Way too Early 2024 Cardinals Record Prediction post schedule release

[DVontel]

I want to actually be competitive in the playoffs, not just a consistent one-&-done.

 

[Stout]

I want to actually be competitive in the playoffs, not just a consistent one-&-done.

Me too. We're a long way off from that, at this point.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I mean, yeah. Spot on.

Yep

For better or worse, Ossenfort is sticking to his plan, his vision and his budget. He has delivered promising results entering his second season on the job. And after the desperate swings and shoddy exit of his predecessor, he has earned some blind faith.

 

[DVontel]

Me too. We're a long way off from that, at this point.

Your long way is just 1 season away for me.

 

[PACardsFan]

It's not a black and white "If you try early for the playoffs you're throwing away sustained success." It's not hard to make the playoffs these days, especially in the NFC. We could easily have done more to be competitive without in the least way risking long-term development. Easily.

We can agree to disagree. I’m fine with that. I didn’t say the Cardinals couldn’t make the playoffs in year 2. They certainly can. But, I wouldn’t make decisions that may create quicker results only to not sustain that success. MO has a process in play. Within reason, I hope he sticks to it.

 

[Stout]

Your long way is just 1 season away for me.

I hope you're the correct one on this topic.

 

[Stout]

We can agree to disagree. I’m fine with that. I didn’t say the Cardinals couldn’t make the playoffs in year 2. They certainly can. But, I wouldn’t make decisions that may create quicker results only to not sustain that success. MO has a process in play. Within reason, I hope he sticks to it.

Your belief makes it sound like we could only do two extremes: ONLY go hard in the draft and do very little in FA and save cap space, or ONLY go the Keim way and mortgage our future. There is a clear middle ground approach as well.

 

[Carolinacacti]

I need seven wins for the money. Anything else is gravy, this defense is better then people think

 

[Harry]

I need to see the first string play before making an informed guess. I was disappointed with the lack of line depth. Clearly it won’t take many injuries to derail any hopes for improvement. I think this situation eliminates any chance of sneaking into the playoffs. This also looks like a tougher schedule than might have been expected.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Me too. We're a long way off from that, at this point.

I think a solid FA class and more young talent for the front seven can make this team a playoff contender. They aren't there yet.

 

[MadCardDisease]

This also looks like a tougher schedule than might have been expected.

I think everyone knows that early part of the Cardinals schedule is brutal.

I have them going 3-5 to start the first half of the season.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

The goal of the MOJG administration is to build SUSTAINABLE success over a longer stretch of time, and not necessarily a team that makes the playoffs for a year or two, and then crashes to rock bottom & has to start all over again. I can show you examples from the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, and all the way up to the Kingsbury regime where they have made the playoffs and then fell off a cliff. No, they didn’t make the playoffs in the 60’s, but that’s only because wildcard berths didn’t exist. But, even back then they would go 9-3-2, just miss the playoffs & then go 4-9-1 the next season. So, I’m ALL in on doing whatever it takes to build and SUSTAIN playoff runs, as opposed to bandaid a roster for short term success. If it takes a 3rd year, then I’m fine with that. And Bidwill feels the same way. All you have to do is go back and listen to his presser when he first hired MO. Carry on.

Please explain to me how signing a legitimate pass rusher on a short term deal prevents sustainable success. I'll wait.

 

[kerouac9]

We can agree to disagree. I’m fine with that. I didn’t say the Cardinals couldn’t make the playoffs in year 2. They certainly can. But, I wouldn’t make decisions that may create quicker results only to not sustain that success. MO has a process in play. Within reason, I hope he sticks to it.

Who are these franchises you'd like us to model?

 

[PACardsFan]

Your belief makes it sound like we could only do two extremes: ONLY go hard in the draft and do very little in FA and save cap space, or ONLY go the Keim way and mortgage our future. There is a clear middle ground approach as well.

And I trust MO to find that clear path. More so than you or me lol.

 

[PACardsFan]

Please explain to me how signing a legitimate pass rusher on a short term deal prevents sustainable success. I'll wait.

And that may still happen. But, I’ll leave that up to MOJG to decide, since that’s what they were hired to do.

 

[Stout]

I need seven wins for the money. Anything else is gravy, this defense is better then people think

Anything more than 7 wins being gravy in year two is incredibly lacking in ambition. The bar is nearly at the floor.

 

[Stout]

I think a solid FA class and more young talent for the front seven can make this team a playoff contender. They aren't there yet.

We have proven we don't go in for solid FA classes. We need superstars, and the options for them on our roster are few and far between.

 

[Stout]

And that may still happen. But, I’ll leave that up to MOJG to decide, since that’s what they were hired to do.

Man, it's like you're traumatized, a drowning man, and Monti is your only life preserver.

 

[PACardsFan]

Man, it's like you're traumatized, a drowning man, and Monti is your only life preserver.

I’ve learned to not stress over something I can’t control. If he fails, he’ll be fired. That’s how it usually works. So far, I like his approach.

 

[PACardsFan]

Who are these franchises you'd like us to model?

He did spend a lot of time with the Patriots. And they did ok lol. There seems to be a handful of teams that have had a level of sustained success. That needs to be the goal. Not necessarily that we need to win 7 or 8 SB’s, but that we consistently make the playoffs & are at times a threat to go deep into them.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

And that may still happen. But, I’ll leave that up to MOJG to decide, since that’s what they were hired to do.

Wait - you're saying there is still a chance we sign a decent edge at this point?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

He did spend a lot of time with the Patriots. And they did ok lol. There seems to be a handful of teams that have had a level of sustained success. That needs to be the goal. Not necessarily that we need to win 7 or 8 SB’s, but that we consistently make the playoffs & are at times a threat to go deep into them.

They did ok with Tom Brady - sans Tom Brady, they're a joke.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I’ve learned to not stress over something I can’t control. If he fails, he’ll be fired. That’s how it usually works. So far, I like his approach.

I liked his approach from the beginning although I'm struggling right now given our needs and all the money we didn't spend. Still, it's too early to abandon ship and if it takes him/them another year to make us mediocre and another year beyond that to put us into real contention, I can live with that. I wish I had a little more confidence our path will actually lead to success but unfortunately Mike B and our history puts it in the unlikely column.

 

[kerouac9]

He did spend a lot of time with the Patriots. And they did ok lol. There seems to be a handful of teams that have had a level of sustained success. That needs to be the goal. Not necessarily that we need to win 7 or 8 SB’s, but that we consistently make the playoffs & are at times a threat to go deep into them.

The Pats had Tom Brady playing on a below-market contract for 19 years. Since he left they are 29-38, haven't won a playoff game in five years, and just fired their head coach. So how exportable is that process really?

Anyone you'd point to beyond the Pats?

 

[PACardsFan]

Wait - you're saying there is still a chance we sign a decent edge at this point?

Or trade for one? Never say never. Or maybe the people that are there every day coaching them think that we can get by? I’ll leave that decision up to the people closest to the team.