10 thoughts - Jets game

[Gandhi]

I’m on record that Thompson should be the odd man out. Cutting Thompson with a post 6/1 designation adds $10 mil to available cap with only $3.5 dead money.

I hope not, as I think the secondary has been a very positive surprise, and I would like to keep them all together for some years. That said, if one of Budda Baker or Jalen Thompson needs to move, so there is space for DTD, I certainly hope it will be Thompson. Bakers are way too valuable. Much more than most safeties around the NFL.

 

[Gandhi]

Of course. But you have to play with the “Cards” you have in your hand!

Yes, you are right, but I also don’t think the approach will change, even if one, two or three new front five players are added. Gannon swears to a zone defense that will give up the shorter gains but prevent the big ones. I doubt that it will change, though it hopefully will be more effective.

 

[QuebecCard]

6 & 7 were merely a matter of Benson & Taylor-Demerson getting a decent amount of reps. Both are NFL starters and great pics. I’m on record that Thompson should be the odd man out. Cutting Thompson with a post 6/1 designation adds $10 mil to available cap with only $3.5 dead money. Browning is a great (not just good) athlete. I have faith the Cards’ coaching can make him an impact player but perhaps as a role player.

Safeties are hard to scout.

We have three, two proven.

The actual Dead money is $3.5m in 2025 and a further $3.5m in 2026.

Cutting one that has value on the open market to save a bit of Cap space when you have plenty is, in a word, dumb (IMO).

 

[CardNots]

Safeties are hard to scout.

We have three, two proven.

Cutting one that has value on the open market to save a bit of Cap space when you have plenty is, in a word, dumb.

To me, if we let Jalen go or trade him there must be someone else not in the current discussion who the coaches are high on.

 

[slanidrac16]

Yes, you are right, but I also don’t think the approach will change, even if one, two or three new front five players are added. Gannon swears to a zone defense that will give up the shorter gains but prevent the big ones. I doubt that it will change, though it hopefully will be more effective.

I really believe our focus will be on the front seven in free agency and draft.

 

[Gandhi]

I really believe our focus will be on the front seven in free agency and draft.

I sure hope so. I think that is by far the biggest need. Actually, I feel fairly good about all other units.

 

[BACH]

I sure hope so. I think that is by far the biggest need. Actually, I feel fairly good about all other units.

I agree. Not Perfect, But No Big holes. Add another Big body DT and elite pass rushing skills.
Zaven is Actually rated really at OLB Per pff. Only problem is that he is close to elite run support and coverage, But has a really low rating in pass rush

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I really believe our focus will be on the front seven in free agency and draft.

I hate to say this, but if somehow a lockdown-type CB1 fell into our lap, well...

Because GWill is playing the slot/nickleback, which is fine, but that means we have SMB and STV as CB1/CB2. I'm not sure we can make a deep playoff run with those two getting the majority of the snaps (I guess maybe we'll see this year).

Maybe Melton is a starter, maybe not. It still looks iffy to me.

 

[slanidrac16]

I hate to say this, but if somehow a lockdown-type CB1 fell into our lap, well...

Because GWill is playing the slot/nickleback, which is fine, but that means we have SMB and STV as CB1/CB2. I'm not sure we can make a deep playoff run with those two getting the majority of the snaps (I guess maybe we'll see this year).

Maybe Melton is a starter, maybe not. It's still looks iffy to me.

Melton is definitely a starter and only going to get better. STV is the odd man out.
But nothing would help this defense more than to be able to create a pass rush with 4 guys.

 

[phillycard]

Did Hasson Reddick play? I literally do not recall seeing him at all.

 

[CardNots]

I hate to say this, but if somehow a lockdown-type CB1 fell into our lap, well...

Because GWill is playing the slot/nickleback, which is fine, but that means we have SMB and STV as CB1/CB2. I'm not sure we can make a deep playoff run with those two getting the majority of the snaps (I guess maybe we'll see this year).

Maybe Melton is a starter, maybe not. It still looks iffy to me.

I’d take another lockdown CB.

I like Melton more and more as the season progresses.

 

[Gandhi]

But nothing would help this defense more than to be able to create a pass rush with 4 guys.

I think that is very true, and it has always been my preferred philosophy. I know there is another popular approach where you build up a very strong secondary, because that will help the pass rush, but I don’t like it. I prefer to build up the trenches. It looks like Darius Robinson will come back soon, but even so, if they can add two or maybe even three very good front five-players, the defense could be very good next season.

Having said that, if the best defensive line-prospects in the draft gets taken before they are up, I would not be mad if they take a top CB.

 

[BirdGangThing]

they went after melton for a good minute - till he got mad

 

[CardNots]

they went after melton for a good minute - till he got mad

must be more here than i can figure

 

[BACH]

Did Hasson Reddick play? I literally do not recall seeing him at all.

I have a hunch that Reddick Will land here. Monti were in discussions. Couldn’t happen due to the poison pill in the Trade terms from Eagles.

Makes all the sense. Team has the Cap space for a short Big deal.
Reddick joins the coach that got most out of him.
Team on the rise.
Reddick as a Veteran to pair with the Young group of pass-rushers. Would have to assume that Monti Will add DL in the first.

 

[Redsz]

I have a hunch that Reddick Will land here. Monti were in discussions. Couldn’t happen due to the poison pill in the Trade terms from Eagles.

Makes all the sense. Team has the Cap space for a short Big deal.
Reddick joins the coach that Got most our of him.
Team on the rise.
Reddick as a Veteran to pair with the Young group of pass-rushers. Would have to assume that Monti Will add DL in the first.

Yup, the broadcast also showed them having a good chat post game.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Yup, the broadcast also showed them having a good chat post game.

That would be tampering if they actually discussed him coming to AZ. Most likely they were just catching up. Now he could have said love to play for you again coach. To which coach says that would be awesome...

 

[BACH]

That would be tampering if they actually discussed him coming to AZ. Most likely they were just catching up. Now he could have said love to play for you again coach. To whick coach says that would be awesome...

He was allowed to seek a trade from the Jets.

In that specific moment - yes.
But there 99,999% was a conversation 2 weeks prior to that interaction

 

[WisconsinCard]

He was allowed to seek a trade from the Jets.

In that specific moment - yes.
But there 99,999% was a conversation 2 weeks prior to that interaction

Maybe but we'll never know. When he was allowed to seek a trade they still would only be able to speak with his representation. Plus after he redid his deal with the jets that was over and he a player under contract.

 

[slanidrac16]

Reddick is not coming here.

 

[oaken1]

Reddick is not coming here.

I tend to agree. this staff seems committed to the youth movement and an undersized over aged pass rusher does not fit the bill.
I would not hate it if we signed him short term. Just do not think it is going to happen

 

[BACH]

I really believe our focus will be on the front seven in free agency and draft.

Front 7 Or OT is draft focus IMO

 

[BACH]

I tend to agree. this staff seems committed to the youth movement and an undersized over aged pass rusher does not fit the bill.
I would not hate it if we signed him short term. Just do not think it is going to happen

I’m thinking Reddick in a SMB role. Pay the man What he wants But on a 2-3 year contract in order not to mess up the Cap long term.
McBride Will get paid the off-season. Garrett Williams the following season.

 

[Stout]

That would be tampering if they actually discussed him coming to AZ. Most likely they were just catching up. Now he could have said love to play for you again coach. To which coach says that would be awesome...

Tampering? This team? Never

 

[WisconsinCard]

Tampering? Every team? Never

FTFY