a bane rather than a boon. The salaries that the top ten players in the draft are commanding are simply ludicrous and they are cap killers. Look, for example, how the Larry Fitzgerald contract situation has handicapped the Cardinals. Fortunately, the Cardinals were able to re-sign Fitz this year to a deal that gave them immediate help on their cap, but the Cards will face some tough decisions with him in the years ahead.

Case in Point: The Patriots sitting at #7. They didn't want to pay a great CB in their system, Assante Samuel (who was a 3rd round pick), big bucks beyond a franchise tag year. Do you really think they want to fork out $40M on whomever falls to them at #7 in this year's draft? They do not. Which is why they desperately want to trade out of that spot. The problem is that the one player they could get action on is QB Matt Ryan, if Atlanta doesn't take him at #3. The team picking ahead of the Patriots at #6, the NY Jets (of all people), could nix whatever trade anyone else would make to take Ryan at #6, by taking Ryan there. Rumors are that the Jets like Ryan a lot and would be willing to snag him at #6 if he is available. That would leave the Patriots in a serious quandry because it is highly unlikely that any team would trade with them to move up to #7.

Here's the gist...and this could be an all-time first in the NFL...if NO team is willing to trade up to #7 in the draft, we could actually sit in disbelief as the Patriots elect to let the clock run out and the next team make the pick and this could happen pick after pick until the Patriots are ready to pick a player at a spot where they are willing to pay him what the spot commands.

This will call into play what the rules are in the draft ...does a team have the right to pass and jump back in where they want, when they want? How long can they pass?

Here's where this draft is crazy....beyond T Jake Long, DE Chris Long, DT Glenn Dorsey, RB Darren McFadden and QB Matt Ryan...this draft is a crap shoot. And all the teams know it. Eeven McFadden as a top 5 pick has been questioned by not only Mike Mayock of NFL Network, but by NFL scouts in general.

The reality is...in this year's draft...no player is worth the $40M someone is going to have to shell out for the #7 pick.

Do any of you really think that CBs Mike Jenkins, Dom R-C, Aqib Talib or even Antoine Cason are legitimate first round picks? The reality is that none of them are. The only CB in this draft worthy of a first round pick is Leondis McKelvin...he's the only one who could play LCB...the others are more apt to be RCBs...what does that tell you?

Yet the prognosticators have all of these guys going in the first round. That's because the real value in this draft, as it is in most drafts, is in Rounds 2-5, period.

The Cardinals at #16, should do everything in their power to do what all the other teams beyond #5 or #6 want to do...move down. The Cards may have one thing in their favor at #16...there are 4 quarterbacks teams are coveting: Ryan, Brohm, Henne and Flacco. Teams won't mind paying a QB first round money if he become their franchise QB. At #16 the phone may ring from someone who wants one of these 4 QBs. If that's the case, the Cardinals should do everything they can to cash in on a deal, even if it means moving out of the first round altogether.

The thing is...if you look at tape...and you want a CB...beyond Leodis McKelvin, who, IMO, is head and a shoulders above the rest because of his skills and his technique...there's a guy named Tyvon Branch out of CT who is every bit as fast and talented as any of the other CBs in this draft...and you could land him late in the second or early in the third. None of the corners in this draft past McKelvin can come in and start right away anyway. Branch has all the speed, quickness and skills you'd want...and most pundits have him ranked as the #10 or #11 CB.

It would not surprise me one bit to see the Patriots pass at #7, unless one of the top five falls to them. Stay tuned.

I am of the opinion that a CB is one of the most difficult positions to judge coming out of college. A teams DL can make a CB look sorry or look great. We have had more than our share of lousy high picks for a CB. Only once in a decade does a Deion Sanders come along who was a clear #1. Kiper has us taking a CB in Cromartie with our #16. I sure hope not as he is more risky than say a RB or some other position. We need to pick a guy who is going to make a difference this year not 3 years from now and I do not think it will be a CB.