Not A Single Fan………….

[602 Native]

Should be going to games after this embarrassment of a game. The Cardinals don’t deserve loyal fans because they aren’t loyal to putting a watchable product on the field. Year after year the coaches chang, the FO changes, and the players change but they end up the same place. Losing and looking inept.

We have $22 million in cap space and have all kinds of holes on this team. The Oline is a mess. The Dline is a mess. The pass catchers can’t catch or get separation. The coaches can’t scheme to win either. Lastly the GM is content with what he has done which isn’t much.

It’s been 36 years and the Cardinals are no better of a franchise as when they got here. In fact I would say they are worse. We kicked one underachieving franchise out of town it is time for another owner to go as well.

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[Brian in Mesa]

And we have a questionable franchise QB.

My wife and I aren't dropping our tickets. I have been to every home game except two preseason games since the Cardinals moved here. My wife and I both have attended the games together since 1993. It's a tradition. Went to the only two games available to most fans during the pandemic (Miami and Buffalo). We both went to Tampa and saw our team compete in the Super Bowl.

Loyalty means being there when things are bad and when things are good. It's really easy for casual fans to tell others to not go to the games when they have never regularly attended games.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

And we have a questionable franchise QB.

My wife and I aren't dropping our tickets. I have been to every home game except two preseason games since the Cardinals moved here. My wife and I both have attended the games together since 1993. It's a tradition. Went to the only two games available to most fans during the pandemic (Miami and Buffalo). We both went to Tampa and saw our team compete in the Super Bowl.

Loyalty means being there when things are bad and when things are good. It's really easy for casual fans to tell others to not go to the games when they have never regularly attended games.

I have a lot of respect for you and your wife for being so loyal

 

[602 Native]

And we have a questionable franchise QB.

My wife and I aren't dropping our tickets. I have been to every home game except two preseason games since the Cardinals moved here. My wife and I both have attended the games together since 1993. It's a tradition. Went to the only two games available to most fans during the pandemic (Miami and Buffalo). We both went to Tampa and saw our team compete in the Super Bowl.

Loyalty means being there when things are bad and when things are good. It's really easy for casual fans to tell others to not go to the games when they have never regularly attended games.

The Bidwills aren't loyal to you my man.

Do what you want but no one owes the Bidwills anything.

They have shown they don't care about their fans, players, or the people who work for them.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

i love going to the games. Gotta remember its just a damn game. Go have a hotdog and a beer and cheer on the Big Red, if the losses get to you that much then just take a few weeks off.

 

[Goldfield]

I used to be hardcore fan. Still love them but it’s no longer going to ruin my day/week. Ok maybe the day.

 

[Garthshort]

So only married fans should go?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

So only married fans should go?

Maybe that's why we continue to go... LOL

It is in our vows - for better or worse.

 

[phillycard]

And we have a questionable franchise QB.

My wife and I aren't dropping our tickets. I have been to every home game except two preseason games since the Cardinals moved here. My wife and I both have attended the games together since 1993. It's a tradition. Went to the only two games available to most fans during the pandemic (Miami and Buffalo). We both went to Tampa and saw our team compete in the Super Bowl.

Loyalty means being there when things are bad and when things are good. It's really easy for casual fans to tell others to not go to the games when they have never regularly attended games.

B, you're a saint, and I mean that in every way possible. You exemplify what I have always felt for this team my entire life having lived states away from the team I loved since I was a boy. I can't ever walk away, but it hurts. Every year the same crap. I have to live through the anger of those of us who do stay away or have given up season tickets because I know if I lived in AZ, I'd be in that building with you more often than not. I just can't give them up or boycott supporting them. It goes against my whole being and sports fandom. But damn it hurts.

 

[Card4Life]

I've been a die hard fan since I was a kid (in the 70's). That's a lot of pain! I can remember my dad saying to me "why are you getting so upset? They get paid win or lose." I still ask myself that question today.

I can't help but be a die hard. I'm just hard wired that way. Sometimes I wish I could make myself care less than I do. Can still remember like it was yesterday in 1984 when Neil O'Donahue missed the FG against Washington and we lost 29-27 (we were trailing 23-7 at one point). If we had won we would have made the playoffs (which was and still is a rarity). I was so ticked, I got in my car and drove around for about 2 hours. Also missed school the next day (told mom I was sick )

 

[cardpa]

I used to be hardcore fan. Still love them but it’s no longer going to ruin my day/week. Ok maybe the day.

Been there, done that, now I still support them, root for them and follow them as well as read just about anything about them and watch every game I possibly could (I still watch to the end no matter how bad or good they are doing) and will probably go to the Panther game, however getting down about losses and getting moody and pissed off just isn't there anymore. After 55 years of following this team, it gets to the point where you just can't take it seriously anymore.

 

[Cardsmasochist]

The Bidwills aren't loyal to you my man.

Do what you want but no one owes the Bidwills anything.

They have shown they don't care about their fans, players, or the people who work for them.

Bidwill doesn’t know how to run a winning franchise. He just doesn’t

 

[Redsz]

Been a fan since 2003. I'm a youngin compared to many on here.

I said it in another thread, I am not dropping a single dime more on this team after this showing against Washington.

They need to get to .500 or better for me to open my wallet.

 

[phillycard]

I've been a die hard fan since I was a kid (in the 70's). That's a lot of pain! I can remember my dad saying to me "why are you getting so upset? They get paid win or lose." I still ask myself that question today.

I can't help but be a die hard. I'm just hard wired that way. Sometimes I wish I could make myself care less than I do. Can still remember like it was yesterday in 1984 when Neil O'Donahue missed the FG against Washington and we lost 29-27 (we were trailing 23-7 at one point). If we had won we would have made the playoffs (which was and still is a rarity). I was so ticked, I got in my car and drove around for about 2 hours. Also missed school the next day (told mom I was sick )

More tears shed over this team than I care to remember. LOL

 

[PACardsFan]

I've been a die hard fan since I was a kid (in the 70's). That's a lot of pain! I can remember my dad saying to me "why are you getting so upset? They get paid win or lose." I still ask myself that question today.

I can't help but be a die hard. I'm just hard wired that way. Sometimes I wish I could make myself care less than I do. Can still remember like it was yesterday in 1984 when Neil O'Donahue missed the FG against Washington and we lost 29-27 (we were trailing 23-7 at one point). If we had won we would have made the playoffs (which was and still is a rarity). I was so ticked, I got in my car and drove around for about 2 hours. Also missed school the next day (told mom I was sick )

I was at that game in DC in 1984. To this day, I got more upset over that loss than any loss I can remember.

 

[BritCard]

Dude, the fans sold out before the game. It looked like a Washington home game.

Fans who regularly sell out their team to make money are getting exactly what they deserve.

Yes, season ticket are expensive, although Cards are some of the cheapest in the league, but nobody HAS to buy them. You don't see the Lions, Jets, Texans or other teams selling out so badly to visiting fans. And there are plenty of fans that have suffered through bad football.

 

[TRW]

I can't afford to go to a game let alone buy season tickets. Plus I have some health issues that keep me from sitting in those seats for 3 hours. BUT, if I could, I would. I had season tickets back in the SDS days with 2 of my sons and it was an absolute BLAST. The team sucked like it does now, the visitor's fans outnumbered us many games, etc., etc. but it was football and I was with my boys.

I was a Cardinals fan before they came because my Dad was a St. Louis Cardinal baseball fan and I just added them in. Jim Hart and the gang were fun to watch and I loved it when they would occasionally punk Dallas.

Now, I root for them because they are the home team and that's about it. If they moved away I doubt I would follow them that much and go back to the days before they came when I was a fan of certain players and not teams.

So, I appreciate the angst of the OP but don't agree with anyone who tells others what they "should" "should not" do.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Been a fan since 2003. I'm a youngin compared to many on here.

I said it in another thread, I am not dropping a single dime more on this team after this showing against Washington.

They need to get to .500 or better for me to open my wallet.

i thought a prerequisite was in order to post here you HAD to experience the mid-ninties Buddy Ryan era at least!?!?


Just kidding

 

[PACardsFan]

I can't afford to go to a game let alone buy season tickets. Plus I have some health issues that keep me from sitting in those seats for 3 hours. BUT, if I could, I would. I had season tickets back in the SDS days with 2 of my sons and it was an absolute BLAST. The team sucked like it does now, the visitor's fans outnumbered us many games, etc., etc. but it was football and I was with my boys.

I was a Cardinals fan before they came because my Dad was a St. Louis Cardinal baseball fan and I just added them in. Jim Hart and the gang were fun to watch and I loved it when they would occasionally punk Dallas.

Now, I root for them because they are the home team and that's about it. If they moved away I doubt I would follow them that much and go back to the days before they came when I was a fan of certain players and not teams.

So, I appreciate the angst of the OP but don't agree with anyone who tells others what they "should" "should not" do.

My Dad was a St. Louis Cardinals baseball fan too. I was 6 and watched with my Dad the 64 WS win over the dreaded Yankees. And we actually lived in upstate NY. During the broadcast they made mention that the football Cardinals were playing the Bears. That’s when I became a football Cardinals fan. For many years, I loved the fact that I was a fan of both St. Louis Cardinal teams.

 

[PJ1]

I was at that game in DC in 1984. To this day, I got more upset over that loss than any loss I can remember.

The phantom roughing the passer call on E.J. Junior still haunts to this day.

 

[TRW]

My Dad was a St. Louis Cardinals baseball fan too. I was 6 and watched with my Dad the 64 WS win over the dreaded Yankees. And we actually lived in upstate NY. During the broadcast they made mention that the football Cardinals were playing the Bears. That’s when I became a football Cardinals fan. For many years, I loved the fact that I was a fan of both St. Louis Cardinal teams.

Dad always said about the Yankees: "They have enough fans. They don't need me.". LOL

 

[CardNots]

i thought a prerequisite was in order to post here you HAD to experience the mid-ninties Buddy Ryan era at least!?!?


Just kidding

There is something behind what you say.

 

[PACardsFan]

Dad always said about the Yankees: "They have enough fans. They don't need me.". LOL

My father’s brothers were all Yankee fans, so that WS win was my Dad’s favorite championship. As they taunted him throughout that series, my Dad would just wink at me & say He who laughs last, laughs the loudest lol. That was 60 years ago, but I still remember jumping off the couch with my arms in the air after the last out.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

My dad got me on the Cardinals too back in the day. Terry Metcalf was my hero.

One of the best memories of my life was when I first got Sunday Ticket and was talking to my dad on the phone giving him the play by play when Chris Jackie made that 53 yard FG(I think against SD) to put the Cards in the playoffs.

 

[602 Native]

Dude, the fans sold out before the game. It looked like a Washington home game.

Fans who regularly sell out their team to make money are getting exactly what they deserve.

Yes, season ticket are expensive, although Cards are some of the cheapest in the league, but nobody HAS to buy them. You don't see the Lions, Jets, Texans or other teams selling out so badly to visiting fans. And there are plenty of fans that have suffered through bad football.

In the late 90s to early 2000s you could buy Lions tickets for a song. They were terrible.
Look at Carolina right now. The Cards have been on more bad seasons than good for their entire tenure here in AZ. Even the Super Bowl year they only won 9 regular season games.

Its not just about the Washington game. Even on this forum people get down on the team during the game when we have a big lead and expect them to blow it.