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  1. Raze

    Welcome Cam Johnson

    It's not that I disagree, it's just that under these parameters fans could never use the word "reach" to describe any player since they don't have access true draft value or each team's player evaluation. We would rest on more solid factual ground if we disallowed the use of the word "reach"...
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    If the Suns get the #1 pick in the draft

    Under this scenario I'd hate to have the #1 pick. There is one aspect that can't be underestimated when being picked #1; how will they hold up under the pressure? Over the years many of the #1 picks have talked about the tremendous pressure they are under to live up to the enormous...
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    2020 Draft

    While this is interesting and all, it pales in comparison to the fact that I was your 10,000th "Like".
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    Grant Riller

    Wow. Just... wow Mainstreet. So you'll do a thread on Grant Riller but NOT on my 3rd round sleeper Arturs Zagars. Zagars is going to light up the G league for like 10 years, just you watch. (Of course, his career will be cut short in his 30's as he'll be playing teenage heartthrob Zack...
  5. Raze

    Welcome Cam Johnson

    Two questions seem to be uneccessarily conflated here: Was Cam Johnson a reach, and is Cam Johnson productive? Was he a reach? From everything I gather, yes he was. It sounds like he could have been had 10 spots back which reduces the value we got at #11. Of course we don't have the full...
  6. Raze

    The 2019-2020 Around the NBA thread

    Gotta say, I'm having fun with the discussion, in spite of the content being from yesteryear. Completely agree that if we switch out Pop for Dantoni that we win titles. Also agree that in Phoenix, D stood for Dantoni and nothing else. Can't agree on the other points. For example: Parker...
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    The 2019-2020 Around the NBA thread

    (I've also found myself in way too many dark Youtube vortexes these past weeks. I'm way too entertained watching The Rock vs Stone Cold, or Best Fan Moments, or Cambodia's Got Talent. But since you brought him up...) I respected Ginobili immensely for his selflessness as a team player and for...
  8. Raze

    The 2019-2020 Around the NBA thread

    True. He's also leading the league in TO's at 4.8pg and has an abysmal A:TO ratio at 1.94 (Ranked #158-ish according to FoxSports). He's also shooting an uninspiring 36.1% from 3 (Rubio is at 35.1%). You are absolutely correct on two-way players. They need to use the GS model to help hide...
  9. Raze

    The 2019-2020 Around the NBA thread

    Man, these guys hate Charlotte. Devonte Graham just went 18.2/7.5 on 37% from 3. I'd put him in the top 5, probably at #4 ahead of Jaren. It'll be nice to see this redone in 5 years when big men have a chance to develop.
  10. Raze

    Toppin VS Amare

    I'll disagree in part as I agree with most of it. That is, Toppin already has something Amare never did: long range game. The new adage is that you can teach shooters to defend, you can't teach defenders to shoot. (Something I've been admittedly been slow to evolve to). Toppin can already...
  11. Raze

    Top 74 NBA players of all time per ESPN

    True, Durant has never done anything on his own. But he did get to prove how good he was without Westbrook for 27 straight games in '13-14 when he went 35.0/7.5/6.3 on 52/40/88 shooting and went 20-7 winning 10 in a row. (I wouldn't call any team stacked when Westbrook is on the floor.) In...
  12. Raze

    Top 74 NBA players of all time per ESPN

    ... and then he wasn't the best player in the next 2 championships, KD was better than him. Granted, Steph still put up gawdy numbers, just not as good as KD. And just to keep us grounded, this discussion isn't IF Steph is an all time great player... he absolutely IS. The debate is who is he...
  13. Raze

    LaMelo Ball

    I assume you mean if we had a top pick or had to trade up to get him. In this draft, picking around #10, Ball would be a low risk/high reward prospect. I don't love the prospect, but I don't love many prospects in this draft. At #10 I'd be giddy at landing him, although I have little doubt he...
  14. Raze

    Top 74 NBA players of all time per ESPN

    Look, I totally understand that top-whatever lists are subjective and ripe for ridicule. We've had are own debates on here about top players, but most people are reasonable. So I usually take everything with a grain of salt, but we're in quarantine so... How in the hell do they have Steph...
  15. Raze

    MJ/Bulls 10-part Docuseries

    My guess is that he'll sit out the last 2 episodes.
  16. Raze

    Suns updates and discussion for the 2019-20 season

    ... not with a ten foot pole...
  17. Raze

    Who should Suns target at power forward?

    It depends if we have a plan to go after a different PG. If JJ thinks he can peel away Van Fleet from Toronto, he could trade Ricky and the 1st to Orlando for Gordon. They need a real PG there and they are risking losing him for nothing. That would simultaneously upgrade two positions for us...
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    Who should Suns target at power forward?

    The best ability is availability. If it bothers you that Booker missed 25% of his games in the last 3 years or Rubio missed 18%, then Lauri will drive you nuts. Lauri has missed 31% of his games in the last 3 years. The last thing this team needs is ANOTHER injury prone guy.
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    Cole Anthony

    Most mocks have him in the top 15 or so. If that is true he is easily my least favorite player in that group. He's not a PG. NOT. He's just another OG that can handle the ball. He doesn't pass, he makes no one better, he plays a ton of hero ball, turns the ball over at an alarming rate...
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    Aaron Nesmith

    I agree. Watching Vanderbilt "play" basketball was awful to watch. In the game I posted above they would often give up on plays, especially on D. They wouldn't commit to rotating all the way through the shot clock. Aaron was guilty a number of times of going through the motions on D. That's...
  21. Raze

    Aaron Nesmith

    Take this for what it's worth, but when I watched his film for the first time I was like, "Dang this kid shoots like Kobe." I mean that literally. There's just something in his shot that is so Kobe like. Not sure how to dissect it. Then I noticed that he wears 24. Then I Googled "Aaron...
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    Saddiq Bey

    This is a high floor prospect. He comes in with an NBA body who knows how to defend and hit open shots. Seems to have high game IQ as well. GREAT 3&D wing prospect. He has a higher floor than Vassell but a much lower ceiling due to his limitations in speed/agility. (Can see him fitting...
  23. Raze

    2020 Draft

    Olson and Zimmerman aren't the most exciting bunch, but they have solid rational takes on prospects, which is exactly what I look for. Good to hear them talking draft. Kevin O'Connor is B-O-R-E-D, BOARD, boored at home. I think this draft is one of the weakest I've seen and agree that there...
  24. Raze

    2020 Draft

    That begs a good follow up question as to which player would make the most immediate impact as opposed to BPA/Need. I think that list starts with Obi and Jalen since we have such a dearth of talent at PF. In fact, only the PF prospects would have a chance of starting and logging significant...
  25. Raze

    Devin Vassell

    He's gonna make a team better with his in game IQ. Purely a 3&D wing prospect though. Even though they are good to have. Looks like he'll be a good role player for someone. Speaking as a Suns fan though, could we really take ANOTHER wing prospect? I mean, I like Vassell, but he's no where...

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