2015-16 Draft Picks to watch...

[slinslin]

Wood wouldn't start Day 1 so he doesn't need to be 250 at the start of the season. Markieff or either a trade acquisition or FA most likely will start next year. Wood oozes with potential and you can't teach size or length as the cliche goes. Portis is more NBA ready in terms of size. I really don't feel Turner would help us. He's too perimeter oriented who like Morris doesn't rebound well despite having the size.

A modern PF has to be perimeter oriented. If not you have to have a C who can do that.
The fact that Myles Turner is 6'11, long arms, defends and hits the 3 is exactly why he is rated highly. Christian Wood is the same case almost.

Btw Turner averages 6.5 rpg and 2.6bpg in just 22 minutes per game, that is pretty good. His rebounding percentage is only 1% lower than Jahlil Okafor.

Christian Wood is a sophomore already and still so skinny

Here are some stats for you

Myles Turner 18yrs
.238 WS/48
16.4% Total Rebound Percentage
27.3 PER
+/- 9.8
30%3s
18th hardest schedule in the country

Christian Wood 19yrs
.179 WS/48
16.6% Total Rebound Percentage
25.2 PER
+/- 5.9
27%3s
102nd hardest schedule in the country

Myles Turner is pretty much the perfect PF for us if he develops into what he is projected to be. The major concern is if his footspeed is too slow to guard PFs well.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If Philly is indeed shopping Embiid, I would be interested in trading multiple picks to get him. He can be a Tim Duncan type of pf I believe.

 

[slinslin]

If Philly is indeed shopping Embiid, I would be interested in trading multiple picks to get him. He can be a Tim Duncan type of pf I believe.

uh no Embiid is not a PF, he is way too heavy for that and he could very well be a bust and has 1 year off his rookie contract already plus think what Philly would want for him...

They want a top 5 pick for him.

Plus he has a screw in his foot.

 

[AzStevenCal]

A modern PF has to be perimeter oriented. If not you have to have a C who can do that.
The fact that Myles Turner is 6'11, long arms, defends and hits the 3 is exactly why he is rated highly. Christian Wood is the same case almost.

Btw Turner averages 6.5 rpg and 2.6bpg in just 22 minutes per game, that is pretty good. His rebounding percentage is only 1% lower than Jahlil Okafor.

Christian Wood is a sophomore already and still so skinny

Here are some stats for you

Myles Turner 18yrs
.238 WS/48
16.4% Total Rebound Percentage
27.3 PER
+/- 9.8
30%3s
18th hardest schedule in the country

Christian Wood 19yrs
.179 WS/48
16.6% Total Rebound Percentage
25.2 PER
+/- 5.9
27%3s
102nd hardest schedule in the country

Myles Turner is pretty much the perfect PF for us if he develops into what he is projected to be. The major concern is if his footspeed is too slow to guard PFs well.

I like Turner a lot but the posters that hate Frye aren't going to feel much better about Myles. He rebounds a little better but he'll have similar problems in the NBA as Channing did/does. With two penetrating guards though he's probably the best fit we could find in this draft. I doubt he's still there when we pick though.

Steve

 

[AzStevenCal]

uh no Embiid is not a PF, he is way too heavy for that and he could very well be a bust and has 1 year off his rookie contract already plus think what Philly would want for him...

They want a top 5 pick for him.

Plus he has a screw in his foot.

Sure he could. But get him healthy, keep him healthy and focused, and he could well be the best big man drafted since Shaq. That's worth a gamble if the price is right. Offer them the 2021 unprotected Miami pick, they should be just about ready to stop tanking by then. Or, more realistically, offer them the twins for Embiid and a draft pick. Maybe they'd pay a premium to bring their local boys home?

Steve

 

[JCSunsfan]

Sure he could. But get him healthy, keep him healthy and focused, and he could well be the best big man drafted since Shaq. That's worth a gamble if the price is right. Offer them the 2021 unprotected Miami pick, they should be just about ready to stop tanking by then. Or, more realistically, offer them the twins for Embiid and a draft pick. Maybe they'd pay a premium to bring their local boys home?

Steve

We could offer them the Laker pi. . . oh yeah, they already have that.

That aside. If you are looking for the moment to pick up a superstar in the rebuilding process, this might be it. I really doubt he will be a bust. He hasn't even played yet.

 

[slinslin]

I would have no problem using a any combination of the Twins, Warren, Tucker, Cleveland pick, Miami pick, Suns pick

to secure Stanley Johnson and Myles Turner in the top 10

Moving up twice is probably too hard logistically so just moving up for Stanley Johnson would be fine for me.

We should add to our core now while they are still young and growing. I like TJ Warren but his game is maybe too unorthodox I think unless you build a team around him.

 

[overseascardfan]

A modern PF has to be perimeter oriented. If not you have to have a C who can do that.
The fact that Myles Turner is 6'11, long arms, defends and hits the 3 is exactly why he is rated highly. Christian Wood is the same case almost.

Btw Turner averages 6.5 rpg and 2.6bpg in just 22 minutes per game, that is pretty good. His rebounding percentage is only 1% lower than Jahlil Okafor.

Christian Wood is a sophomore already and still so skinny

Here are some stats for you

Myles Turner 18yrs
.238 WS/48
16.4% Total Rebound Percentage
27.3 PER
+/- 9.8
30%3s
18th hardest schedule in the country

Christian Wood 19yrs
.179 WS/48
16.6% Total Rebound Percentage
25.2 PER
+/- 5.9
27%3s
102nd hardest schedule in the country

Myles Turner is pretty much the perfect PF for us if he develops into what he is projected to be. The major concern is if his footspeed is too slow to guard PFs well.

So production wise they are similar, one is heavier and stiff, the other is thinner but much more mobile. Also, Wood has a year more of seasoning being a Sophmore. The difference is Wood should be there when PHX is on the clock. PHX would have to give up something to move up for Turner. I would take Wood since he and Turner have similar skill sets and have him go through the same off season training program as Len last year. Len & Wood would be a nice future for the front court.

 

[sunsfan88]

Lakers win again, my god is that draft pick seriously gonna drop out of the top 5 now?

 

[Errntknght]

Denver got a late start but they are tanking like professionals - 1-9 in their last 10. They're only 4 games ahead of the Lakers so they might be able to 'undertake' them at this rate. The good news is that both the 76ers and Knicks won tonight. Minny might overtake the Lakers, they lost to Chi tonight but they're 5-5 in their last 10 - they have enough talent to win some games now that Rubio is back and they're not tanking.

 

[Joe Mama]

Was just checking out the end of this Kentucky game as I was getting back in front of the computer here and it occurred to me. Why is there doubt in any of our minds who we will draft this summer? It's got to be Aaron Harrison in the first round and Andrew Harrison in the second, right? That would give us 5 Kentucky guards and another set of brothers.

Joe

 

[slinslin]

I am currently favoring Myles Turner and Willie Cauley-Stein for the Suns based on need - if possible both of them.

Center and PF are our biggest needs obviously and we need size.

I am not really a fan of WCS because he is already a junior and his raw production is low. But he is very athletic, runs the floor well, is a legit 7' and can guard power forwards.
If he could develop a shooting touch I would love to see him as a 4 alongside Len. We would be amazing defensively.
If he does not develop that way, we still need 2 true centers.

Len/WCS
Markieff/Turner
Tucker/Warren/Marcus
Knight/Bodganovic/Bullock
Bledsoe/Goodwin

Somehow need to solve the SF logjam.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Consistent outside shooting is our greatest need. We could use a 3 and D guy at the 2. Besides that, a true pg, a back up C and a starting pf.

 

[slinslin]

We don't need a true PG at all.

And we should have Bogdanovic coming over at the guard spots also.

 

[JCSunsfan]

We don't need a true PG at all.

And we should have Bogdanovic coming over at the guard spots also.

I am not at all convinced that Bogdanovic will pan out for anything. To count on him to fill a role or meet a need would be a mistake.

 

[elindholm]

I am not at all convinced that Bogdanovic will pan out for anything. To count on him to fill a role or meet a need would be a mistake.

I agree; a legitimate two-way SG would be a great hole to fill, probably the second-ranking need behind PF. Centers are always a need, but you can get yourself stuck in a quagmire for a long time chasing them, so the Suns are better off sticking with Len and figuring out whether he can do the job.

 

[overseascardfan]

I am really starting to like Bobby Portis. He had a pretty good end to his season and looks like a solid prospect. NBA Draft Net has us taking him with our pick, I'd be cool with that.

 

[slinslin]

I agree; a legitimate two-way SG would be a great hole to fill, probably the second-ranking need behind PF. Centers are always a need, but you can get yourself stuck in a quagmire for a long time chasing them, so the Suns are better off sticking with Len and figuring out whether he can do the job.

Bogdanovic is playing extremely well in Europe right now and it is not like we need a guard to play minutes.

Tucker is showing he can play minutes at SG and we still have a rotation of Bledsoe, Knight and Goodwin that should cover most of the minutes. With the log jam at SF it would be a good thing if Tucker plays some at the 2.

Backcourt mpg = 96
Bledsoe = 34 ; Knight = 34 ; Goodwin 20; Bogdanovic/Bullock/3rd string PG 8
SF mpg = 48 = Warren 28; Marcus 20

Not even factoring in Tucker. I think either Tucker or the Twins are the most likely trade bait though clearing the logjam at SF. The problem with trading the Twins is that we now need a starter and a backup.

 

[Catlover]

I am really starting to like Bobby Portis. He had a pretty good end to his season and looks like a solid prospect. NBA Draft Net has us taking him with our pick, I'd be cool with that.

My husband wants him or Turner for our pick. I prefer Lyles, Looney or Kaminsky.

 

[hcsilla]

I am really starting to like Bobby Portis. He had a pretty good end to his season and looks like a solid prospect. NBA Draft Net has us taking him with our pick, I'd be cool with that.

Portis seems to be a duplication of Markieff Morris. He is lankier but also a bit softer and maybe a bit less athletic.

 

[Errntknght]

My husband wants him or Turner for our pick. I prefer Lyles, Looney or Kaminsky.

LTNS, Cat.

I always meant to ask you if your SN means you're fond of felines or you're a UA fan... perhaps both...

 

[Catlover]

LTNS, Cat.

I always meant to ask you if your SN means you're fond of felines or you're a UA fan... perhaps both...

Both. I continue to read the board regularly but I only have a tablet and hate posting from it. I watch the Arizona games but my husband records and watches every NCAA tournament game so I get to steal his Mac this time each year.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Just played the ESPN lottery machine 10 times. In 3 of the 10, two teams jumped ahead of the Lakers, pushing their pick to #6 and giving Philly the #6 pick.

Just sayin.

I think there is a good chance that the Suns would have gotten that pick this year. They could easily become the number 5 team, and then the odds are pretty good someone will jump them.

 

[Phrazbit]

They're 4 wins back of Orlando for the 5th spot with only a dozen or so games left... they're not getting any higher in the standings, the odds are better that they'd move down to 3rd or even 2nd as they're only 1 and 2 wins over those spots.

Them finishing 4th leaves only an 17% chance of the pick getting converted this summer, so IF the Lakers don't get extremely unlucky in the draft then I expect, given their cap space and injury woes, we will have given up something like the 10th-16th pick in next year's draft.

It was a calculated risk, if Knight does not work out, or that 17% chance hits, its a bummer but all in all that is pretty good value for a guy as young and as talented as Knight.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I havent watched much college ball this year. Can Okafor play the pf in the NBA? I hear that he is highly skilled. He sounds perfect for an old-fashioned, Kevin McHale style, pf (even early Tim Duncan). Just wondering.