Cardinals at Panthers gameday thread 12-22-24

[pemory09]

The fat lady has sung. The season is over. KM has faceplanted into yet another second half of the season collapse. The Cardinals sucked in St. Louis and they suck in Arizona. Time for Bidwill to relocate the team again and start from scratch once again.

Hey, hey—that’s just not true. They also sucked in Chicago.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Nah, they will win one of these stupid games. Just so they are one or two spots too far back in the draft to get their best pick.

It's the "Way"

They do this to us every year

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[ajcardfan]

Gannon lucky as hell everybody is focused on Kyler, Marv, & Petzing.

Hopefully he gets some tougher questions this week. This game was really lost in the 1st quarter and there were a lot of mental mistakes. I thought for sure we would be locked in and ready. But we were not.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Gannon lucky as hell everybody is focused on Kyler, Marv, & Petzing.

Yup. We have looked like dogsnot since the bye.

 

[FB94]

Lots of blame for everyone today. Coaches players everyone stunk up the joint today. No one was mentally prepared for this game on the field or in the coaches booth. But it’s ok Bidwill is a pilot right

 

[pemory09]

Seasons over!
What a let down

Our mantra….

 

[FB94]

All about the draft now. Just don’t do a typical cardinal move once eliminated and win out.

 

[AustrianCardFan]

Yeah I am done, please get rid of Kyler...

Not that it matters, but can anyone explaIn to me how there can be an illegal man downfield during a punt? I am pretty sure I have never heard that penalty before.

 

[Cheesebeef]

All about the draft now. Just don’t do a typical cardinal move once eliminated and win out.

Like it matters. We had the 3rd pick two years ago and the 4th pick this year and STILL managed to get BOTH wrong.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Yeah I am done, please get rid of Kyler...

Not that it matters, but can anyone explaIn to me how there can be an illegal man downfield during a punt? I am pretty sure I have never heard that penalty before.

Only the Cardinals can do these things

 

[eastcoastDave]

Might as well lose the last two, finish 7-10. Record will be better than last year so everyone can claim improvement while still drafting relatively high. We’ll be somewhere between 10th and 15th in the draft, which put us on borderline of getting a really good player. And we’re still stuck with Kyler.

 

[Totally_Red]

Might as well lose the last two, finish 7-10. Record will be better than last year so everyone can claim improvement while still drafting relatively high. We’ll be somewhere between 10th and 15th in the draft, which put us on borderline of getting a really good player. And we’re still stuck with Kyler.

It is sad to have to hope against hope that Monti pulls a rabbit out of the hat.

It will be interesting to see what happens THIS offseason. The status quo is unacceptable.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It is sad to have to hope against hope that Monti pulls a rabbit out of the hat.

It will be interesting to see what happens THIS offseason. The status quo is unacceptable.

Monti blew the 3rd and 4th pick in back to back drafts. Thinking he’ll make a good pick when there’s actually MORE uncertainty is an exercise in futility.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah he's not playing well but he's a rookie and he'll be fine.

Kyler is in year 6 and has used up all him "maybe next years".

It remains to be seen if he’ll be fine. He isn’t showing a single special trait.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Arizona Rushing

James Conner#6
Kyler Murray#1
Michael Carter#22
Greg Dortch#4
team

CAR	YDS	AVG	TD	LONG
15	117	7.8	1	40
8	63	7.9	1	20
5	18	3.6	0	6
1	8	8.0	0	8
29	206	7.1	2	40

We rushed for over 200 yards and lost. Oof.

 

[BritCard]

They were billed as generational talents?

How is what he was billed as anything to do with him?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I know we all want to bitch about Kyler, and he does deserve it...

But after that idiotic punt penalty they have 1st and 10 at our 48. Not ideal, but not FG range. Defense has a shot to give us a chance.

1. Budda and Collins blindly run themselves out of position giving Hubbard such a huge hole I could have gained yards.

2. Next play, Hubbard blows up both Jalen Thompson and SMB showing he wants it more. Breezes in for a TD.

Absolutely terrible defense most of the game with the worst of all at the most crucial time.

So . . . your ARIZONA CARDINALS!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Maybe, they obviously have the talent to win more and they'll have a much easier schedule but who is going to go to war with Kyler? My point is that I just can't see anyone on this team having faith in Kyler to lead them anywhere.

You’re not wrong about the going to war comment. Players still play hard because they have their own pride in their play and need to get paid. But if you don’t believe in your QB you’re just dead in the water before you begin.

 

[DVontel]

How is what he was billed as anything to do with him?

Yea, you’re being no different than 602 with Kyler.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Kyler may not be a good QB, but his teammates love him. His offense put up 30 today(yes not impressive vs. Carolina but still 30) it's not like he Delhomme's it out there every week. His teammates haven't been doing great either, not all on him. Except Conner of course, he's awesome

You can love a guy and still not believe in him. Happens all the time.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Because he's on track for 800+ yards and 7 TDs and that's not "ass" by any stretch of the meaning. Especially not for a rookie.

It’s not nothing. But it’s not something to consider optimistically.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I'm going to break down this film after Christmas and it's going to shows lots of open receivers missed. It's not Petzing.

You’re probably right. But 2nd and 11 and it’s a run called. That IS petzig.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

We can all say whatever about todays game but at the end of the day, we weren't beating the Rams next week anyway, they're healthier now than the first time we played them. I had a bad feeling about the Panthers because of the way they took the Chiefs to the wire several weeks back.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You can love a guy and still not believe in him. Happens all the time.

Also, where is the proof they love this guy? In interviews? What are they supposed to say about the guy they have to try and win with? Talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words. Do we ever see players rallying around Kyler when he’s down? (Which is a ridiculous thing that have to ask of the players around their QB). Because if any of you have, I sure as hell haven’t seen it.

I’ve seen him, head down, looking like the least inspiring leader of all time. Repeatedly. And no one coming to get him up.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

On the bright side, being eliminated today means it won’t sting so badly when the Rams murder us next week.

That’s definitely on the menu next week. At least cheese and I won’t dish out $$ to go to that game and be embarrassed walking out in cards gear.