1998 Flashback

[Dan H]

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Who cried at the end of this game? I know I did.

 

[Capital Card]

I have this game on VHS, but sadly, no longer have a VHS player. Need to get it copied over to DVD.

Seeing Pat running around making plays... very nostalgic.

 

[Dan H]

Download it off of YouTube, quality should be just as good.

Man I hated the Cowboys back in the day . . . now they're just pathetic LOL.

 

[FrustratedFan04]

The best play of the game was the shovel pass for a TD which caught Dallas completely by surprise.

 

[jmt]

Great moment but OMG what we had to live through after that!

 

[Russ Smith]

Great moment but OMG what we had to live through after that!

Yeah fun game but the aftermath was nearly as bad as the 84 team falling apart from drug use.

the big contract to the star young QB thinking the players would rally around him and instead they all wanted big money too. Lomas Brown and Jamir Miller were the 2 that broke my heart. Went to a crappy team strictly for money.

 

[NJCardFan]

Yeah fun game but the aftermath was nearly as bad as the 84 team falling apart from drug use.

the big contract to the star young QB thinking the players would rally around him and instead they all wanted big money too. Lomas Brown and Jamir Miller were the 2 that broke my heart. Went to a crappy team strictly for money.

That's because Bidwill didn't want to resign them. Remember, Larry Centers was cut loose as well. That defense was pretty much broken up after that season. Then we ended up losing Rice and Swann and Wadsworthless had his injury woes. Amazes me what might have been with that team had the Bidwills actually put some heart into it.

 

[Russ Smith]

That's because Bidwill didn't want to resign them. Remember, Larry Centers was cut loose as well. That defense was pretty much broken up after that season. Then we ended up losing Rice and Swann and Wadsworthless had his injury woes. Amazes me what might have been with that team had the Bidwills actually put some heart into it.

I don't want to rehash the whole thing but Miller ended up taking less money from Cleveland than he'd rejected from us. he wanted a blockbuster deal, recall his agent was saying he wanted "Ray Lewis money." He was a very talented kid but he wasn't Ray Lewis. The Cards made him a fair offer, he rejected it, hit the open market, got no good offers and came back begging to the Cards. We'd already signed someone else so we made him a lesser offer and he took I think 1 million from Cleveland. He got paid more the next season.

Brown took a deal in part because he owned part of the parking concession in Cleveland, they apparently did that as part of their "wooing" of him.

 

[wa52lz]

That's because Bidwill didn't want to resign them. Remember, Larry Centers was cut loose as well. That defense was pretty much broken up after that season. Then we ended up losing Rice and Swann and Wadsworthless had his injury woes. Amazes me what might have been with that team had the Bidwills actually put some heart into it.

Not quite, the Browns drove up w/ a truck load of expansion money and all sorts of off the record promises, parking concessions, front office job, and he took the money and ran. Of course after one year the Browns realized he wasnt worth 3.25 million and let him go.

Brown signed a three-year deal worth $10.75 million deal, with a $3 million signing bonus - plus a provision that Brown will be the first player introduced at Cleveland's home opener next season.
"Any time that you are able to add a Pro Bowl player to your roster, you have made a significant addition to your football team," Clark said. "Lomas will solidify our offensive line, which we are extremely pleased with."
Brown admitted it was difficult to leave Arizona.
"I know what I'm doing is a hard step. It wasn't just about money," said Brown, 36, a 14-year pro who wanted to move closer to his business interests in Detroit.
A fixture at left tackle with the Cardinals the last three seasons after 11 with the Lions, Brown reconsidered his decision to join Cleveland on Tuesday. Arizona offered a $2 million signing bonus and a two-year deal said to be about the equal of Cleveland's first two years, but with more money for the coming season.

Miller ended up w/ Cleveland in May for less money then we ended up giving Fredrickson, after he made it clear that he didnt want to play in our system, he wanted to rush the passer. He turned down multiple offers from the Cards and generated very little interest on the market. That is why he ended up on a one year deal in CLE after the draft, after being on the FA market for 2 months.

 

[wa52lz]

Centers was overpaid by us at the time, which pains me to say, he went from making $3.25 million with us, to $825k w/ Washington.

 

[BIGRED1959]

I know that was many moons ago, but Bill Bidwill is getting very old.... Id love it if he could hold up just one lombardi before the times comes..

 

[Dan H]

I can't get too torn up about Bidwill not being able to spend money like crazy, that was before they had the enhanced revenue from the new stadium. Say what you will about the effectiveness of Graves and Ferguson, they have never been accused of being cheap after moving into UPS.

Plummer regressed big time the following season . . . 9 TDs and 24 picks. Despite having three pretty solid wideouts in Sanders, Moore, and Boston.

 

[Russ Smith]

I can't get too torn up about Bidwill not being able to spend money like crazy, that was before they had the enhanced revenue from the new stadium. Say what you will about the effectiveness of Graves and Ferguson, they have never been accused of being cheap after moving into UPS.

Plummer regressed big time the following season . . . 9 TDs and 24 picks. Despite having three pretty solid wideouts in Sanders, Moore, and Boston.

The thing was the 98 season was the one year you could NOT blame Bidwill for just being cheap. They made Jake an offer midyear, he verbally accepted it but his agent convinced him to wait. After the season the offer was MUCH bigger. The old Bidwill would have traded him or made him hold out furious he didn't stick to his verbal but they had of course told him we're going to wait until after the season. He had a playoff win and wanted more and Bidwill gave it to him.

He just didn't expect that half the good players on the team would expect large raises too. That team stays together it might be pretty good going forward, but it fell apart because the players got greedy.

Miller probably worse than any of them complaining he couldn't get sacks the way we played him. his first 2 years in Cleveland he had 9.5 sacks total, it wasn't until his last year there he got 13 sacks.

Now I will say this, the way his career ended, ruptured achilles, you get why players are greedy. But again he got less money from Cleveland that first year and had he taken our offer he probably would have ended up ahead. He wanted huge money and didn't get it.

 

[Dan H]

Yeah. I think we would have been much better off if Plummer had ever developed the way we all expected him too, as well. But he pretty much plateaued and ended up losing his job to Jay Cutler of all people.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

An awesome part of that is hearing a very underrated broadcast crew led by Mike Patrick...The old ESPN Sunday Night crew was really good, IMO.

 

[Blotto]

An awesome part of that is hearing a very underrated broadcast crew led by Mike Patrick...The old ESPN Sunday Night crew was really good, IMO.

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