2014 Suns Free Agency

[AzStevenCal]

I wouldn't mind Thornton depending on conditions of 1st Round Pick we'd get for taking his contract...

That would be nice. Unfortunately, it's an expiring deal so I think he's being sought after for his value. Wish we weren't one of the teams that thought he had value. His defense is scary bad and it's hard to play effective team defense with him on the court. He just doesn't seem to understand what to do or where to go.

Steve

 

[Suns_fan69]

Also, didn't Brooklyn already ship off all their 1st round picks to Boston for Pierce/Garnett?

 

[PhxGametime]

I thought I read it'd be 3-way w/ cavs and they are offering 1st Rounder while Jarrett Jack would go to nets. I doubt cavs Pick would go to nets?? Being they are getting decent player in Jack, whoever takes Thornton should get cavs Pick...

 

[AzStevenCal]

I thought I read it'd be 3-way w/ cavs and they are offering 1st Rounder while Jarrett Jack would go to nets. I doubt cavs Pick would go to nets?? Being they are getting decent player in Jack, whoever takes Thornton should get cavs Pick...

Ah, I missed that. I could see a pick being involved if Cleveland was offloading salary although I'm not sure it would come our way. I'll have to take a look at deal you're talking about.

Steve

 

[KloD]

Ah, I missed that. I could see a pick being involved if Cleveland was offloading salary although I'm not sure it would come our way. I'll have to take a look at deal you're talking about.

Steve

The original rumor which I heard reported on draft night I believe, was Nets trading Thorton to Cavs for Jacks. Now this week I'm hearing Cavs want someone else to take Thorton so they don't have any salary coming back so they can sign Lebron to a max. So this new rumor has Cavs throwing in a 1st rounder so a team with cap space will absorb Thorton. If we have the space and the pick is good enough, sure I'll take him for 1 season and than he can go. Can't be worse than Wesley was from Minn.

 

[Ronin]

I wouldn't mind Thornton depending on conditions of 1st Round Pick we'd get for taking his contract...

+1

 

[KloD]

I would just like to say that although I knew the chances of the Suns getting a Lebron or Love this summer were a pipe dream, it has been fun just believing there was a chance. I'm sure this club will ride high again and I've got to believe with the current front office and Sarver seemingly learning from his past and making strides at being a better owner, I don't believe that getting there will take too long. This year may have been setting expectations a bit too high, but when you're rumored to have the opportunities as we have this summer, it sure isn't easy ignoring hope. At this point let's just get out of this off season without any blunders. I hope these young guys have something to show in summer league. We're gonna need them!

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I'm not giving up on Love. And if Minny is interested in Thornton then its another asset we can use at trade deadline or sooner

 

[AzStevenCal]

The original rumor which I heard reported on draft night I believe, was Nets trading Thorton to Cavs for Jacks. Now this week I'm hearing Cavs want someone else to take Thorton so they don't have any salary coming back so they can sign Lebron to a max. So this new rumor has Cavs throwing in a 1st rounder so a team with cap space will absorb Thorton. If we have the space and the pick is good enough, sure I'll take him for 1 season and than he can go. Can't be worse than Wesley was from Minn.

That makes sense. If we don't have better use for our cap this might be a nice way to go. We might even be able to trade him midseason for a second rounder if someone is in need of instant bench scoring.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

Per Marc Stein:

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 2m

My man @Chris_Broussard just reported on @SportsCenter that LeBron's meeting w/Pat Riley could take place in Vegas perhaps as soon as TUES

Hopefully Lebron says I do or I don't. This is dragging on too long.

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine

 

[FutureSuperstar]

Per Marc Stein:


Hopefully Lebron says I do or I don't. This is dragging on too long.

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine

I don't want to read too much into this (OK maybe I will ), but if he was staying w/ the Heat - Why would he have a meeting w/ Riley?

It's kind of like when you leave a job you've been at for a long time and you're close w/ management - If you are staying, you would probably just say that over e-mail / phone (since you'll see that person again) ... You would have a meeting if you were leaving, so you could say it "face 2 face" (since it would be more "serious") ?

I think Lebron is leaving because of this and he just wants the Heat to "hear it first" before the media does ... Because he learned his lesson from 2010 (There was a lot of backlash because the Cavs management was not informed of his decision before the "Decision" show)

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't want to read too much into this (OK maybe I will ), but if he was staying w/ the Heat - Why would he have a meeting w/ Riley?

It's kind of like when you leave a job you've been at for a long time and you're close w/ management - If you are staying, you would probably just say that over e-mail / phone (since you'll see that person again) ... You would have a meeting if you were leaving, so you could say it "face 2 face" (since it would be more "serious") ?

I think Lebron is leaving because of this and he just wants the Heat to "hear it first" before the media does ... Because he learned his lesson from 2010 (There was a lot of backlash because the Cavs management was not informed of his decision before the "Decision" show)

I understand your thought process. However, I'm trying to get out of the mind reading business.

I just want it to be over. What's eerie, is the silence from the Suns FO not that it means anything. I think Miami and Cleveland are the most likely options.

 

[chickenhead]

Well, the thing is that nothing else is moving for the most part because of Lebron, so why would a meeting with Riley have to be about a decision? Maybe he's entertaining a final pitch complete with the results of whatever discussions the Heat gave been having this past week? He probably feels he owes that a face-to-face meeting...

 

[elindholm]

Maybe he's entertaining a final pitch complete with the results of whatever discussions the Heat gave been having this past week?

That's what I figure. The Heat just got Danny Granger on the cheap. Maybe James wants to know what the plan is if he re-ups but Bosh leaves. There are a lot of questions he could want to bring up.

 

[KloD]

Apparently Bosh told Houston he wants to stay in Miami and play with Lebron. He must know something to turn down a max deal and potentially stay with a much degraded team if Lebron were to leave. I think the Suns need to move on and go to plan B whatever that is. Lebron taking his sweet freaking time isn't winning him any fans and it's just supporting the criticism he gets. This has become just about as bad as his last free agent period, just for different reasons.

 

[TJ]

Apparently Bosh told Houston he wants to stay in Miami and play with Lebron. He must know something to turn down a max deal and potentially stay with a much degraded team if Lebron were to leave. I think the Suns need to move on and go to plan B whatever that is. Lebron taking his sweet freaking time isn't winning him any fans and it's just supporting the criticism he gets. This has become just about as bad as his last free agent period, just for different reasons.

Why should he rush to make a decision? He's earned the opportunity to get a max deal AND play for a legit title contender. It's humorous to think that LeBron has never been the highest paid player in any of his teams.

 

[ProdigalSun]

Apparently Bosh told Houston he wants to stay in Miami and play with Lebron. He must know something to turn down a max deal and potentially stay with a much degraded team if Lebron were to leave. I think the Suns need to move on and go to plan B whatever that is. Lebron taking his sweet freaking time isn't winning him any fans and it's just supporting the criticism he gets. This has become just about as bad as his last free agent period, just for different reasons.

I agree. Courting LeBron has been exciting but I'm over it. It's kind of like that feeling you get when you think you have a shot at that girl who is way out of your league who you never thought you had a chance with. Also even if we did somehow land Lebron, we would have to perpetually go through all this angst again in a year about whether he would leave or stay ...No thanks

 

[TJ]

I understand your thought process. However, I'm trying to get out of the mind reading business.



I just want it to be over. What's eerie, is the silence from the Suns FO not that it means anything. I think Miami and Cleveland are the most likely options.

Yeah, I'd like to hear someone like Woj just close this thing by saying, "Suns are out of the running."

 

[Cheesebeef]

Why should he rush to make a decision? He's earned the opportunity to get a max deal AND play for a legit title contender. It's humorous to think that LeBron has never been the highest paid player in any of his teams.

i've seen this posted a couple times, but who was higher paid then LeBron on most of his Cavs teams once he signed his second contract?

 

[FutureSuperstar]

Has Lebron really taken that long? It's been a week ... That doesn't seem like some absurdly high amount of time to make a decision on where to move your family. This happens every year also, no matter who the top FA's are. They always spend a week hearing team's pitches and make a decision early into the 2nd week. It just seems long if you watch ESPN ... Blame ESPN's coverage and their bogus speculation that annoys everyone, not Lebron

No point in giving up and saying "Oh Lebron you waited too long, We don't want you anymore ... Instead we want to sign - oh wait, that's right we can't sign anybody until you make a decision anyway!" - There would be no pt. in moving on, I'm pretty sure everybody the Suns are interested in were told that already (and are waiting too for Lebron ...) ...

 

[hsandhu]

i've seen this posted a couple times, but who was higher paid then LeBron on most of his Cavs teams once he signed his second contract?

ben wallace, then shaq

 

[Cheesebeef]

ben wallace, then shaq

wow. that's ridiculous.

 

[Phrazbit]

i've seen this posted a couple times, but who was higher paid then LeBron on most of his Cavs teams once he signed his second contract?

Larry Hughes was making like 14 mil a year at one point (seriously), Ben Wallace's corpse was there hauling in like 16 mil a year (super seriously), and the Cavs somehow took Shaq off our hands while he was on his 20 mil contract...

With how badly they bungled LeBron's first stay in Cleveland, surrounding him with absolute garbage... and seeing how piss terrible they've been since he left, I am really really surprised he is considering a return.

And that does not even take into account their owner ripping LeBron in that bizarre letter right after "the decision".

 

[Cheesebeef]

Larry Hughes was making like 14 mil a year at one point (seriously), Ben Wallace's corpse was there hauling in like 16 mil a year (super seriously), and the Cavs somehow took Shaq off our hands while he was on his 20 mil contract...

With how badly they bungled LeBron's first stay in Cleveland, surrounding him with absolute garbage... and seeing how piss terrible they've been since he left, I am really really surprised he is considering a return.

And that does not even take into account their owner ripping LeBron in that bizarre letter right after "the decision".

agreed. none of going back to Cleveland makes sense basketball wise. That team has one good player on it in Irving...and a rookie who is probably at least two years away from making an impact. And outside of that, they have a bunch of busts who won't be able to garner another star. throw in the Gilbert of it all and I can't figure out any reason except Bron is from there that he'd go back and completely waste the rest of his prime.

 

[SO91]

agreed. none of going back to Cleveland makes sense basketball wise. That team has one good player on it in Irving...and a rookie who is probably at least two years away from making an impact. And outside of that, they have a bunch of busts who won't be able to garner another star. throw in the Gilbert of it all and I can't figure out any reason except Bron is from there that he'd go back and completely waste the rest of his prime.

It's crazy that they will start 3 #1 picks next year and might still be garbage. 4 if Lebron goes back.