2014-15 NFC Wild Card: Lions at Cowboys

[Proteus]

I'm glad to see Romo win. He gets too much undeserved crap from people.

 

[Buckybird]

Actually, the receiver was held (jersey pull) early in the play before either the facemask grab or the PI occurred.

Should have been a defensive holding penalty, automatic first down. And at the least, if you feel the facemask grab should be penalized, the call should have been offsetting penalties, re-play the down.

Instead the ruling and end result was unquestionably advantageous to Dallas!


And while we are at it. . . How stupid is it that rather than using crews that have worked together all season long they piece together an "All-Star" crew??? That is asinine, and begging for problems.

NFL - look at the college game, where they are doing a much better job at getting critical calls correct!

NFL!

And again...how does the refs not call Dez for unsportsmanlike penalty for running onto the field without his helmet screaming at the red for calling a PI? No way that should've been missed!!! Ugh

 

[BW52]

And again...how does the refs not call Dez for unsportsmanlike penalty for running onto the field without his helmet screaming at the red for calling a PI? No way that should've been missed!!! Ugh

I wonder what kind of horse**** excuse the league will give for the flag pickup and the ref failing to flag Bryant for his tantrum?There is no way the league can justify 2 major screw-ups on the same play and the gutless move of picking up the flag.

 

[CardLogic]

And again...how does the refs not call Dez for unsportsmanlike penalty for running onto the field without his helmet screaming at the red for calling a PI? No way that should've been missed!!! Ugh

Yeah, that too!!!

I can't say strongly enough how egregious the officiating was related to that play!

 

[NJCardFan]

Yeah, that too!!!

I can't say strongly enough how egregious the officiating was related to that play!

There were some in the Cincy/Indy game as well which all went in Indy's favor. A huge non-call was on a flea flicker where Tate had 2 guys beat but one flat out buried him and no flag was thrown. The excuse will be that it was an uncatchable call which is bull because had Tate gone unabated, he would have caught it on the fly and probably scored.

 

[Buckybird]

I wonder what kind of horse**** excuse the league will give for the flag pickup and the ref failing to flag Bryant for his tantrum?There is no way the league can justify 2 major screw-ups on the same play and the gutless move of picking up the flag.

You can bet they will get one of those "we're sorry the officials got it wrong" letters sometime monday

Cowpie fans wouldve burned down 's world had the shoe been on the other foot.

 

[Buckybird]

Yeah, that too!!!

I can't say strongly enough how egregious the officiating was related to that play!

How many times have you ever seen a ref throw a flag for PI then say it wasn't when it WAS a catchable pass? I don't recall it happening. It was a BS call nooooo doubt.

 

[PJ1]

How many times have you ever seen a ref throw a flag for PI then say it wasn't when it WAS a catchable pass? I don't recall it happening. It was a BS call nooooo doubt.

Agreed and it was picked up late. It was actually a great example of pass interference for someone that doesn't know what it is. A horrible call.

I would be sick if I was a Lion fan.

 

[BW52]

ref has his explanation for picking up the flag on PFtalk.........................read it and laugh

 

[Lorenzo]

Cowboys did get lucky on that call. In real speed I thought it was a no call but the replay showed clear PI on both parties with a jersey grab by the Cowboys player first. In reality it should have been offsetting or a no call. But the flag was thrown announced and then picked up. So for that reason dallas got a huge break and more times than not the defender gets called there. Another question I have is why is stafford throwing one up for grabs on third and one with a lead late in the 4th? I'm not justifying the no call result just thinking how pissed I'd be if dallas did that in that situation.

 

[Lorenzo]

Feel bad for Detroit and them getting hosed. Felt like us yesterday during the 3rd qtr. Guess NFL wants the bigger markets of Dallas and Carolina. Well, Dallas for sure. Probably didnt want cards in the next round because there would very little chance of an Az win. Ratings.....

I don't see that at all. One phx is a bigger market than Charlotte. and if that theory were even in play(which it is not) carolina does not necessarily have a bigger fan base than AZ. to me this was a poorly officiated game from start to finish and dallas had many game changing calls go against them as well. If Dallas had the refs under their belt then why would they have such a terrible playoff record since 96?

 

[Lorenzo]

Actually, the receiver was held (jersey pull) early in the play before either the facemask grab or the PI occurred.

Should have been a defensive holding penalty, automatic first down. And at the least, if you feel the facemask grab should be penalized, the call should have been offsetting penalties, re-play the down.

Instead the ruling and end result was unquestionably advantageous to Dallas!


And while we are at it. . . How stupid is it that rather than using crews that have worked together all season long they piece together an "All-Star" crew??? That is asinine, and begging for problems.

NFL - look at the college game, where they are doing a much better job at getting critical calls correct!

NFL!

I agree here 100%. These refs sucked and joe and buck(who I hate listening to eventhough I love aikman) made mention before the game how nervous the refs said they were. What the hell is that BS?

There were also other calls in the game that I thought were borderline that went against Dallas. Game changing Plays that were erased.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I detest the Cowboys, their whole organization and fans. It would suit me if they never won another game....EVER.

 

[Iceman]

I don't see that at all. One phx is a bigger market than Charlotte. and if that theory were even in play(which it is not) carolina does not necessarily have a bigger fan base than AZ. to me this was a poorly officiated game from start to finish and dallas had many game changing calls go against them as well. If Dallas had the refs under their belt then why would they have such a terrible playoff record since 96?

It just seemed like there were complete bias calls for Carolina and Dallas. I guess being a fan of the opposing teams can only make you imagine the reasoning behind obvious missed (or non call) penalties. Trust me, I know the refs are human and the game has sped up tremendously and there are going to be missed calls, but the ones like the pick up flag on the PI needs to be correct. Every person (even Cowboys DB's admitted it was PI) knew that they missed it and it changed the outcome of that game. Sadly, the best refs/umpires are the ones that you didn't even know that were there during the game....

 

[Lorenzo]

It just seemed like there were complete bias calls for Carolina and Dallas. I guess being a fan of the opposing teams can only make you imagine the reasoning behind obvious missed (or non call) penalties. Trust me, I know the refs are human and the game has sped up tremendously and there are going to be missed calls, but the ones like the pick up flag on the PI needs to be correct. Every person (even Cowboys DB's admitted it was PI) knew that they missed it and it changed the outcome of that game. Sadly, the best refs/umpires are the ones that you didn't even know that were there during the game....

True. That play did change the course of the game but it wasn't completely over after that play like some are making it out to. Detroit still had the lead at that point. You could just sense the game slipping away from them so I think it seemed like that was their last shot there. But they had the bad punt afterward and the Dallas defense did hold them to just 3 points after halftime. Detroit has issues. Their biggest issue is they are not a running team and for that reason they couldn't hold the lead. They also have had weak special teams all year and that played a part although they caught a break on the running into the kicker play.... This almost looked like a mirror image of at least 10 games that Dallas lost in their 8-8 seasons.

 

[Buckybird]

True. That play did change the course of the game but it wasn't completely over after that play like some are making it out to. Detroit still had the lead at that point. You could just sense the game slipping away from them so I think it seemed like that was their last shot there. But they had the bad punt afterward and the Dallas defense did hold them to just 3 points after halftime. Detroit has issues. Their biggest issue is they are not a running team and for that reason they couldn't hold the lead. They also have had weak special teams all year and that played a part although they caught a break on the running into the kicker play.... This almost looked like a mirror image of at least 10 games that Dallas lost in their 8-8 seasons.

Come on dude we get the homerism but the reality is: if the refs uphold the penalty for PI & enforce the unsportsmanlike on on Dez the balls on the 15yd line & most likely Dallas never wins that game!!!

 

[Lorenzo]

Come on dude we get the homerism but the reality is: if the refs uphold the penalty for PI & enforce the unsportsmanlike on on Dez the balls on the 15yd line & most likely Dallas never wins that game!!!

Again maybe so if they keep that call. But if the refs were really pulling for Dallas like some say... why would they have flagged them for running into the kicker? Didn't that change the game? If they don't throw the flag there that's even less controversial than the one they picked back up on the PI. This theory that refs are paid off is is just that. It's a theory. The fact is they make mistakes and their explanation they give goes back to that crew not being used to working together which is the fault of the nfl. The bottom line is the better team overall won today. I'll admit that i am a homer so I don't expect you to see things my way.

 

[NJCardFan]

The worst part of it, and John Clayton reminded me of it, is that the referee actually announced the penalty before picking it up. I've never heard of that. I thought once it was announced, it stuck right call or not.

 

[Lorenzo]

The worst part of it, and John Clayton reminded me of it, is that the referee actually announced the penalty before picking it up. I've never heard of that. I thought once it was announced, it stuck right call or not.

That is the issue. Had they talked it out and picked it up det fans would have been mad, but that happens a lot now. The fact that he called it and first down then back tracked makes it look terrible. I read the official explanation and the head ref said that he communicated poorly with his officials who were still talking it out when he made the call. Maybe this game will force the nfl to change their playoff protocol of mix matching officials because these crews seem to mess up in close memorable games. Super Bowl with Seattle and Pitt comes to mind.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I was 100 percent convinced that if Detroit threw a long TD pass on the last drive, a holding flag would have been thrown.

 

[NJCardFan]

That is the issue. Had they talked it out and picked it up det fans would have been mad, but that happens a lot now. The fact that he called it and first down then back tracked makes it look terrible. I read the official explanation and the head ref said that he communicated poorly with his officials who were still talking it out when he made the call. Maybe this game will force the nfl to change their playoff protocol of mix matching officials because these crews seem to mess up in close memorable games. Super Bowl with Seattle and Pitt comes to mind.

How about our Super Bowl. There were about 30 penalties alone on the Harrison int return.

 

[az jam]

Dallas at Green Bay is a far bigger draw on national TV than Carolina at Green Bay. It will have the highest rating of the 4 playoff games this coming weekend.

Just being facetious.

 

[JS22]

Dallas at Green Bay is a far bigger draw on national TV than Carolina at Green Bay. It will have the highest rating of the 4 playoff games this coming weekend.

I never understand these types of comments. Do people really think that the league throws games so bigger market / more popular teams advance?

This whole thing would have been much less painful if the refs simply got together for a second before making the announcement. They could have easily picked up the flag and said that there was no penalty for pass interference on the play. But they completely botched the situation.

And nobody seems to be mentioning the facemask by Pettigrew before the alleged PI. Hard to turn around and make a play on the ball when you're being grabbed by your facemask.

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[BW52]

I never understand these types of comments. Do people really think that the league throws games so bigger market / more popular teams advance?

This whole thing would have been much less painful if the refs simply got together for a second before making the announcement. They could have easily picked up the flag and said that there was no penalty for pass interference on the play. But they completely botched the situation.

And nobody seems to be mentioning the facemask by Pettigrew before the alleged PI. Hard to turn around and make a play on the ball when you're being grabbed by your facemask.

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what about the holding and grabbing the jersey by Hitchens before the ball got there? Explain that homer.

 

[Buckybird]

I never understand these types of comments. Do people really think that the league throws games so bigger market / more popular teams advance?

This whole thing would have been much less painful if the refs simply got together for a second before making the announcement. They could have easily picked up the flag and said that there was no penalty for pass interference on the play. But they completely botched the situation.

And nobody seems to be mentioning the facemask by Pettigrew before the alleged PI. Hard to turn around and make a play on the ball when you're being grabbed by your facemask.

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Can you honestly say you've ever seen a PI that was called on an obviously catchable pass overturned? I can't recall one. Tell me you've really witnessed that. Lol

Did they miss the face ask? Yes, but they also missed the most obvious which was defensive holding. How about Dez screaming at the refs in the middle of the field with his helmet off? It's my understanding that would've been enforced regardless of offsetting penalties

The Lions got hosed & it likely cost them the game.