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Use a racial slur and you get your season tickets revoked. Can't imagine why interests in the NFL is waning.


Wait, are you arguing the NFL or a team should NOT have revoked the tickets of a racist making racist comments in a league where an OVERWHELMING majority of players are of color?!? Please tell me you somehow screwed up that comment.
 

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Wait, are you arguing the NFL or a team should NOT have revoked the tickets of a racist making racist comments in a league where an OVERWHELMING majority of players are of color?!? Please tell me you somehow screwed up that comment.
I'm saying that the NFL uses selective outrage. I guess it's OK that millions of people can be offended by the jackwagons disrespecting our fighting men and women by kneeling, sitting, putting up the racist black power fist with zero repercussions but choose to revoke this guy's season tickets over his stupidity. They're saying that it's OK to be offensive one way but not offensive the other way. Either punish it all or none.
 

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The whole circus which are these appeals is a farce. The player's union and the NFL to an extent is like having the inmates run the asylum. Don't get me wrong, the owners are no saints but this is getting laughable. The NFL makes a ruling and then the players force them to go under the old camera and review the play which takes forever. As a college professor, this would be like having my students protest any bad grade and then wait till next semester to see if they receive credit of not

And I might add this analogy to a class has merit. Imagine you have a student which is a troublemaker in your class. This person is affecting the ability for others to learn and the whole experience of the class and ultimately the whole university because it reflects on the institution's reputation, so as a professor I drop the guy which is my right to preserve the integrity of the university and I was hired because I was deemed qualified for my position enabling one to take such an act. Then the guy protests being kicked out and the head of my department goes, "well he has offered an appeal, so you have to keep him in your class"... later the appeal is denied but not after I have had to keep the guy in my class and the entire semester is a disaster for everyone else, the damage is done and the very act of being able to drop a student and prevent this from happening is a meaningless act
 
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I'm saying that the NFL uses selective outrage. I guess it's OK that millions of people can be offended by the jackwagons disrespecting our fighting men and women by kneeling, sitting, putting up the racist black power fist with zero repercussions but choose to revoke this guy's season tickets over his stupidity. They're saying that it's OK to be offensive one way but not offensive the other way. Either punish it all or none.

One of these things is not like the other.
 

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I'm saying that the NFL uses selective outrage. I guess it's OK that millions of people can be offended by the jackwagons disrespecting our fighting men and women by kneeling, sitting, putting up the racist black power fist with zero repercussions but choose to revoke this guy's season tickets over his stupidity. They're saying that it's OK to be offensive one way but not offensive the other way. Either punish it all or none.
Are you serious right now? Wow...just wow.
 

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I'm saying that the NFL uses selective outrage. I guess it's OK that millions of people can be offended by the jackwagons disrespecting our fighting men and women by kneeling, sitting, putting up the racist black power fist with zero repercussions but choose to revoke this guy's season tickets over his stupidity. They're saying that it's OK to be offensive one way but not offensive the other way. Either punish it all or none.

youre right... Kaepernick hasn't been punished at all.

Man... when someone gets outraged by a racist getting in trouble it just speaks volumes about that person. I mean, you turn his RACISM into mere "stupidity"? Like I said... your words speak volumes.
 
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I'm saying that the NFL uses selective outrage. I guess it's OK that millions of people can be offended by the jackwagons disrespecting our fighting men and women by kneeling, sitting, putting up the racist black power fist with zero repercussions but choose to revoke this guy's season tickets over his stupidity. They're saying that it's OK to be offensive one way but not offensive the other way. Either punish it all or none.

First understand that I don't agree with sitting/kneeling during anthem. That said, it's only recently (last 10-20 years) that the anthem has somehow become attached to the armed services. It's actually representative of the nation as a whole. And if there are people that take issue with national issues I understand their stance. Have you heard a single person that is kneeling/sitting say ANYTHING (other than support) about our troops? Nope. So the claim that they are disrespecting our troops is a social construct by people that don't like their actions.

And the raising of the black fist is not "racist" (and you should learn the definition of that word before you misuse it again - if you mean "prejudice" say "prejudice" but you are literally misusing the English language by using "racist" in that sentence). It was meant to be a sign of unity among a minority trying to strive for EQUAL position in society. Decidedly NOT racist OR prejudice.

And to water down the fan's RACIST (proper usage) comments is as nothing more than "stupidity" rather than what it really is, hate and dangerous speech, is glossing over a big issue facing our nation.

I love that you think the racist is just stupid and the folks fighting for equality are racist. The racists in this country are problem #1. Your actions and thoughts are problem #2.
 

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First understand that I don't agree with sitting/kneeling during anthem. That said, it's only recently (last 10-20 years) that the anthem has somehow become attached to the armed services. It's actually representative of the nation as a whole. And if there are people that take issue with national issues I understand their stance. Have you heard a single person that is kneeling/sitting say ANYTHING (other than support) about our troops? Nope. So the claim that they are disrespecting our troops is a social construct by people that don't like their actions.

And the raising of the black fist is not "racist" (and you should learn the definition of that word before you misuse it again - if you mean "prejudice" say "prejudice" but you are literally misusing the English language by using "racist" in that sentence). It was meant to be a sign of unity among a minority trying to strive for EQUAL position in society. Decidedly NOT racist OR prejudice.

And to water down the fan's RACIST (proper usage) comments is as nothing more than "stupidity" rather than what it really is, hate and dangerous speech, is glossing over a big issue facing our nation.

I love that you think the racist is just stupid and the folks fighting for equality are racist. The racists in this country are problem #1. Your actions and thoughts are problem #2.
Boom!
 

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I'm saying that the NFL uses selective outrage. I guess it's OK that millions of people can be offended by the jackwagons disrespecting our fighting men and women by kneeling, sitting, putting up the racist black power fist with zero repercussions but choose to revoke this guy's season tickets over his stupidity. They're saying that it's OK to be offensive one way but not offensive the other way. Either punish it all or none.

The only people disrespecting our men and women in the arm forces and everything this country stands for are people like you

People that want to deny people their constitutional right of expression


People that confuse fake patriotism showing at the NFL with loving and respecting the country


People that Call those actions racist
 

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OK, now this must stop and this thread must move to a political/societal forum because it has nothing to do with football and has gotten silly in that retrospective...

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OK, now this must stop and this thread must move to a political/societal forum because it has nothing to do with football and has gotten silly in that retrospective...

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The political forum rejects your trade offer! :mrgreen:
 

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i go back to Roger goodell blowing this particular case just as he has blown many other cases especially concussions but the owners in general are to blame as well(for all of it as he is just a figurehead). They took 16 months to conclude Elliott's investigation. They waited until he embarrassed the league to punish him for something that should have already been done if he is indeed guilty. now ironically they want swift justice in the courts. This is going to drag out.
 
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As a disabled veteran I can say that imo they have every right to kneel at the national anthem, and much worse, sure it's thumbs down to the flag and all the flag represents. But it is peaceful protest and no big deal, sticks and stones may break my bones but kneels will never hurt me.

Zeke is a evidence in a trend in cowboys culture- under the leadership of owner/GM Jerry Jones - approximately 10% of his players are suspended each year - lets vote him into the hall of fame - hooray for Jerry! Hooray for Tom Brady! Hooray for the despicables!

Makes me want to puke- NFLN manufactures hof inductees - leaving quieter better longer careers in purgatory. Lil Billy Bidwill has forgot more about pro football then JJ has ever known. Billy has lived the history of the NFL when it wasn't always a sure bet or a great investment, he survived with warranted criticism way past what JJ could survive. Many times for the good of the shield at a cost to his team.

I would lay down in the road for Billy Bidwill -

Biography

William V. Bidwill’s association with the Cardinals began as a child ball boy on Chicago’s South Side and continues today as owner.

A native of Chicago, Bill Bidwill presides over the oldest continuously-operated professional football franchise. Founded in 1898, the Cardinals join the Chicago Bears as the only two remaining charter members of the National Football League (1920). As his involvement with the team continues through its eighth different decade, the current one has seen the franchise reach unprecedented heights.

Over the last four seasons the Cardinals have won more games (41) than in any other four-year stretch in team history. In 2015, Arizona captured its third NFC West crown after posting a franchise-record 13 wins during the regular season. The Cardinals also earned the first postseason bye in team history in 2015. The Cardinals have gone .500 or better in seven of the last 10 seasons - including four 10-win campaigns during that span - and has sold out all 114 games played at University of Phoenix Stadium since it opened in 2006.

The Cardinals have remained in the Bidwill family since Bill’s father, Charles, a prominent Chicago sports figure and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, purchased the team in 1932. Charles ran the club until his death in the Cardinals’ NFL championship year of 1947. Charles’ wife, Violet, then guided the franchise’s fortunes for the next 15 years, followed jointly by sons Bill and Charles, Jr. (Stormy). Bill became sole owner in 1972.

Named a Cardinals vice president during his undergraduate days at Georgetown University, Bill Bidwill returned to Chicago from the Navy in 1956 to begin assisting family interests that included football. When the Cardinals moved to St. Louis in 1960, Bidwill returned to the organization on a full-time basis.

Bidwill continues to have a presence at the Cardinals training facility and is a popular fixture at team events, charity functions and football activities. An active supporter of various civic and charitable organizations and endeavors, Bidwill directed the formation of Cardinals Charities, the team’s organization dedicated to supporting worthy Arizona causes, shortly after the Cardinals arrived in the state.

While he is well-known for his understated nature and a preference for staying out of the spotlight, Bidwill has been unable to avoid accolades in recent years for his contributions and accomplishments as Cardinals owner.

At the 2010 annual NFL Combine in Indianapolis, Bidwill was honored with the Paul “Tank” Younger Award from the Fritz Pollard Alliance, whose purpose is to promote diversity and equality of job opportunity in the NFL. The Paul “Tank” Younger Award has been presented annually since 2003 for extraordinary contributions towards NFL diversity and previous winners include Tony Dungy, Dan Rooney and Bill Walsh. “When you look back over the years, Mr. Bidwill has a long history of hiring minorities to administrative and authoritative positions,” said FPA chairman John Wooten. “He has really helped level the playing field and that is what this award is all about.”

Also in February of 2010, Bidwill was inducted into the Sports Faith Hall of Fame in Lake Forest, IL. “(He) was honored as a long-time contributor to the NFL and for his contributions to charity, which he has conducted in a very quiet, very generous manner,” said Patrick McCaskey, chairman of the group’s advisory board and grandson of Chicago Bears legendary head coach George Halas. Bidwill joined Brian Piccolo, the former Bears running back, Tom Monaghan, founder of Domino’s Pizza and former owner of the Detroit Tigers, and John Gagliardi, head coach at St. John’s (MN) University and college football’s all-time wins leader.

At its December 2010 commencement exercises at Northern Arizona University, Bidwill was awarded an honorary doctor of humane letters degree for “his contributions to the university, his community and his profession.”

In May of 2017, Bidwill was selected for induction to the Georgetown Prep Athletic Hall of Fame. A 1949 graduate of the school, Bidwill was a two-sport athlete for the Little Hoyas football and baseball teams.

Bidwill was credited with bringing Super Bowl XXX to Arizona in January of 1996. The region hosted the game again in February of 2008 when Super Bowl XLVII was played at University of Phoenix Stadium. It hosted its third title game in February of 2015 when Super Bowl XLIX was played and resulted in a record economic impact of $720 million.

Bidwill’s wife of nearly 56 years, Nancy, passed away in August of 2016. The couple were married in September of 1960 and celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary in 2010. Bidwill has five children and 10 grandchildren.
 
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Ya sure and Carson could wake up Monday morning with a 28 years olds arm...:beer:

I kid..I kid, but I think Zeke is playing this year and will serve his suspension next year. What seems odd to me is that one would think after Tom Brady's deal that this would be a dead issue, yet courts continue to hear these cases. I wish a judge would just stand up and say "this is the league you signed up to play in", and "this is the agreement your union has with said league". So deal with it *******...:lmao:
 
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