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  1. NastyOne

    Saer Sene Picture

    Same was said about Amare coming out of HighSchool. You can't teach athletic ability and size, but if the player is willing to learn you can teach him the fundamentals of basketball.And the Suns have some great teachers on their coaching staff. But still the big difference between him and...
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    Suns looking to move up?

    They don't have to be our #1 option, we already have Amare and Nash, plus now with Diaw busting out they would only need to come in and be our new garbage man but for way less money. I'm not saying just trade Marion to trade him, cause if all we could get for Marion was cap relief i wouldnt...
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    Suns looking to move up?

    You really think Marion would put up 20/10 on a team where they're relying on him as their #1 option? When has Marion shown the ability to create his own shot with defenses playing him tightly? You think he would succeed in Boston if we traded Marion Straightup for Paul Pierce? Cause then he...
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    Suns looking to move up?

    And thats the reason hes not worth a max contract. If we can replace him with 3 players in a trade, i do it. There are many guys that can put up Marion like numbers in our offense. Maybe they won't rebound as much, but atleast we won't be paying them max money to be our 3rd/4th option.
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    Suns looking to move up?

    Yeah no he wont Even though Marbury isnt great at passing, he is the best PG in the league when it comes to attacking the paint and breaking down a defense. And guess what? That fits Marion perfectly When teams tried to prevent Marbury from getting in the lane, Marion would cut to the...
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    Suns looking to move up?

    So cause we don't go crazy over a big game choker that can't dribble or shoot, we're not Suns fan? When you think of guys making 15+mil a year, you think of guys that can takeover a game like Wade and Dirk are doing in the finals. Not guys that totally rely on his PG finding him for wide...
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    Suns looking to move up?

    Agreed, Suns fan overvalue Marion way too much. Hinrich is one of the best young PGs in the NBA, and Nocioni really opened some eyes with his first round performance this year. That would be way to much to trade considering Marion is a product of the Suns system, and hes always played with...
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    Suns looking to move up?

    You guys are talking about Nocioni or Deng replacing Marion, i dont see it that way though. If we traded Marion for Deng/Nocioni and the #2 pick, i expect us to take Adam Morrison,Andrea Bargnani or Rudy Gay. Deng/Nocioni would probably come off the bench.Probably Deng cause Chicago really...
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    Marion UnHappy in Phoenix?

    Big difference is Barbosa was a bench player subbing in for a injured player. No way would we last an entire season with two PG's in our already small lineup. Jason Terry/Devin Harris & Cassell/Mobley/Livingston and every other dangerous backcourt would murder us night in and night out. We...
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    Marion UnHappy in Phoenix?

    Well i disagree While Iguodala is younger than Marion, hes not even close to being the same caliber player yet, and Shawn is now in his prime years. So if im Philly and i know i can't get rid of AI and Webber, i might as well build around them. Marion would be the perfect garbageman for...
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    Marion UnHappy in Phoenix?

    Very true about alot of their writers, but Steve Kyler doesnt really fit into that group. Heres his bio at the bottom of the page. Steve Kyler is the lead NBA analyst for Basketball News Services; in addition he serves as Senior Editor and Publisher of HOOPSWORLD.com, SWISH Magazine and is...
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    Marion UnHappy in Phoenix?

    None of those deals are attractive I would want Jameer Nelson from Orlando if we sent them Marion. And we can't trade Marion with Thomas to Philly cause unless we take back Webber or Iverson the cap numbers wouldnt work.We would be sending them about 25mil in contracts and they dont have the...
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    NBA Draft Measurements

    I can guarantee that Shelden Williams doesnt have a great wingspan. Being a Duke fan that has watched him his entire career, his arms arent that long.The reason he blocks alot of shots and rebounds well is because he has great timing. He will be another name on the long list of great college...
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    Marion UnHappy in Phoenix?

    I just can't see them rebuilding They would have to give Iverson away to a team under the cap for players on their rookie contracts, and no one in their right mind would trade for Webber, so they're stuck for a couple more seasons. And even though Iguodola is a good player, his upside is...
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    Marion UnHappy in Phoenix?

    Thinking it over, Both Philly and Orlando both could put together packages i would move Marion for. Philadelphia - Igoudala and Dalembert (We would also have to take Korvers contract and someone elses just to make it work) Orlando - Nelson,Milicic and Turkoglu But i can't see a trade with...
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    Marion UnHappy in Phoenix?

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_17616.shtml MARION TROUBLE:The Suns had an impressive year – no question about that – the oddity is that despite improved numbers, touches and an increased role – Shawn Marion may still be unhappy in Phoenix. An informed source near the Suns says that Shawn...
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    NBA Draft Measurements

    Saer Sene really has great size, 6'11 238 and hes about 19-21 years old (But who really knows with no birth records) I really want him with one of our picks. With our coaching staff he should learn how to shoot in no time. Also, I think Shelden Williams probably will fall into the late...
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    Insider - Chad Ford's Mock Draft, Version 2: Picks 1 to 30

    We really need to come out of this draft with a backup for Nash. #21 - Rajon Rondo or Sergio Rodriguez #27 - Saer Sene or Marcus Vinicius And hopefully we can pickup a late second rounder and grab Hassan Adams or Eric Hicks as a energy player off the end of the bench. But we must come...
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    The Garnett Breakdown - Is it Worth an extra 15 - 30 Million Dollars?

    No it wouldnt, we have other trade pieces that we can move for KG. A healthy Amare has more trade value than KG because of his age and dominance when healthy.
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    The Garnett Breakdown - Is it Worth an extra 15 - 30 Million Dollars?

    We're so close to our first title, now isnt the time to be talking about moving allstars for cap relief and young unproven players. We might not ever be this close to a title again, can't blow it just to save some cash.
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    The Garnett Breakdown - Is it Worth an extra 15 - 30 Million Dollars?

    Sarver better, Cause Amare/Nash/Garnett/Diaw isnt just a championship squad, thats a potential dynasty on his hands. A team like that can win multiple titles and might dominate for the next 3-5 years.
  22. NastyOne

    The Garnett Breakdown - Is it Worth an extra 15 - 30 Million Dollars?

    If they move KG i don't think they want any big contracts at all. Minnesota would want to rebuild, and you can't do that by moving KG for a max player. Suns and Wolves would have to get a third team with caproom involved where that third team would send young good players to minny and we...
  23. NastyOne

    Suns Offseason Trade Speculation Thread

    Read back a couple of pages... The trade i proposed was a three team deal where our #27 pick,Kurt Thomas & Marion went to Toronto and Minnesota got Charlie Villanueva,Morris Peterson,Raps number one pick and ATL future first rounder from us, while also getting rid of Mark Blounts Contract(He...
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    Suns Offseason Trade Speculation Thread

    Blount isnt horrible, hes just horribly inconsistent. One night he scores 20+ points or grabs 10+ boards next night he takes the dayoff. Same was said about Tim Thomas though. Who knows what coming to Phoenix would do for him.
  25. NastyOne

    Suns Offseason Trade Speculation Thread

    Kurt Thomas most likely won't even be a starter next year with Amare returning. Diaw will probably be next to Amare in our frontcourt. So we would be replacing one bench player at center with another bench player at center. And why would that matter to us since both KG and Amare would log...

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