Pistons @ Suns Saturday game thread 12-21-2024

Cheesebeef

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Trading KD and book is not only doable, it is rapidly becoming a requirement.

This team is gutless. They are our only valuable assets, every day this goes on they get older and more exposed as players who are fragile non leaders with not enough desire to win.
Yup. Between Book and KD, we can probably get 7 first rounders. Might be able to get a late 1st rounder for Allen/Tyus depending on injuries. Could probably get a couple 2nds at worst for Royce. So now is the time.

Recoup 7-8 first rounders then become a way-station for bad contracts attached to first round picks. Could be looking at 10 first round picks to play with within a year. And yes, the swaps the year with Memphis and Orlando could hurt, but the other years, the swaps are overblown. The Nets and Wizards are two of the worst franchises in the league. If we have to swap with them, we’re still likely landing in the lotto somewhere. And if we have extra picks to play with, they can use those to move up in the draft.

But the bottom line is this team is a rudderless ship, with two big assets who value is only going to decline from here. Bite the bullets and begin anew.
 

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Yup. Between Book and KD, we can probably get 7 first rounders. Might be able to get a late 1st rounder for Allen/Tyus depending on injuries. Could probably get a couple 2nds at worst for Royce. So now is the time.

Recoup 7-8 first rounders then become a way-station for bad contracts attached to first round picks. Could be looking at 10 first round picks to play with within a year. And yes, the swaps the year with Memphis and Orlando could hurt, but the other years, the swaps are overblown. The Nets and Wizards are two of the worst franchises in the league. If we have to swap with them, we’re still likely landing in the lotto somewhere. And if we have extra picks to play with, they can use those to move up in the draft.

But the bottom line is this team is a rudderless ship, with two big assets who value is only going to decline from here. Bite the bullets and begin anew.
I really don't see us getting anywhere near that haul. I have no faith in our GM getting that much dealing from a position of weakness. You have more optimism than me on those first rounders.
 

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Trade Booker and Durant for as many picks as we can, or promising players on rookie contracts, plus bad contracts with picks attached. Have a chat with Beal about possible destinations. Also trade Nurkic asap. No need to prolong this crap. Booker and KD will only have lesser value.

However. Get a new GM (not Isiah Thomas) before tearing it down.
 
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