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OLBer
Ht 6-2 Wt 246
School Texas A&M
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40 yard dash: 4.53
Arm Length: 33½
Hand Size: n/a
Reps on Bench w/ 225lbs: 21
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine-top-performers/09000d5d81e892ba/Top-Player-of-Day-3-Von-Miller
(These kind of gatherers show a person how subjective scouting is.)
What's your take?
Vitals
OLBer
Ht 6-2 Wt 246
School Texas A&M
POST COMBINE UPDATE w/ numbers!
40 yard dash: 4.53
Arm Length: 33½
Hand Size: n/a
Reps on Bench w/ 225lbs: 21
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine-top-performers/09000d5d81e892ba/Top-Player-of-Day-3-Von-Miller
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http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/olb/von-miller.shtmlNFP said:An undersized pass rusher who does the majority of his work from a two-point stance. Possesses a great first step and has the initial burst to consistently threaten the edge with his outside speed rush. Is routinely one of the first defensive linemen moving off the ball and really maximizes his initial burst with his good awareness off the snap.
Plays with a great motor and always seems to be working hard toward the football. Does a nice job dropping his shoulder initially off the edge, really gives opposing linemen a little target to hit and seems to be sinking his hips and frame over more as a senior when trying to flatten out around the edge. However, will get a bit upright at times when just trying to win with his initial burst and can be pushed past the play easily.
He's very sudden and quick when attacking up the field and does a great job working the inside shimmy initially, planting his foot in the ground and exploding up the field. Closes quickly on the quarterback once he gains a step and has the lower body strength to fight his way through contact. Possesses good body control and fluidity when asked to change directions and definitely has some lateral quickness to his game as a pass rusher.
However, he isn't nearly as effective once an opposing lineman is able to get his hands on him, as he tends to lose balance at times and can be easily kept at bay. Lacks ideal power on his bull rush, allows his pad level to get too high and struggles to disengage through the contact. But, he does display above-average strength in his hands and does a nice job extending his arms into blocks, keeping himself clean and suddenly disengaging from opposing linemen when trying to work his way inside initially off the snap.
Impression: An explosive pass rusher who has the awareness and first step to consistently win off the snap. Definitely has the ability to be a productive pass rushing 3-4 OLB at the next level. He just needs to continue to polish his game and learn to use his hands a bit better when engaged. Miller is one of the better linebacker prospects to emerge over the last few years. He has great size, athletic ability and play speed. He is an excellent pass rusher both from on his feet and when playing from a 3-point stance. He has quick hands and shows good ability to use counter moves. His first step and lean coming off the edge are excellent. Because of his size and athleticism, 3-4 teams will look at him as an OLB and some Tampa 2 scheme teams may look at him as a defensive end. He is a player with very good instincts and reactions. He is quick to find the ball and makes a lot of plays in the run game. He is an explosive tackler. When used in coverage, he has a good drop and good receiver awareness plus he has the quickness needed to cover running backs man to man.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1620879sideline scouting said:Positives:Extremely disruptive pass rusher, is great at collapsing the pocket and forcing quarterbacks to step up into quickly closing space and make bad decisions... Has a high motor, is asked to blitz constantly and does not stop pursuing the quarterback until the ball is downfield... Can deliver crushing blows to opposing quarterback if he takes the right angle, tackles through opponents and does not stop at first contact... Very good at wrap-up tackling, begins many tackles at hip level and then maintains force while wrapping legs of ball carrier... Incredible production, had 27 sacks in the last two seasons... Durability has never been questioned, has never dealt with any serious injuries or missed substantial playing time... High-potential player in the NFL if in the right system and in the right role... Similar to Elvis Dumervil in skill set, can line up in many different fronts as a positional pass rusher... Has shown very good speed for his size... May take some time to develop in the NFL, but has a lot of upside and will always find playing time because of intensity and high motor.
Negatives: Often blitzes much too deep off the end, which allows blockers to push him away from the interior of the pocket with relative ease... Needs to develop quicker change-of-direction pass-rushing moves, tends to take a straight line to the quarterback and end up away from the play... Is purely a pass rusher, does not have the bulk or instincts to change directions and get to the ball carrier on draw and counter plays... Looks like a liability at times, can take himself completely out of big plays by not utilizing multiple pass-rushing techniques... Can get sucked up in the line when rushing inside, does not have the upper-body strength or powerful punch to shed larger blockers at the line... Is simply not an every-down linebacker, does not possess the ability to run with tight ends and running backs in coverage... Is not consistent defending the run, gets out of position easily and often loses track of ball carrier... Not a unique athlete, takes a while to accelerate to top speed.
CBSsports said:The highly-touted Texas recruit plays the "joker" position, a defensive end/rush linebacker hybrid spot at which he almost always was standing up at the nine-technique position outside the left or right tackle. Though some scouts will label him a one-trick pony as a pass rusher without great size, the increased use of the 3-4 base scheme in the NFL and his explosiveness off the edge could earn him a high draft slot.
Read & React: Overall instincts for the position, particularly containment and run responsibility and reaction, are questionable since he is primarily used in a "sic 'em" role. Still getting a feel for coverage but reacts quickly when the ball is thrown to the flat. Good feel for pass rush. He sniffs out indecision in the passer and senses weakness in an offensive tackle. Knows when to go for the ball or big hit on to create turnovers.
Run defense: Improving against the run, but must be more consistent to become an elite all-around player. Plays with more strength than expected; is adequate grounding his hold on the move when engaged but does lose his balance. Willing to lower his shoulder against pulling guards to fill inside gaps. Teams take advantage of his continual edge rushing to get a running lane outside. Overruns plays with aggressive angles and a lack of focus on the ball. Crashes down on plays if he senses an inside run, but lacks the explosive punch to knock back fullback or tackle blocks. Inconsistent chaser on the back side, could increase his tackle production with more effort.
Pass defense: Could excel in this part of the game because of his fluidity and quickness, but is still raw in coverage. Mirrors running backs and tight ends off the line into the flat and downfield. Athletic enough to drop deep, keeps one eye on the running back and the other on the quarterback. Is not aware of receivers behind him. Needs to get his hands up to clog passing lanes more consistently when unable to reach the passer. Must improve his hands for the interception.
Pass Rush/Blitz: Greatest area of strength of this stand-up defensive end. Extremely quick around the corner. Gets skinny to penetrate when shooting the inside gap. Elite closing speed to the quarterback, explodes to drive them into the ground or uses his length to wrap up even the most mobile passers. Dips shoulder to get under the pads of taller tackles, shortening the pocket. Feels cut blocks and uses his hands and quickness to beat them. Good arm-over, spin and outside-in change-up moves to get his man off-balance after turning the corner on previous plays. Average strength and hand usage to free himself after initial contact. Might push man off-balance once getting him moving up the field, but too often stopped after his first move when facing opponents with good lateral movement. Capable of leveraging tackles back into the pocket, but lacks great length or bulk to take on massive NFL tackles.
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Really like Reed, but think he'll probably be gone by our 3rd round pick. Maybe one of the other two. Or a trade up into the 2nd round again.
