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    Gambo Says Rosen Not Popular in Locker Room

    If this is true, Gambo is a douche for leaking it right now instead of waiting until Rosen is traded. If it's false, Gambo is a douche for making stuff up. Either way, Gambo is a douche.
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    Rosen supporters.....plead your case

    I'm not convinced he is, but I'm also not convinced he isn't. There's a few reasons why I'm not all in on Murray. He wasn't put in a position to succeed last year, he was set up to fail. And he did fail. Call me old fashioned, but I believe in putting players in a position to succeed before...
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    Most Unpleasant Month Leading up to the draft since....

    More likely, we'll see opposing fans dominating the crowd again.
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    Kliff Kingsbury says Cardinals not sure at #1 pick with 48 hours to go

    I imagine the league strongly prefers teams handle it this way as it's better for ratings if there's suspense over the top pick.
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    Kliff Kingsbury says Cardinals not sure at #1 pick with 48 hours to go

    I take these statements to mean "we desperately hope someone will offer us a kings ransom for the #1 pick so we haven't made our minds on who we're taking because we are hoping to not be picking #1 but don't know where we will be picking if a trade happens." I don't take them to mean "if we pick...
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    That's fair. I think it's a little overly pessimistic though. Drew Brees 1st 2 full seasons as a starter his completion % was 60 and 58% respectively. He's been above 64% every year since and above 70% the last 3 years. Rothlisberger is a weird one, his 1st year was 66%, 3rd and 5th years were...
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    How do you define his ceiling though? Do you think his limitations are physical? Are they mental? Mechanical? What specific things in his game do you think are unfixable? Or do you simply not believe he's the type of player that will put in the time to improve by much?
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    What Have I Got Against Murray?

    Harry, were there any comments about his personality or in general how he's handled the pre-draft process? Not doing any drills, refusing to meet with some teams, seemingly letting his dad and his agent make most decisions for him etc.?
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    Yeah I am definitely concerned about Rosen, but I don't know how anyone can, with a straight face, ignore the context and just cite the league average statistics from last year as if Rosen was in league average circumstances. It's not surprising though, as we live in an age of statistics but...
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    Yeah Rosen did have it bad, as did Darnold and Allen who's season numbers were barely any better than Rosen's, yet their teams and fanbases aren't looking to give up on them after 1 year. Maybe in your mind they should be and you may be right, time will tell.
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    Was the expectation for a rookie QB on a bad team to make league average though? That seems like setting yourself up for disappointment. Most rookie QBs are below league average on most stats, historically. Especially ones on bad teams vs ones on good teams. That's no excuse, but it is context.
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    The numbers I have say Allen was worst (Rosen was 2nd to last). It's not good, but I think contextually, he was "pressing" a lot because we were generally trailing by multiple scores and had no choice but to go for the big play. Doesn't really excuse the number though.
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    Just for clarity, time to throw measures how quickly the QB got rid of the ball, not how much time they had to get rid of the ball. It's not a measure of OL protection but of how quickly the QB got rid of the ball. Not saying you don't know that but I thought the clarity was warranted anyway.
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    You can spout off all the stats you want. Stats without context is a fools errand. And I will freely admit Josh had a bad year. But I just wish you'd admit that his year was made worse by what was around him than say, Baker Mayfield's year was.
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    That literally didn't prove me wrong. What that is saying is if he did everything right (expected to be) he would have completed 59.5% of his passes. Whereas CJ Beatherard and Derek Carr who had the best expected completion percentage would have completed 68% of their passes if they did...
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    His being lowest means that the % of time that the WR was open was lower than anyone else's. I work in sports statistics and I'm telling you that this stat is saying his WRs gave him less help than anyone elses.
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    Having the lowest expected completion percentage means he had less help than any other QB in the NFL. It's not a perfect situation for a QB it means he had the worst situation of all QBs in the NFL.
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    My Worst Draft Nightmare

    My worst draft nightmare has already happened. We got the #1 pick and Keim is in charge of making it.
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    Shameful Bit of History

    Whether or not Rosen is a bust and whether or not Murray will be good are 2 separate questions though. If the anti-Murray stuff is legit and he ends up being a bust as well because of it, then it will be a mistake to take him. If your reason for wanting to take Murray is just that you have no...
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    Exactly. They reject the notion that Oklahoma being stacked might possibly inflate Murray's college numbers and also reject the notion that the mess that was our offense last year might have been the main reason Rosen couldn't produce.
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    It didn't seem to translate to the Redskins. I think this kind of epitomizes my argument. Smith on the Chiefs with their talent and Reid coaching sets a record. It's almost like QB performance is majorly impacted by what's around them. Don't tell that to the Murray crowd though.
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    Cool, that doesn't make their methodology worthwhile. Also doesn't say anything about what Murray will be as a pro.
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    A vote for Quinnen Williams

    In their own abstract, they say that it's the first attempt to measure win replacement in football and that it's highly context-dependent to even attempt to do so. Point being it's a statistic with no established merit so I don't care how many wins above replacement they think Mahomes is. Case...
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    Brett Kollmann video on Kliff Kingsbury's offense in the NFL

    Quick WRs definitely seem important but my take away was that the WRs need to be "smart" as they are constantly being asked to read the defense and adjust their routes on the fly.
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    What Does Kyler Murray Really Want? - SI Article by Robert Klemko

    Question but has KK said anything negative about anyone yet? I can't find any examples. Clearly KK loves Kyler but even if he hated his father, I doubt we'd ever hear anything but positive coming from KK about him.

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