2014 Suns Free Agency

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I'd be fine with Boozer, even though I know he'd wind up spending most of his time at center.
 

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Yes. What's the point of cultivating Dragic as a SF, or Marcus Morris as a center? That's not the path to long-term success. Get players that allow the "keepers" on the roster to play at something resembling a natural position.

At this point the Suns have 96 C and PF minutes per game that they need to staff. There's no way they can come close to that without severe small ball. And if the whole point is to start rebuilding the credibility of the franchise, severe small ball is a huge mistake. I'd much rather see an overpaid, mediocre stopgap PF than playing Tucker in that position. And don't even get me started about the farce that is going to be the center rotation this season.
Slice it however you want Humpheries is not the path to credibility. It is the path to long term mediocrity.

Suns need to keep their powder dry. Even until next summer if necessary.
 

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Honestly, Boozer should only come here cheap, for depth. I don't want him starting. But if you are just looking for cheap depth, why not find some young Euro who might have some promise instead.
 

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FWIW, Boozer has been amnestied. Minimum bid is about 1.4 million to secure him, potentially, if no one else is interested. So we could get him really, really cheap. We could bid 1.4-3 million on him. Only a one year commitment.

As for Humphries, his deal was quite good, and as what's been reported, the 3rd year of the deal is a team option. A 2 year commitment for that little, imo, isn't that much of a risk. No matter, he's gone now.
 

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I won't be pissed or thrilled if the Suns sign Boozer, he likely won't start over Markieff anyhow.

I find it unlikely that the Suns would sign him though. McD wants to keep flexibility and unless Boozer strangely agrees to a 1 year deal, having him here could hamper that. I think the roster the Suns have now is the roster.

I'd suspect Boozer goes somewhere like Charlotte, Atlanta or Milwaukee that wants to project the image of being a winner, being a playoff team, a place that ought to stop being over looked by free agents, etc.
 

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If the Suns sign Boozer, this place will go crazy bonkers with how lame he is.

i think Boozer is dogmeat if you expect him to be a really solid contributor to a team, like a third star or even fourth star, but as depth on a team with very little at PF, he'd be a good get for us (probably Cleveland too).
 

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Isn't there some kind of biding process for amnestied players?
I don't think Boozer is just an UFA.
 

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i think Boozer is dogmeat if you expect him to be a really solid contributor to a team, like a third star or even fourth star, but as depth on a team with very little at PF, he'd be a good get for us (probably Cleveland too).

Ha! Can you imagine Boozer going back to Cleveland (with LeBron there no less) after their history? That would be rich.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1848196
 

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At this point the Suns have 96 C and PF minutes per game that they need to staff. There's no way they can come close to that without severe small ball. And if the whole point is to start rebuilding the credibility of the franchise, severe small ball is a huge mistake. I'd much rather see an overpaid, mediocre stopgap PF than playing Tucker in that position. And don't even get me started about the farce that is going to be the center rotation this season.
Eric, it is a pleasure to say ":thumbup::thumbup:"

The decision the Suns make in that regard is going to shape this franchise for another decade. Will it be the same as the last 4 1/2?

A few of us don't have a lot of decades left. :) C'mon, Suns, do it for us!
 

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FYI

What happens to amnestied players: A player waived under the amnesty clause must go through the waiver process, which lasts 48 hours. During that time, a team can claim an amnestied player by making a full waiver claim and assuming the player's full contract. If no full waiver claims are submitted, partial waiver claims allow teams that have room under the salary cap to bid on the player and acquire him at a reduced rate. The team with the highest bid is awarded the player. If multiple teams bid the same amount, the team with the worst record is awarded the player.
 

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I'd like to see the Suns make a modest offer and if they get him utilize him as an extra body. If he doesn't help he doesn't have to play big minutes.

He's 32, after this year it is possible that he could get one more nice contract for a couple of years if he plays well. Contract year!
 

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I'd like to see the Suns make a modest offer and if they get him utilize him as an extra body. If he doesn't help he doesn't have to play big minutes.

He's 32, after this year it is possible that he could get one more nice contract for a couple of years if he plays well. Contract year!

I don't think he'd come here and I don't think he'd help us much. First off, I don't see a guy looking for "one more nice contract" wanting to play somewhere he's not likely to play big minutes. We have the twins and we have to give them minutes. It's a contract year for them too. Finding out whether we have our starting power forward (and perhaps his backup) is more important than trying to rehabilitate Boozer's career IMO.

I think we have our solutions for power forward minutes already on the roster, it's center I'm concerned about. Unless we're just going to give Len his minutes and live with the consequences, we need another center that is no worse than Plumlee.

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I don't think he'd come here and I don't think he'd help us much. First off, I don't see a guy looking for "one more nice contract" wanting to play somewhere he's not likely to play big minutes. We have the twins and we have to give them minutes. It's a contract year for them too. Finding out whether we have our starting power forward (and perhaps his backup) is more important than trying to rehabilitate Boozer's career IMO.

I think we have our solutions for power forward minutes already on the roster, it's center I'm concerned about. Unless we're just going to give Len his minutes and live with the consequences, we need another center that is no worse than Plumlee.

Steve

Although I wouldn't mind seeing him in here for the right price, I could buy the argument he is one of those guys you bring in when your a few guys away from rounding out your roster to make a run versus a team built like ours today. However, as you stated that doesn't appear to be in the cards if he is looking for one last good contract.
 

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Or they're happy with an "entertaining" team that competes for a playoff spot, and don't feel any strong need to try to move beyond that. Or they're just inept.

I can't see how they can be called inept, surely this is an overstatement? We didn't do much this off season to shore up front court talent but then neither did a lot of teams.

Sure we lost Frye but maybe the heart condition is what scared us off (4 years of 2nd-half-of-last-season-Frye would be a disaster even though I'm more than a little nervous about giving up what he gave to the team, particularly Dragic's true shooting %), but the way I see this unfolding is we pool a bunch of guards this season, let em all pad their stats in small ball and then trade whoever next season once we factor in Dragic's salary (and that includes trading him if necessary).

How we did last season in terms of W's vs L's - and how far ahead of schedule we thougt we'd be - is the main driver of summing up the front office at this point in time, and not too much else, although Len the draft pick is touch and go at this point even though I still like it (but only to the tune of about 70%:30% - down from 90% when we drafted him), and the same goes for Ennis and Warrren.

But if Channing performs well then i'll definitely be annoyed, as considering what's left out there and how much salary cap we've got, we probably could have front loaded his contract to retain flexibility down the track.
 

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I don't think he'd come here and I don't think he'd help us much. First off, I don't see a guy looking for "one more nice contract" wanting to play somewhere he's not likely to play big minutes. We have the twins and we have to give them minutes. It's a contract year for them too. Finding out whether we have our starting power forward (and perhaps his backup) is more important than trying to rehabilitate Boozer's career IMO.

I think we have our solutions for power forward minutes already on the roster, it's center I'm concerned about. Unless we're just going to give Len his minutes and live with the consequences, we need another center that is no worse than Plumlee.

Steve

When you win an amnesty bid, the player has no choice. He is not a free agent. It is like an auctioned trade.
 

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When you win an amnesty bid, the player has no choice. He is not a free agent. It is like an auctioned trade.

You're right, I forgot about the amnesty part. Still don't want him though. I would if he were a backup center, that's our only pressing need IMO.

Steve
 

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Gambo tweeted that we are most likely going to keep Shavlik Randolph as our backup-backup C/PF.
 

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"Assets."

It must really suck to be a Suns fan for you. I fail to see why you and some others here bother? Is this really entertaining for you? I'm not trying to be an ass, I probably am, but it isn't my intent. I honestly don't understand what fans such as yourself get out of it? I don't think of you as some that criticize everything the front office does and see themselves as a superior mind while having close to zero information on why moves are made, so that's why I ask. You seem unhappy with everything this team does, so why do you spend so much of your time thinking about them? You are more than welcome to tell me to go chase headlights, but I think it's a valid question.
 
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