09 Playoffs- Mavericks Vs Nuggets

[Ronin]

Nuggets lead the series 1-0
Big Game for the Mavericks.
Kenyon Martin has been fined $25,000 for his foul on Dirk

 

[Ronin]

Second Quarter

Mavericks 31
Nuggets 37

Dirk 14 points
J.R. Smith 14 points

 

[nashman]

This may be a very short series! IF the lakers make it past the Rockets they will be tired from a long series and the Nuggets could be a very tough opponent as they can play pretty aggressive D and score in bunches. My dark horse for the finals! Billups trade is the best trade this past season as far as flat out making Denver a contender.

 

[TBaslim]

Yup. It might all come together for Denver this year - at least enough to be a really tough out for the Fakers or the Cavs.

It's funny - Denver has really bounced around the last few years. Some talented players, but not a lot of bball smarts and lots of injuries. The Billups trade was brilliant for them, along with getting their big men healthy. They can run on offense, play good defense, and have some serious thug attitude to bang as the playoffs get rougher.

Smart, experienced coach in Karl, some superstar talent in Carmelo, a level-headed playoff leader in Chauncy, and a deep bench with big bodies and athletic shooters.

Pretty good playoff mix. Be fun to see how far they can take it.

I'd love to see them go all the way, just to shut up the NBA media's Laker/Cavs obsessions.

 

[95pro]

dirk's got some domestic problems, huh.
its his business, i hope it stays that way.

 

[Ronin]

Carmelo......wow
Howard and Cuban going nuts at the refs.

 

[slinslin]

On the one hand, if you want to intentionally foul, make it obvious and force the ref to call it.
On the other hand, a foul is a foul... NBA refs suck.

 

[Darth Llama]

It's always a shame to see a playoff series essentially end as the result of a bad call. It was a foul, it should have been called. Now instead of going for the tie at home in the next game, the Mavericks are facing certain elimination. Terrible that the NBA continues to let this happen.

 

[Gee!]

It's always a shame to see a playoff series essentially end as the result of a bad call. It was a foul, it should have been called. Now instead of going for the tie at home in the next game, the Mavericks are facing certain elimination. Terrible that the NBA continues to let this happen.

That is unless Luke Waltons foot crosses the line.. **** Mr holier than thou..Go back to LA..

 

[Renz]

On the one hand, if you want to intentionally foul, make it obvious and force the ref to call it.
On the other hand, a foul is a foul... NBA refs suck.

That was a pretty weak attempt at an intentional foul. The defender held his arms up like he was trying not to get called.

If I was the ref I probably wouldn't have made the call either.

 

[Proteus]

It's always a shame to see a playoff series essentially end as the result of a bad call. It was a foul, it should have been called. Now instead of going for the tie at home in the next game, the Mavericks are facing certain elimination. Terrible that the NBA continues to let this happen.

There were still over 3 seconds left in the game when the foul occurred though. That's plenty of time to get off a good shot attempt.

 

[D-Dogg]

On the one hand, if you want to intentionally foul, make it obvious and force the ref to call it.
On the other hand, a foul is a foul... NBA refs suck.

On that other hand, the refs have to know the context of the game...that a team is up 2 and has a foul to give...and they are going to use that foul.

I feel bad for Dallas fans right now.

 

[O]

I feel bad for Dallas fans right now.

 

[elindholm]

It's absurd that officials are supposed to be mind-readers and make calls based on whether the players expect or want them to. If it's a foul, call it. If it's not, don't. End of story.

 

[D-Dogg]

This is true (foul is a foul) but the refs should know that with a foul to give, they should be on the lookout for the foul that is going to come 99 percent of the time and not to be looking at a shooters feet when the guy is getting fouled.

Idiotic refs.

 

[devilalum]

Carmelo......wow
Howard and Cuban going nuts at the refs.

Seeing this highlight made my day. I hate Cuban and the Mavs.

 

[elindholm]

the refs should know that with a foul to give, they should be on the lookout for the foul that is going to come 99 percent of the time

So now the refs should be making calls based on assumptions about coaching strategy?

 

[cly2tw]

I believe the refs have the option not to call every foul as they see favorable to the team fouled?

Anyway, I really like Kidd now more than when he was with Suns or even with Nets. He understands perfectly what "less is more" means and doesn't dominate the ball and only tries to take over when other options dry out. This way, he also seems to have more energy for defense.

 

[elindholm]

I believe the refs have the option not to call every foul as they see favorable to the team fouled?

Officially, no, they don't have that option. But in practice, sure, officials make snap judgments all the time about how to manage the ebb and flow of the game by calling fouls or not.

 

[dodie53]

mavs got screwed imo.

 

[D-Dogg]

So now the refs should be making calls based on assumptions about coaching strategy?

Wow, you just like to argue regardless of any matter. Good to know.

I said the refs should know the context of the game, and that players will be very likely to be intentionally fouling in that situation, and to be aware. That ref was not aware...he was looking down at Melo's feet the entire time, not looking for the foul that was most likely going to come.

Yes, refs should be making calls WHEN THEY ARE THERE based on their knowledge of the game of basketball and what coaches would do in certain situations. If you don't want that kind of referee in place, you don't want a good referee. I guess you have your desire then, because the league is chock full of bad to terrible refs.

 

[elindholm]

Yes, refs should be making calls WHEN THEY ARE THERE based on their knowledge of the game of basketball and what coaches would do in certain situations.

I disagree. Their "knowledge" of "what coaches would do" should not enter into it.

I guess you have your desire then, because the league is chock full of bad to terrible refs.

If the referee is looking in the wrong place, then yes, that's a mistake. But it's a mistake of looking in the wrong place, not of disregarding the game situation. If your referees feel like they have to pick and choose which violations to look for depending on the score and clock, then you need more referees, not better mind readers.

 

[Lorenzo]

dallas is simply overmatched in this series. It's almost like the shoe is on the other foot(from the SA/Dal series). Denver is running dallas right out of their shoes. outside of dirk dallas is getting nothing at the offensive end from the other guys. the mavs need a face lift this offseason(in the scoring dept). because dirk is playing well.

the officiating in game 3 was terrible from start to finish. They called every touch foul for 3.5 qtrs...then swallowed their whistles down the stretch despite obvious contact. Wright fouled the guy 2wice. Once again inconsistency seperates NBA officiating from every other sport. That is always their problem. Just call it the same from start to finish.

 

[dodie53]

where do you guys think Kidd will end up next season?

 

[Lorenzo]

where do you guys think Kidd will end up next season?

IDK. Dallas brass says they want him to stay. Kidd says he wants to play for a team that has a chance to win a ring. Maybe cleveland is his desirable stop, but who knows. I think he has done well for dallas, but the mavs lack dribble penetration at the guard position. and unfortunately when they booted harris their offensive burdons went straight to dirk to bail the mavs out in cases in terms of the half court setting. everything goes through 41 in the halfcourt. he needs help.