Cardinals cut list and new signings/trades

[Gandhi]

Yeah I'm not comfortable with what the Cardinals have at Edge right now.

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[AsUpRoDiGy]

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[BirdGangThing]

He’s been guaranteed a chance to still compete with Tune

Which is really good for us

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Money...err Monti Ball!

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[Stout]

Money...err Monti Ball!

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But, but, we're really hoping for year 12 development

 

[kerouac9]

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It might even be worse than that? Zaven Collins (5.5 sacks in three seasons --- OOOF, 50 games) and Dennis Gardeck (14 sacks in 89 career games) make up 83% of the sack numbers.

Victor Dimukeje somehow had more sacks last season than Collins did (and more pressures than Beej???). My Gawd.

Jesse Luketa has yet to sack a quarterback as a pro and had 0.5 sacks in four years at Penn State. Yikes.

 

[Shane]

Jesse Luketa has yet to sack a quarterback as a pro and had 0.5 sacks in four years at Penn State. Yikes.

Brother I cleared this up already remember just a late bloomer. Diamond in the rough. And we have him…

 

[BACH]

It might even be worse than that? Zaven Collins (5.5 sacks in three seasons --- OOOF, 50 games) and Dennis Gardeck (14 sacks in 89 career games) make up 83% of the sack numbers.

Victor Dimukeje somehow had more sacks last season than Collins did (and more pressures than Beej???). My Gawd.

Jesse Luketa has yet to sack a quarterback as a pro and had 0.5 sacks in four years at Penn State. Yikes.

Actually. both Gardeck and Dimukeje have really good win and pressure %. Both have limitations for a starting role, but their output is way over par for a back-up pass-rusher. (I think Gardeck is better suited as a pure 3rd down role, not as a starter)

 

[kerouac9]

Actually. both Gardeck and Dimukeje have really good win and pressure %. Both have limitations for a starting role, but their output is way over par for a back-up pass-rusher. (I think Gardeck is better suited as a pure 3rd down role, not as a starter)

I don't trust pass rush win rate. I agree that Gardeck is probably above-replacement-level as a situational edge rusher -- kind of a homeless man's Bryce Huff. But he's already 30 and likely to decline.

Dimukeje I have to see more of. I think his numbers last year are more a result of "someone has to get the random coverage sack" and effort than nascent pass rush ability. He played 23 fewer snaps than Beej had the same amount of sacks and more pressures. He's a perfectly cromulent 5th edge for most teams.

I wonder if Zaven had something mechanically wrong with his pass rush last year. He had a ton of pressures but couldn't cash them in. Would expect him to have 6-8 this year based on just reversion to the mean.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Barnes added back and Jones to IR.

Cardinals bring back LB Krys Barnes to active roster and put rookie CB ELijah Jones on IR

 

[PDXChris]

We are at $25 million today. We were at $36 yesterday. Injured reserve and PS salaries equal about the difference. It's a similar dip for most teams. Then there are the Browns, who restructured Watson to push money to next year. Odd!

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[Shane]

We are at $25 million today. We were at $36 yesterday. Injured reserve and PS salaries equal about the difference. It's a similar dip for most teams. Then there are the Browns, who restructured Watson to push money to next year. Odd!

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Practice squad salaries are part of the salary cap? Even though they’re not on the active roster? Seems odd since the lowest numbered salaries at the bottom end of the roster don’t count.

 

[PDXChris]

Practice squad salaries are part of the salary cap? Even though they’re not on the active roster?

It appears that way according to Over the Cap. That's new to be, but the math adds up.

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[PDXChris]

Two other points, we're 14 of 32 in active spending on the season, so average.

Also, a few teams have a week to get under the cap. Let's help one of these teams out and take an Edge Rusher off their hands!

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[Shane]

It appears that way according to Over the Cap. That's new to be.

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I’ve literally been told on here multiple times that it’s only the certain number of top salaries count even the bottom end of the active 53 don’t count towards salary cap that their salaries drop off at a certain level so it’s weird that the practice squad would count

 

[PDXChris]

I’ve literally been told on here multiple times that it’s only the certain number of top salaries count even the bottom end of the active 53 don’t count towards salary cap that their salaries drop off at a certain level so it’s weird that the practice squad would count

Agreed! I always thought is was just the top 51 salaries. This is new to me too. Could be a newer rule and why so many teams sat off more than usual going into the season.

 

[kerouac9]

I’ve literally been told on here multiple times that it’s only the certain number of top salaries count even the bottom end of the active 53 don’t count towards salary cap that their salaries drop off at a certain level so it’s weird that the practice squad would count

That's only in the preseason. When there are 90 players on the roster, only the top 53 count against the cap.

Once the season starts, every dollar you pay players goes against the cap.

 

[PDXChris]

That's only in the preseason. When there are 90 players on the roster, only the top 53 count against the cap.

Once the season starts, every dollar you pay players goes against the cap.

I just didn't realize PS counted too since they aren't active players. I knew players in IR did though.

 

[CardNots]

Two other points, we're 14 of 32 in active spending on the season, so average.

Also, a few teams have a week to get under the cap. Let's help one of these teams out and take an Edge Rusher off their hands!

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Wow, 47 million dead money for the panthers.

 

[oaken1]

Wow, 47 million dead money for the panthers.

Even a trade wouldn't help them because it would accelerate bonus and create more dead money... they have to cut either young guys or vet minimum guys with limited bonus

 

[QuebecCard]

Practice squad salaries are part of the salary cap? Even though they’re not on the active roster? Seems odd since the lowest numbered salaries at the bottom end of the roster don’t count.

They don't count when accounting for the top 51 in the offseason.

But at the end of training camp and the reduction to a final 53 + the PS, all contracts count against the Cap.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Practice squad salaries are part of the salary cap? Even though they’re not on the active roster? Seems odd since the lowest numbered salaries at the bottom end of the roster don’t count.

Yes, I was listening to Scott Pioli the other day say that teams allow for approx $3.5 million for PS salaries against the cap. It looks like Cards are pretty much in line with that.

 

[kerouac9]

Even a trade wouldn't help them because it would accelerate bonus and create more dead money... they have to cut either young guys or vet minimum guys with limited bonus

They can restructure a few guys to get back under.

 

[slanidrac16]

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So are you saying we are overdue?

 

[Goodyear Card]

Cardinals bring back LB Krys Barnes to active roster and put rookie CB ELijah Jones on IR