Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

[AzStevenCal]

If MIA ever would entartain the idea of trading Butler for Beal, the question is not whether the Suns are willing to include their 2031 unprotected 1st - since that is a must, IMO - but the question is if are they willing to include Dunn and/or Ighodaro as well.

I about threw up until I remembered we can't actually do that.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I about threw up until I remembered we can't actually do that.

they could in a separate trade... not that i think they should.

 

[AzStevenCal]

they could in a separate trade... not that i think they should.

So, keep the vomit bag close? I know Oso and Dunn are far from being impact players but they're about the only reason I can even think about watching this team play most nights.

 

[Yuma]

If MIA ever would entartain the idea of trading Butler for Beal, the question is not whether the Suns are willing to include their 2031 unprotected 1st - since that is a must, IMO - but the question is if are they willing to include Dunn and/or Ighodaro as well.

You're safe on that. Since we are over the second apron, we can't trade multliple players.

 

[Yuma]

So, keep the vomit bag close? I know Oso and Dunn are far from being impact players but they're about the only reason I can even think about watching this team play most nights.

Gambo said the Suns wouldn't include a 2031 draft pick on the Beal/Butler trade. Maybe on a Nurkic trade. I think just gut feeling, they see how the rest of the conference is getting bigger, taller and younger. Maybe it's finally dawned on them they need to keep that pick. Who knows?

 

[GatorAZ]

Gambo said the Suns wouldn't include a 2031 draft pick on the Beal/Butler trade. Maybe on a Nurkic trade. I think just gut feeling, they see how the rest of the conference is getting bigger, taller and younger. Maybe it's finally dawned on them they need to keep that pick. Who knows?

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[Cheesebeef]

So, keep the vomit bag close? I know Oso and Dunn are far from being impact players but they're about the only reason I can even think about watching this team play most nights.

That is, unfortunately, what I’m saying.

I like those two kids a lot also. I think they could both be regular rotation players with upside moving forward.

 

[1tinsoldier]

how about Butler + another player or picks for Booker and Beal? We get rid of both oversized salaries. We'd probably have the same shot at this year's playoffs and a better future.

 

[hcsilla]

You're safe on that. Since we are over the second apron, we can't trade multliple players.

Yes, but we can do this in separate trades.

Jimmy Butler trade rumors: Suns floated as possible destination, and there's a narrow path to a deal

Butler is also reportedly interested in the Warriors, Mavericks and Rockets

www.cbssports.com

For example

Butler, Burks to PHO
Richardson, 2nd rounder from the Suns to DET

Beal, Dunn, 2031 1st to MIA works under the cap

because from Suns' point of view Butler for Beal, 2031 1st is deal #1
Dunn, 2nd for Burks is deal #2

 

[hcsilla]

Gambo said the Suns wouldn't include a 2031 draft pick on the Beal/Butler trade.

Which is totally laughable. I hardly can see the Heat doing this trade with the pick but why on earth would they do it without it?

 

[hcsilla]

So, keep the vomit bag close? I know Oso and Dunn are far from being impact players but they're about the only reason I can even think about watching this team play most nights.

I agree but I might even see the Suns including also Dunn and/or Ighodaro if MIA is adamant, since Butler offers both upgrade on the court and financial relief as well.

 

[leclerc]

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"Multiple efforts"

I would be pleased with at least one. Too often the paint is wide open, or guys don't run back. We give up way too easy baskets, a lot of it due to little or low effort, so yeah... talking is easy, just ask Dominayton.

 

[leclerc]

I agree but I might even see the Suns including also Dunn and/or Ighodaro if MIA is adamant, since Butler offers both upgrade on the court and financial relief as well.

If they trade Dunn or Oso I will try to cancel my league pass subscription. For Pete's sake. Trade whoever you can ***except*** the rookies and first round picks.

 

[Ronin]

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[ASUCHRIS]

Maybe you are committed, I'm not.

I know this team is going nowhere with or without Bultler for at least 8 years and I don't want to wait that long.

If you'd rather roll with Beal for 3 more years vs. Butler, I don't know what to tell you. The 2031 1st is magic beans at this point.

 

[Mainstreet]

If the goal is a championship, about all the Suns can do is push forward.

No one wants to trade a rookie or a first round pick, however, the Suns went past the point of no return some time ago.

Hopefully, the Suns can do something creative with contracts like Beal, Allen, Okogie, O'Neale or Nurkic.

Blowing up the Suns likely means 10 or more years of pain to get back to where they are right now.

 

[Mainstreet]

Regarding the proposed Butler trade rumor, I think there are some key factors that may help the Suns in a trade.

1. Jimmy Butler has a player option next season for $52,413,394. Plus, he wants a new contract.

2. The Heat do not want to lose Jimmy Butler for nothing.

3. Who is going to pay him the money he wants on his next contract. Note: I think Mat Ishbia would. IMO, most NBA owners wouldn't.

4. And fourth, he wants to play here.

 

[Proximo]

If the goal is a championship, about all the Suns can do is push forward.

No one wants to trade a rookie or a first round pick, however, the Suns went past the point of no return some time ago.

Hopefully, the Suns can do something creative with contracts like Beal, Allen, Okogie, O'Neale or Nurkic.

Blowing up the Suns likely means 10 or more years of pain to get back to where they are right now.

I don't believe in that nonsense.

Digging a hole deeper to nowhere is just stupidity.

It only makes sense to mortgage your future if there actually is a present you are buying - but we aren't - Butler will not put this team over the top.

The real reason to do the deal if possible is to get more financial flexibility by unloading Beal's contract.

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't believe in that nonsense.

Digging a hole deeper to nowhere is just stupidity.

It only makes sense to mortgage your future if there actually is a present you are buying - but we aren't - Butler will not put this team over the top.

The real reason to do the deal if possible is to get more financial flexibility by unloading Beal's contract.

Butler plays small forward, shooting guard, and power forward.

He is a 6 X All-Star. He fills a lot of needs.

I can see why the Suns are exploring the situation, especially if the Heat don't want to pay him going forward and the Suns are willing.

Also, Butler is a good defensive player and the Suns need defense.

 

[djm75]

"Multiple efforts"

I would be pleased with at least one. Too often the paint is wide open, or guys don't run back. We give up way too easy baskets, a lot of it due to little or low effort, so yeah... talking is easy, just ask Dominayton.

They do make multiple efforts, though. Like, three or four. Over the course of the whole season.

 

[Chaplin]

They'd be stupid not to look into it, but the CBA constraints to me just make the odds of this happening at "abysmal."

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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