2025 3rd round pick #75 is Jordan Burch Edge

[oaken1]

Careful oak- I got roasted before for suggesting it might make sense to move zaven back to ILB

Im quite accustomed to being either roasted or totally written off on this board.
so we just wait and see, lol

 

[oaken1]

Does Robinson move to DE in a more traditional 4-3?

in a traditional 4-3 alignment I would start

Sweat

Campbell
Tomlinson .................... Collins
Robinson
Burch

Ojulari/Browning

 

[Shane]

in a traditional 4-3 alignment I would start

Sweat

Campbell
Tomlinson .................... Collins
Robinson
Burch

Ojulari/Browning

Our 1st rounder Nolen rides the pine huh?

 

[oaken1]

Our 1st rounder Nolen rides the pine huh?

well its a rotation... could just as easily put Nolen in at DT and Robinson at DE... but Im guessing Nolen starts his career backing up Tomlinson and Burch backing up CC
that may all change by week 6

 

[kerouac9]

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Oh shoot did we draft another 24 year old??

 

[Russ Smith]

I have to say after watching some highlights aside from what Harry said this kid is VERY good at playing the ball for a DE or edge. If you just watch the Boise State highlights, he batted down 2 passes and dropped a picksix where he baited the QB into throwing it and then just dropped it. Wish he'd caught it but the ball awareness is pretty impressive.

There's also a play in the highlight package where he gets the snap in a fake punt and gets a first down, flashes some crazy athleticism for his size.

So I honestly had no clue on him but I'm intrigued now

 

[kerouac9]

I don't see an issue with snaps here.

1a. Josh Sweat 60%-70%
1b. Baron Browning 40%-50%
2a. Jordan Burch 30%-40%
2b. BJ Ojulari 25%-35%
3a. Zaven Collins 15%-25%
3b. Xavier Thomas Inactive

X will be the next guy up with an injury and as we know that will happen. Burch and BJ will have ups and downs with playing time with one off an injury and one a rookie. Browning might even be a tad lower since he is a liability in against the run.

I think you swap browning and Collins snaps and you’re close. Training camp could be a bloodbath.

 

[daves]

Oh shoot did we draft another 24 year old??

23 years 6 months 15 days.

 

[BACH]

He was not on the radar for me at all. Not a reach as he is Consensus #71 overall player. PFF had him #99. ESPN #52.

A lot of us in the live chat wanted Edge here, but I think all of us wanted the smaller speed rusher type. Well, he is not. High potential, psysically imposing player.

Clearly the coaching staff has a type and I guess not a surprise pick when you think about it. Gannon and Monti seem to like these psysical speciments.


From a payment site:

Burch is a high-potential player with athletic and physical gifts you can't teach. After finding his sweet spot of size and body composition, he can play in both odd and even fronts but projects best as a 4-3 defensive end. If he continues to master more pass-rush moves and hand usage, he can be a starter and a contributing player.

His 6-foot-5, 290-pound measureables give him true scheme versatility, which he shows in his tape, aligning anywhere from a 3-technique defensive tackle to a 7-technique outside linebacker. After re-shaping his body in the summer of 2024, he currently has his best combination of size, speed and strength (which has been a journey to find the sweet spot throughout his career). He has always been a very good weight-adjusted athlete and continues to be, winning with a nice first step and good leg drive as a pass-rusher.

Right now, his game lacks a consistent approach for a pass rush plan — the ball will be snapped before he’ll fire off the line and not know which move he’ll throw (too often not throwing one). Though he has a strong first step, he lacks the bend and flexibility to be a constant threat to the outside shoulder. He is improving as a passer-rusher, though, as 2024 was by far his most effective year in that category. He is a decent run defender but could stand to have a high floor.

 

[HairZach]

I've learned not to get too excited about 3rd round guys, especially rookie year. Another body for the rotation! Hopefully he can step up when Ojulari gets injured.

 

[oaken1]

Oh shoot did we draft another 24 year old??

We did, another old one

 

[Shane]

We did, another old one

Is he really old? If he pans out and plays well till he’s 31 he’s well worth a 3rd rounder for an “older” prospect.

 

[oaken1]

Is he really old? If he pans out and plays well till he’s 31 he’s well worth a 3rd rounder for an “older” prospect.

Thing is, we will see very little physical improvement from him. Just a possible improvement in skills and techniques.
So if he can't bull rush guys in week 1 he likely never will.

 

[Shane]

Thing is, we will see very little physical improvement from him. Just a possible improvement in skills and techniques.
So if he can't bull rush guys in week 1 he likely never will.

Well, that’s apparently his specialty incredibly strong and just destroys people.

 

[oaken1]

Well, that’s apparently his specialty incredibly strong and just destroys people.

Because he was destroying 19 and 20 year Olds. Won't be the case from here on out

 

[Shane]

Because he was destroying 19 and 20 year Olds. Won't be the case from here on out

Ehhh maybe maybe not a man among boys can still be a man amongst men.

 

[reebokalone2001]

Harry, if you don't mind, how does he compare to Princely? Thanks.

 

[GatorAZ]

McShay says he’s an edge. I think his ideal weight is sub-270.

 

[Goldfield]

This feels like a Zaven Collin’s upgrade. Maybe Zaven really is being moved back inside.

 

[Stout]

WHY NOT SKATTEBOO

Because he's not worth a 3rd rounder.

 

[Stout]

I'm good with the pick. I don't know him, but he's highly ranked and the exact type of player at this position that Gannon and Rallis want. I wanted us to take advantage of the DT and Edge class, and we did. Toss in a top 1st round talent in the 2nd round, and this is a great draft thus far.

 

[BritCard]

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Dude is going to kill people on special teams.

I like the pick. Always liked Burch but didn't think we would take edge outside round 1. I like him better than guys like Princely and Landon Jackson.

I'm at taking Edge more than taking Burch, but Monti isn't reaching it seems. He's just taking who is BPA on the board regardless of position and letting the chips fall where they may.

We have an extremely packed D line room now. Monti will surely look to move some guys out over the summer is he can. Guys like Nichols, Jones, even Zaven might be on the block if someone really likes him.

 

[Harry]

I have seen his weight reported from 267 to 295..not sure which is the truth. 267 puts him 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE.....295 makes him a 3-4DE
Not sure where he is at. either way he needs to improve his hand usage

He’s 295 but I’m hearing the Cards are thinking OLB because of the speed. I still see them playing him at DE in a 4-3 alignment.

 

[Harry]

Dude is going to kill people on special teams.

I like the pick. Always liked Burch but didn't think we would take edge outside round 1. I like him better than guys like Princely and Landon Jackson.

I'm at taking Edge more than taking Burch, but Monti isn't reaching it seems. He's just taking who is BPA on the board regardless of position and letting the chips fall where they may.

We have an extremely packed D line room now. Monti will surely look to move some guys out over the summer is he can. Guys like Nichols, Jones, even Zaven might be on the block if someone really likes him.

I hear he likes to play special teams

 

[Harry]

Harry, if you don't mind, how does he compare to Princely? Thanks.

Princely wins on speed and agility. Burch is a rare speed/power combination. At times it looked to me like Burch picked the path of heaviest contact. That will be a harder path in the NFL and we’ll see if he has the agility to adjust. That may be why the Cards seem to be thinking OLB. You let the DL tie up the big blockers and unleash Burch upon the poor RB. I honestly can’t recall seeing this many weapons on a pass rush unit. I liked Princely because I felt they had enough power guys to open up lanes for agility guys. I’m not disappointed they took this guy with Princely gone. In fact I’m hearing they would have taken him anyway.