2011 NBA FINALS: Dallas Mavericks Vs Miami Heat

[Lorenzo]

That is the problem with this series. The series has become about LeBron and his legacy. Screw that. LeBron never was and never will be the best player to play basketball. He is not even the best player on this team. I am sure he will put up huge numbers and end up in the hall but best player ever? No. 7 rings? Right.

Everybody automatically assumed Wade was going to be LeBron's Pippen. Aside from the fact that Wade is in a tier way above Pippen.....it's really the other way around. LeBron is Wade's sidekick. No matter how bad the media and league wants to hype LeBron it's true.

Anybody that thinks that LeBron's legacy wasn't impacted by his stupid decision to play with Wade has not been watching. I don't want to ever see the comparison of LeBron to MJ ever again. One thing that is evident is that LeBron could NEVER have gotten it done with a Pippen. It's been a struggle with someone of Wade's calibur. Pippen sure as hell wouldn't have been enough for LeBron.

I like LeBron but have lost sooo much respect for this guy it's not even funny. Even if the Heat pull this off I am still going to feel like if LeBron had showed up for the majority of the series it wouldn't have been such struggle nor should it have been.

yeah that's why i'm kind of surprised that lebron wanted to team with wade(and vice versa). neither guy is pippen....they are both jordan(using analogy here not being literal). from day one lebron and wade have talked about being equal. and they do everything together to prove the point that they are united.....even mock nowitzki.

but it makes it weird because the media markets lebron like he is jordan and wade is pippen. when wade plays better it makes lebron look bad....or when lebron plays better it makes wade look bad like the chicago series. it just seems weird.

and then bosh? he just doesn't even seem to belong...it seems like wade and james don't include him in anything or that's the way it appears to an outsider. wasn't he supposed to be the guy that had to be part of the deal? yet james and wade have clearly seperated themselves from the rest of their team. I honestly don't know why they paid bosh all that money, when they probably could have used that money to get a lot of good players to support james and wade.


Look the heat can still win this series and I think they will win titles. this isn't me as a mavs fan hating on the heat, just thinking out loud about this like i have from day one. they are phenomenal when you consider the talent collection of the big 3(and that formula has worked in SA and boston of late). and i've been hard on their role players(to me haslem is the only tough guy) but they all shoot 3's which makes them dangerous. hell chalmers is like NBA jam this series...on fire even from halfcourt. if the heat were smart they would pass that guy the ball in the 4th.

I'm not going to bash lebron while he is down because I know he will recover. i think the reason dallas is winning the series is because they are a good team and everyone in the media would rather talk about why the heat are losing instead of just recognizing that dallas is clearly the best team miami has faced as of yet.

 

[Lorenzo]

Look at Donald now.. been MIA.. like Miami.. All of a sudden he comes back and starts talking mess.. No one caes about your lame ass Donlad.. you cant just show up out the blue..

why are there rules on here? I mean you say some of the most foul things on here. what was it that you said before this series started? even worst case scenario if the mavs still lose in 7...it's not like the way you said it was going to be. why don't you repeat it for us to refresh my memory.

if you are ok with dishing that foul stuff....then you shouldn't get as chuck would say "whiny" when donald comes on here and MILDLY attacks you. but I guess we should expect that.

aside from that lebron james is a great player. he chose this when he went to the heat....he knew the stakes were going to be a lot higher. this is part of what comes with it. when he starts winning everything will work itself out. I just hope that is next year.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Everything you posted doesnt mean jack.. You know what I was talkin bout.. ANd if you dont.. Well then.... Your ass woulndt have been rooting for the Heat.. Dont lie to me..

lol... I completely expected this response. why would I expect otherwise when you couldn't even acknowledge that the Heat were mocking Dirk even though there's clear video evidence of it.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Look at Donald now.. been MIA.. like Miami.. All of a sudden he comes back and starts talking mess.. No one caes about your lame ass Donlad.. you cant just show up out the blue..

i do think it's pretty funny that Donald was completely AWOL when LeBron was on top of the world and now is back to gloat when he's looked like crap.

that I'll agree with you on gee... everything else though you look like a complete and utter fool.

 

[Folster]

Oh LOOK! A Laker fan finally showed his face.. And no sir.. go look back thru ASFN.. I been a LBJ fan since he was on the Cavs.. Catch up..

Andrew is that you?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Andrew is that you?

damn... you just hit the proverbial nail on the head. that's EXACTLY what Gee has become. that's awesome.

 

[chickenhead]

I think it's time to break this out again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffJvDgBrwMI

 

[82CardsGrad]

I think it's time to break this out again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffJvDgBrwMI

That's awesome!

FWIW - Suns fan here... and I hope Dirk and the Mavs pound the crap out of the Heat on Sunday!!!

 

[Gee!]

Andrew is that you?

I wasnt aware the andrew picked the Heat because he hates the Lakers and their fans,.. Or that David Stern didnt like the way this team came together.. I dont think Andrew has one shred of wanting to see the NBA become a even playing field.. But hey.. At least you got it off your chest..

 

[desertdawg]

This thread is sooo smacky. I'm glad the Finals are this fun to watch. Every game has a new twist, the way it's going Dirk and the Mavs will have a horrible game in Miami and then the media will run with it.

That would make game 7 probably one of the most watched yadda yaddas.
Stay up GEE! You aint no Andrew, your just rooting for the villain (Lebronny) in this movie, but smack back whoever is what I say.

I want a game 7, and I want the Meat to lose. I'm not too emotionally invested in it but it has become a great series and great TV at the same time. I'm gonna go write some more baby Bron Bron jokes now.

 

[elindholm]

FWIW - Suns fan here...

Are you sure you're on the right board?

 

[Gee!]

lol... I completely expected this response. why would I expect otherwise when you couldn't even acknowledge that the Heat were mocking Dirk even though there's clear video evidence of it.

Because I dont believe they were mocking Dirk.. Mavs fans and their players are emotional and want to think someone is always taking shots at them.. Thats my belief, you have a different one.. Sometimes you have to weed thru the bullcrap when everything is on the line.. Im surprised this board isnt talking about how Rashed Lewis supposedly slept with LeBrons gf and thats why he sucks.. I dont believe that either.. Its all a bunch of crap..

 

[AzStevenCal]

Are you sure you're on the right board?

5/5.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

That is the problem with this series. The series has become about LeBron and his legacy. Screw that. LeBron never was and never will be the best player to play basketball. He is not even the best player on this team. I am sure he will put up huge numbers and end up in the hall but best player ever? No. 7 rings? Right.

Everybody automatically assumed Wade was going to be LeBron's Pippen. Aside from the fact that Wade is in a tier way above Pippen.....it's really the other way around. LeBron is Wade's sidekick. No matter how bad the media and league wants to hype LeBron it's true.
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Wade is clearly more than LeBron. I would dislike to see Miami win the championship simply because LeBron would be out there laying claim to the glory. I agree, LeBron should not be mentioned in the same breath as Michael Jordan.

 

[Lorenzo]

Because I dont believe they were mocking Dirk.. Mavs fans and their players are emotional and want to think someone is always taking shots at them.. Thats my belief, you have a different one.. Sometimes you have to weed thru the bullcrap when everything is on the line.. Im surprised this board isnt talking about how Rashed Lewis supposedly slept with LeBrons gf and thats why he sucks.. I dont believe that either.. Its all a bunch of crap..

dirk didn't like it too much.

 

[desertdawg]

dirk didn't like it too much.

The Rashard rumor?

 

[Gee!]

dirk didn't like it too much.

Of course he didnt.. He's a sensitive lil German that gets his emotions from his owner..

 

[Cheesebeef]

Because I dont believe they were mocking Dirk.. Mavs fans and their players are emotional and want to think someone is always taking shots at them.. Thats my belief, you have a different one..

actually gee, that's your belief and EVERYONE ELSE in the world has a different one... mine.

tell me geenius... if they weren't mocking Nowitizki, tell me, what exactly were they doing when they were coughing and saying "Oh you hear me coughing? I think I'm sick?" were they looking for attention?

Sometimes you have to weed thru the bullcrap when everything is on the line.. Im surprised this board isnt talking about how Rashed Lewis supposedly slept with LeBrons gf and thats why he sucks.. I dont believe that either.. Its all a bunch of crap..

this board isn't talking about it because it's made up crap that can't be substantiated... as opposed to your two heroes being ON CAMERA and acting like douchebags... right before they got their butts kicked.

that's my favorite part of them mocking Dirk... they mocked him... and then he went out and kicked their ass again.

 

[Gee!]

actually gee, that's your belief and EVERYONE ELSE in the world has a different one... mine.

tell me geenius... if they weren't mocking Nowitizki, tell me, what exactly were they doing when they were coughing and saying "Oh you hear me coughing? I think I'm sick?" were they looking for attention?

I find it funny you always tell people to not make it personal yet you just said geenius.. Whatever.. Thats you..

How I took it when they were coughing was they wish they were sick too so they could have a good game the way Dirk did.. I just find it really interesting that the words are inaudible when they play the video of them coughing.. To me its making a story out of nothing..

Im sorry you have money on the line cheese.. Its no reason to act this way .. We still love you..

*grouphug*

 

[chickenhead]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjasiQXhUgq97xkokihvPwE5nYcB?slug=ap-nbafinals-nowitzki-video

Classic!

Wade: “We made a joke out of it because we knew you guys were going to blow it up. You did exactly what we knew.”

It's like a seven year-old looking foolish and then saying "I planned it! You guys fell for it!"

James: “If you guys want to feed into everything that not only myself or D-Wade or the Miami Heat do, I think that’s a non-issue. There’s bigger issues in this series than that.”

Um...if you don't like attention, maybe don't make a circus out of your free agency decision. Maybe don't agree to marketing campaigns that use language normally used with reference to Jesus. Maybe don't suggest 7+ championships and say you're not blowing smoke.

If the Mavs and Mavs fans are over-sensitive, they're not the only ones. But all in good fun--none of this is short on entertainment.

 

[Lorenzo]

Of course he didnt.. He's a sensitive lil German that gets his emotions from his owner..

in all seriousness it is good to see dirk being labled the tough guy for once

the irony is that dwade got hurt the very next game and was trying to play through an injury as well, but wasn't able to be the hero lol maybe he should have brought back the wheelchair. or maybe he was faking? either way he got what was coming to him for making fun of dirk. I like how the reporter asked him how would he like it if jason terry and dirk got caught on type making fun of his hip.

 

[Lorenzo]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjasiQXhUgq97xkokihvPwE5nYcB?slug=ap-nbafinals-nowitzki-video

Classic!

Wade: “We made a joke out of it because we knew you guys were going to blow it up. You did exactly what we knew.”

It's like a seven year-old looking foolish and then saying "I planned it! You guys fell for it!"

James: “If you guys want to feed into everything that not only myself or D-Wade or the Miami Heat do, I think that’s a non-issue. There’s bigger issues in this series than that.”

Um...if you don't like attention, maybe don't make a circus out of your free agency decision. Maybe don't agree to marketing campaigns that use language normally used with reference to Jesus. Maybe don't suggest 7+ championships and say you're not blowing smoke.

If the Mavs and Mavs fans are over-sensitive, they're not the only ones. But all in good fun--none of this is short on entertainment.

they like to dish...but when it comes to answering for their actions it takes them a while or they just blame it on someone else. why didn't wade just man up and say they were making a joke and apologize for it. or better yet say, "i was joking what's the big deal". but of corse not....neither guy will even man up to what they did. they just blame the media.

i think if they would have said they were joking dirk would have probably laughed it off because he is a jokester himself. but dirk is right...they were childish and showed it by avoiding the questions or making up a story like a scared little kid would.

 

[Folster]

If the Heat lose this series, all will be forgiven in my book. If they go on and win a couple championships after this year, I'll be fine with it. A little humble pie will make Lebron a lot more likeable. I'm sure a lot of people will feel the same way.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I find it funny you always tell people to not make it personal yet you just said geenius.. Whatever.. Thats you..

yeah, you kind of took the gloves off in the other thread when you called me a MF'er for no reason, so i responded in kind.

How I took it when they were coughing was they wish they were sick too so they could have a good game the way Dirk did..

all i can is if you really believe this, you're nose is so far up LeBron's butt that you can taste his toothpaste.

I just find it really interesting that the words are inaudible when they play the video of them coughing..

and I find it interesting that you're the only person in the word who can't understand what they're saying... hell, they're even admitting they did it today, trying to cover their asses (because they look like punks AND got punked afterward) by saying they were doing it as a joke on the media. dude's aren't all that bright...

Im sorry you have money on the line cheese..

that's just it gee... i DON'T have money on the line. if they win, i get 250 bucks... if they lose I owe NOTHING. I'm in a win-win scenario here... either they win and i win 250 bones or they lose, i owe nothing and i get to watch one of the greatest collapses of all time... and you look like a fool (or like more of a fool... although I'm not sure that's possible at this point.)

 

[TJ]

If the Heat lose this series, all will be forgiven in my book. If they go on and win a couple championships after this year, I'll be fine with it. A little humble pie will make Lebron a lot more likeable. I'm sure a lot of people will feel the same way.

For you, maybe. But the general populous who despise LeBron, especially those in Cleveland, may never want to see him succeed.

It'll take time for people to be able to swallow the seemingly bitter pill....like when Kobe went through the rape case. Took him years to gain his credibility back with the fans.