'05 Dbacks Trade Rumors/Deadline Thread

[KingLouieLouie]

Well.. with the trading deadline vastly approaching along with the Dbacks being confused whether or not they're contenders (buyers) or pretenders (sellers) it will be interesting to see what will materialize between now and the deadline...

If you hear any rumors regarding the Dbacks, please feel free to post them under this thread.....

Here are some recent rumors that I've come across:

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=94707&format=&page=2

The Angels, Diamondbacks, Devil Rays and Padres are believed to be among the teams interested in Alan Embree, who must be moved within the next eight days after being designated for assignment on Tuesday.

Embree could be that "left-handed specialist" that the Dbacks have been in dire need of for the entire season.. would certainly be a major improvement over the likes of Almanza, Choate, and Lopez... I know that of course that isnt saying much though....

I also read where the Dbacks had expressed an interest in the Royals Jimmy Gobble, but dont know which player they would have to part with to acquire him....

The Dbacks have been such an enigma this year and playing in a division that obviously that every team refuses to take the lead makes matters more baffling.....

I wouldnt be shocked to see either Hairston or Cintron gone before this month is over.....

 

[green machine]

I wasn't an Embree fan his first stint with the Dbacks, and frankly, I don't see the need for a left handed specialist. I just want pitchers who can get outs, regardless of their handedness.

 

[spikecop02]

Send Bruney to the sox For Embree

 

[Espo]

I wasn't an Embree fan his first stint with the Dbacks, and frankly, I don't see the need for a left handed specialist. I just want pitchers who can get outs, regardless of their handedness.

There is a need for a lefthander see as we don't have any lefties in the bullpen. Almanza was the last lefty in the pen and they cut him to make room for Worell. Plus there arent any great lefties in triple-a to call up. I don't like Embree but he fills a need.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Apparently, the Diamondbacks thought about trading guys like Counsell and Clark had they lost the series to the Pads last week.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/print...,0,6595163.column?page=2&coll=ny-sports-print


Also, the Dbacks are trying to get the Yankees (who are desperate for a CF) to take Jose Cruz.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Apparently, the Diamondbacks thought about trading guys like Counsell and Clark had they lost the series to the Pads last week.

Also, the Dbacks are trying to get the Yankees (who are desperate for a CF) to take Jose Cruz.

Counsell and Clark are having career years that they will likely never duplicate. Had they fallen out of contention, selling them at their peak value would've been the best course of action. Counsell is starting to show signs that he'll go back to the mediocre player he has always been.

I'd give up Cruz Jr. for a bag of balls at this point. It wouldn't shock me if he was DFA'd if we could not get anyone to trade for him.

 

[green machine]

There is a need for a lefthander see as we don't have any lefties in the bullpen. Almanza was the last lefty in the pen and they cut him to make room for Worell. Plus there arent any great lefties in triple-a to call up. I don't like Embree but he fills a need.

But if a pitcher, regardless of what hand they throw with can't get anybody out, who cares? Reason lefty specialists are even around is because there are so few that can get the job done consistantly...and the Dbacks have wasted time with guys like Almanza, Javier Lopez, Mike Meyers and Randy Choate, and that's just recent memory. I'd rather have guys like a Valverde or a Cormier (and so far Medders) who get guys out. Period.

 

[Espo]

We need a lefty and Embree has a track record of being able to get guys out, just having a rough time of it this season. Lefties are in the game because they have distinct advantages in certain situations. Managers and general managers know so and thats why teams like the dbacks go through guys like Almanza and Lopez to find a guy who is capable of being a lefty specialist.

 

[green machine]

We need a lefty and Embree has a track record of being able to get guys out, just having a rough time of it this season. Lefties are in the game because they have distinct advantages in certain situations. Managers and general managers know so and thats why teams like the dbacks go through guys like Almanza and Lopez to find a guy who is capable of being a lefty specialist.

But if you can't find a good one why keep wasting your time and possibly games with guys who can't get it done? Yeah, teams are always looking for one because if you have a good one, then they are very valuable. But the guys that end up available (especially on waivers) rarely get the job done.

 

[Espo]

But if you can't find a good one why keep wasting your time and possibly games with guys who can't get it done? Yeah, teams are always looking for one because if you have a good one, then they are very valuable. But the guys that end up available (especially on waivers) rarely get the job done.

At this point this team is in desperate need. Might as well try anything because its better than nothing. I mean hell the right handers in the pen can barely get people out.

 

[green machine]

At this point this team is in desperate need. Might as well try anything because its better than nothing. I mean hell the right handers in the pen can barely get people out.

But why are they in desperate need? Because they don't have a lefty specialist? I haven't seen a situation where the team has failed because they didn't have a lefty in the pen. Why not just throw the pitchers who get outs on the mound?

Before it was imperative for the Dbacks to try because at least in the NL West they had to deal with guys like Green, Bonds, Helton, and Klesko. Now they only have to worry about half that group.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

We need a lefty and Embree has a track record of being able to get guys out, just having a rough time of it this season. Lefties are in the game because they have distinct advantages in certain situations. Managers and general managers know so and thats why teams like the dbacks go through guys like Almanza and Lopez to find a guy who is capable of being a lefty specialist.

The Angels have one of the best bullpens in baseball and no lefty so it's not exactly a requirement. However we do need someone that can get LH batters out no matter what arm he happens to throw with.

 

[Espo]

But why are they in desperate need? Because they don't have a lefty specialist? I haven't seen a situation where the team has failed because they didn't have a lefty in the pen. Why not just throw the pitchers who get outs on the mound?

Before it was imperative for the Dbacks to try because at least in the NL West they had to deal with guys like Green, Bonds, Helton, and Klesko. Now they only have to worry about half that group.

Have you watched this bullpen if there is a guy who can get the job done ive yet to see him, with the exception of Medders thus far. This team is going nowhere and fast and the bullpen is driving the bus. Its the problem throughout the organization. They don't have pitching.

 

[green machine]

Have you watched this bullpen if there is a guy who can get the job done ive yet to see him, with the exception of Medders thus far. This team is going nowhere and fast and the bullpen is driving the bus. Its the problem throughout the organization. They don't have pitching.

Oh, believe me, you'll never hear me claim that this bullpen isn't a problem. I just don't see the lack of a lefty being their doom the rest of the year.

 

[Espo]

There lack of lefty isnt gonna be their doom its poor pitching in general and if a guy can come in and be a solid pitcher, especially left handed, then bring him in. I feel Embree could help.

 

[az240zz]

not to disagree with all of you but I don't think its all the fault of the bullpen. The Dbacks lead the majors in runners left on base. The fact is they don't drive in runs and their situational hitting is horrible. This team should be scoring 5 to 7 runs almost every game.
the bullpen wouldn't be under as much preasure if they would score runs. The G machine just isn't getting the job done, especially Gonzo and Glaus. these guys should have 60 to 65 RBI's already and neither are at 50.

That's the teams problem and until they get someone to step up and drive in runs they will never get to a 500 wininning %.

az240z

 

[Mojo]

I do believe Glaus has 60 and both Gonzo and Green have over 50 RBIs

 

[Gnomad]

The internet is a powerful research tool.

Glaus has 61, Gonzo and Green both have 53, Clark has 51, and Tracy has 40. there's your top 5. 51 RBIs for not being a starter.... Pretty damn good, I'd argue.

Everyone else is 33 or under, and that's where the problem is.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Florida reportedly has shown a little interest in Matt Herges. I dont know why they would be interested in the bullpen scraps of the Diamondbacks of all teams.


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-marl26jul26,0,7822857.story?coll=sfla-sports-headlines

 

[overseascardfan]

Just a thought but if Burnett and Schmidt do not get traded, would the Red/White Sox, Minnesota or Baltimore be interested in Ortiz. If we could get McCarthy from the White Sox or Arroyo from the Red Sox or Bedard from the Orioles I would make any one of these swaps.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Just a thought but if Burnett and Schmidt do not get traded, would the Red/White Sox, Minnesota or Baltimore be interested in Ortiz. If we could get McCarthy from the White Sox or Arroyo from the Red Sox or Bedard from the Orioles I would make any one of these swaps.

Russ Ortiz is untradeable. Not only does he currently suck (and getting worse), he's injured and and has an enormous contract with three years remaining on it. We would probably have to throw in Conor Jackson to get anyone to take Ortiz off our hands.

 

[AZZenny]

AAAAARRRRGGGGGHH! Don't even SAY that in jest! Joe actually does that kind of stuff -- That's how we lost Capuano - to persuade Milwaukee to take Counsell's and Spivey's over-paid contracts!

Ortiz is untradeable, Glaus is untradeable, and Green is almost certainly untradeable. Likewise Estes, Gonzo, Cruz. NO ONE ELSE IN BASEBALL WOULD PAY THE KIND OF DOUGH FOR THE LENGTH OF TERM THE D-BACKS DID! That, plus 4 out of the 6 are injured - unless we're willing to pick up nearly all the salary, we're stuck with them, and we're absolutely not going to get anything worth having in return.

 

[ajcardfan]

Russ Ortiz is untradeable. Not only does he currently suck (and getting worse), he's injured and and has an enormous contract with three years remaining on it. We would probably have to throw in Conor Jackson to get anyone to take Ortiz off our hands.

I really wasn't too excited about any of the free agent signings this year. But Ortiz was easily the worst decision.

 

[az240zz]

The internet is a powerful research tool.

Glaus has 61, Gonzo and Green both have 53, Clark has 51, and Tracy has 40. there's your top 5. 51 RBIs for not being a starter.... Pretty damn good, I'd argue.

Everyone else is 33 or under, and that's where the problem is.

I stand corrected. Thank you for the correct figures.

az240z

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Florida still talking about Herges?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-mdeal27jul27,0,3504415.story?coll=sfla-sports-headlines