2015 Mock Draft V 3. ho ho ho

[Bodha]

1- Nate Orchard - OLB - Utah - sacks on sacks. His drivers license lists his permanent address as "backfield".

2- Garrett Grayson - QB - Colorado State. No QB is a sure thing. From what I see, I like him. Accurate, strong arm, good decisions. A character.

3- Senquez Golson - CB- Ole Miss. I love twitchy, aggressive, ultra productive little slot DBs. Jason Verrett Last year. Senquez this year.

4- Brandon Vitabile - C - Northwestern. We need a upgrade a Center. This guy is small(er) school, but highly decorated.

5- Dadi Nicolas - OLB - VT. Lightning fast. Speed rushers are king in this league. This guy is the Flash. But hes slight. Thats why we get him late.

6- Rob Havenstein - OT - Wisconsin. Heres what you do: Take an extremely powerful, subpar Tackle, stick him at Guard- boom, road grading dominant G.

7- Marcus Rush - OLB - Michigan State. His name is Marcus RUSH. Dont ignore the signs.


I tried to have 7 new players for this mock, but Nate was a sore thumb bpa. I cant take Markus Golden #1 if Nate is available. Hes just clearly the best possible pass rusher we can take in late round 1. His draft slot is all over the place depending on where you look. Personally, I made the opinion hes a 1st rounder by looking at his game tape. Much like Bucannon (whos turned into a great late 1st rnd pick), I think Nate is a gem.

We need a young QBOTF. Logan isnt it. And we cant keep taking Qbs in the mid-lates, hoping we get lucky and snag a Tom Brady. You must invest in an early rounder to improve your odds of angling a big fish. 2nd rounder sounds fair to me. Garrett Grayson is a small school guy, but he has all the tools to be a franchise QB. You dont know till you know, QBs are a shot in the dark, but hes my choice.

Golson, Vitabile and Nicolas have gem potential. I dont know which, but I like all of them.

Cliffs:
- 3 pass rushers
- 2 O line
- 1 DB
- 1 Franchise QB

 

[NJCardFan]

I like it. Golson would be a steal late in the 3rd round.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

As for QB, I have been on Carden from E Carolina. However, just yesterday I received a text saying to select another QB and that Carden "was not that hot". He must've scouted him in person recently and came away un-impressed.

With the draft, I think RB has to be in the mix at some point.

 

[Chopper0080]

Nice job. Early mocks are just about creating ideas. I agree with the possible desire to upgrade at QB, C, CB, OLB and OL. I think we have greater needs, and I'm not sure about some of those spots later in the draft, but FA will change a ton for this team.

 

[Catfish]

As for QB, I have been on Carden from E Carolina. However, just yesterday I received a text saying to select another QB and that Carden "was not that hot". He must've scouted him in person recently and came away un-impressed.

With the draft, I think RB has to be in the mix at some point.

It's not so much that I disagree with your RB comment, as it is that I feel that Kerwynn Williams, (teamed with a healthy Andre Ellington), is a real good 1-2 tandem at that position. Both are solid starters. Both are excellent receivers. Both are excellent character people. To me that spells win, win, win!!!

 

[Finito]

I like Cameron Erving from FSU that kid is a monster at C or G in the late first round. Maybe a guy like Kikaha slips due to past injury in the second or an Eric Striker because of his size will be there both devastating OLB

 

[Bodha]

As for QB, I have been on Carden from E Carolina. However, just yesterday I received a text saying to select another QB and that Carden "was not that hot". He must've scouted him in person recently and came away un-impressed.

With the draft, I think RB has to be in the mix at some point.

I was high on Carden for awhile, but ive also cooled. Reports are iffy on him.

Whereas Grayson isnt perfect, his reports are consistently positive. I saw a couple vid of his games and he looks like a steady eddy.

I like Cameron Erving from FSU that kid is a monster at C or G in the late first round. Maybe a guy like Kikaha slips due to past injury in the second or an Eric Striker because of his size will be there both devastating OLB

Erving has been a Center for 9 or so games. While hes done very well, I dont know if I want my NFL Center to have 9 college games to his career at that position.

Kikaha doesnt seem fast enough or strong enough to me. Alot of his sacks fall into his lap. And the injury history also worries me.

I like Striker. Id def take him.

 

[juza76]

I was high on Carden for awhile, but ive also cooled. Reports are iffy on him.

Whereas Grayson isnt perfect, his reports are consistently positive. I saw a couple vid of his games and he looks like a steady eddy.



Erving has been a Center for 9 or so games. While hes done very well, I dont know if I want my NFL Center to have 9 college games to his career at that position.

Kikaha doesnt seem fast enough or strong enough to me. Alot of his sacks fall into his lap. And the injury history also worries me.

I like Striker. Id def take him.

great mock,like first 2 rounds
nicolas is talented but very undersized lb,has to stay 1 more year in college and gettin bigger.

about striker which position u see him playing at pro?

 

[Bodha]

about striker which position u see him playing at pro?

Situational OLB.

Hes a smidge bigger than Deone. He used to be a safety, in fact. I see his value as being a pure pass situation pass rusher + special teamer. Extremely fast, can pair up with Bethel and help our special teams coverage.


Personally, despite being undersized also, I think Dadi Nicolas has the ability to be a starter. His run D is respectable enough. His value is as a pass rusher. I dont know how he is in coverage.

 

[Chopper0080]

I was high on Carden for awhile, but ive also cooled. Reports are iffy on him.

Whereas Grayson isnt perfect, his reports are consistently positive. I saw a couple vid of his games and he looks like a steady eddy.



Erving has been a Center for 9 or so games. While hes done very well, I dont know if I want my NFL Center to have 9 college games to his career at that position.

Kikaha doesnt seem fast enough or strong enough to me. Alot of his sacks fall into his lap. And the injury history also worries me.

I like Striker. Id def take him.

The reason I would not be shocked if the Cards took a C like Erving is if they feel he brings a physical element that we are lacking. IMO, the reason the Cards would take a C in the draft would be if they want that specific ability.

 

[Chopper0080]

Situational OLB.

Hes a smidge bigger than Deone. He used to be a safety, in fact. I see his value as being a pure pass situation pass rusher + special teamer. Extremely fast, can pair up with Bethel and help our special teams coverage.


Personally, despite being undersized also, I think Dadi Nicolas has the ability to be a starter. His run D is respectable enough. His value is as a pass rusher. I dont know how he is in coverage.

Both of those players would be ILBs in our base defense.

 

[Chopper0080]

It's not so much that I disagree with your RB comment, as it is that I feel that Kerwynn Williams, (teamed with a healthy Andre Ellington), is a real good 1-2 tandem at that position. Both are solid starters. Both are excellent receivers. Both are excellent character people. To me that spells win, win, win!!!

I believe if the Cardinals add a RB in the offseason, it is to add a more physical player in the run game, and a more physical pass blocker on 3rd down. Jeremy Langford out of Michigan St. is a name I would look for in the 3rd or 4th round of the draft.

 

[Bodha]

The reason I would not be shocked if the Cards took a C like Erving is if they feel he brings a physical element that we are lacking. IMO, the reason the Cards would take a C in the draft would be if they want that specific ability.

Erving would be the only real overpowering C available in this draft. The highest rated Cs are Hroniss Grasu and Reese Dismukes, neither are overly powerful. Both are good technicians. So youre putting yourself in a corner where Erving is the only choice if they purely want a dominating run blocker in the middle.

In which case he would be a good pick, but I srsly worry about his lack of experience at Center. Centers run the line and make all the calls. He might have the muscle, but whos to say he has the smarts or leadership.

Id like to see him play 1 full season at C first. His flexibility as an emergency tackle is very appealing, however.

 

[Chopper0080]

Erving would be the only real overpowering C available in this draft. The highest rated Cs are Hroniss Grasu and Reese Dismukes, neither are overly powerful. Both are good technicians. So youre putting yourself in a corner where Erving is the only choice if they purely want a dominating run blocker in the middle.

In which case he would be a good pick, but I srsly worry about his lack of experience at Center. Centers run the line and make all the calls. He might have the muscle, but whos to say he has the smarts or leadership.

Id like to see him play 1 full season at C first.

Like I said, if they take a C, I believe they will take Erving because he is the only guy who offers something different. I don't believe they will, but it is a possibility with where they will be drafting.

 

[overseascardfan]

Like Bohda's draft but mine would go:

1 - OLB Nate Orchard - Fills a big need without having to trade up.

2 - CB Marcus Peters - Cro is gone, Peters slides in. HB & PP keep him in line. Talent outweighs risk IMO.

3 - QB Bryce Petty - QBOF, very productive. Not a big arm but arguable 4th best QB in draft behind Marriota, Winston & Hundley.

4 - ILB AJ Tarpley - Need to add a ILB as Foote will probably not be back and Washington's status uncertain

5 - DE Harry Anderson - 3-4 DE size with some pass rush skills.

6 - C Jake Smith - Sendlein is getting old and Smith could replace him soon.

7 - RB Malcolm Brown - 220 LB RB to complement AE.

ARZ could add another pass rusher and OL depth if they can get DD & Fitz to restructure and free up some cash.

 

[juza76]

Like Bohda's draft but mine would go:

1 - OLB Nate Orchard - Fills a big need without having to trade up.

2 - CB Marcus Peters - Cro is gone, Peters slides in. HB & PP keep him in line. Talent outweighs risk IMO.

3 - QB Bryce Petty - QBOF, very productive. Not a big arm but arguable 4th best QB in draft behind Marriota, Winston & Hundley.

4 - ILB AJ Tarpley - Need to add a ILB as Foote will probably not be back and Washington's status uncertain

5 - DE Harry Anderson - 3-4 DE size with some pass rush skills.

6 - C Jake Smith - Sendlein is getting old and Smith could replace him soon.

7 - RB Malcolm Brown - 220 LB RB to complement AE.

ARZ could add another pass rusher and OL depth if they can get DD & Fitz to restructure and free up some cash.

1)no chance
this organization will not draft a player who tried to strangle his own coach

2)i dont think this is the right ranking about qbs

 

[Krangodnzr]

I would really like to add Shaq Thompson. He would be the perfect fit for what we are using Deone Bucannon for.

Dynamic, speed LB who can cover, blitz, and force turnovers. I think he would be special in our scheme, and would produce 7 sacks, 3 ints, and a few TDs every year from him alone.

 

[kerouac9]

I would really like to add Shaq Thompson. He would be the perfect fit for what we are using Deone Bucannon for.

Dynamic, speed LB who can cover, blitz, and force turnovers. I think he would be special in our scheme, and would produce 7 sacks, 3 ints, and a few TDs every year from him alone.

He's too small to play ILB in the NFL. He looks like a safety. ESPN.com lists him at 6'1", 228, and generally teams overstate the size of their student-athletes.

To be successful in the NFL, he'll have to gain 15-25 lbs of muscle without losing that speed that makes him special, and that just doesn't happen.

Also, he's a one-year starter. If he were so good, why wasn't he able to get on the field earlier for a terrible program like Washington?

/2010

 

[Chopper0080]

He's too small to play ILB in the NFL. He looks like a safety. ESPN.com lists him at 6'1", 228, and generally teams overstate the size of their student-athletes.

To be successful in the NFL, he'll have to gain 15-25 lbs of muscle without losing that speed that makes him special, and that just doesn't happen.

Also, he's a one-year starter. If he were so good, why wasn't he able to get on the field earlier for a terrible program like Washington?

/2010

Shaq Thompson

Winner of the Paul Hornung Award
Butkus Award Semi-Finalist
Walter Camp Award Semi-Finalist

2014 First-Team All-America (ESPN, CBS Sports, scout.com, SB Nation)
2014 All-Pac-12 First Team (at both LB and AP/ST)

2014: Winner of the fifth annual Paul Hornung Award, given to the nation's most versatile player ... named first-team All-America by ESPN, CBS Sports, scout.com and SB Nation ... named a Midseason All-America by ESPN, NFL.com, CBS Sports and Phil Steele ... listed as the national defensive player of the year by three of six writers on CBS Sports panel ... has scored six touchdowns in 2014, two as a running back and four on defense (one interception return and three fumble returns) ... named first-team preseason All-America by Athlon ... made SI.com's preseason All-America second team ... also named to the preseason watch list for both the Bedarik (top defensive player) and Paul Hornung (most versatile player) Awards ... has started each of the Huskies' games this season ... made four tackles, all solo, in the season-opening win at Hawai'i ... notched 15 tackles, incluiding a sack, and also forced a fumble in the victory over Eastern Washington ... also had three carries for 66 yards, including a 57-yard touchdown run, vs. the Eagles ... named the national defensive player of the week by the Walter Camp Foundation and Athlon's following two-touchdown performance vs. Illinois ... scored on a 36-yard interception return and on a 52-yard fumble return vs. the Illini, when he also had four tackles and three carries for 16 yards ... the first Husky on record to have scored two defensive touchdowns in the same game ... served as a game captain vs. the Illini ... made five tackles vs. Georgia State ... scored third defensive touchdown (and fourth TD overall) vs. Stanford, returning a fumble (that he forced) 32 yards for a score ... also had seven tackles, including one for a loss, and forced another fumble vs. the Cardinal ... scored on a 100-yard fumble return in the win at California, where he was a game captain ... one of just four 100-yard plays in UW history (others were a punt return by Hugh McElhenny and kickoff returns by Paul Arnold and John Ross) ... also had a game-high 11 tackles against the Bears ... named the National Defensive Player of the Week by Athlon, as well as Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Week, following the Cal game ... seven tackles at Oregon ... played mostly running back vs. Arizona State, gaining 98 yards on 21 carries ... also caught two passes for 15 yards vs. the Sun Devils ... started at tailback at Colorado, rushing for 174 yards and touchdown on just 15 carries (an 11.6-yard average) ... also had two receptions for 41 yards vs. the Buffaloes ... named the team's offensive player of the game after the win in Boulder ... made a second straight start at tailback, but also saw a good deal of action on the defense, vs. UCLA, when he was a game captain ... rushed for 100 yards on 16 carries vs. the Bruins, while also notching four tackles ... played only on defense and special teams at Arizona, finishing with three tackles ... served as a team captain for the Oregon State game, when he finished with five tackles ... made five tackles in the Apple Cup win at Washington State ... shares the national lead (with Danny Shelton) for fumble recoveries with four.

2013: Played in every game and started all but the Apple Cup (when UW opened in nickel) at linebacker ... honorable mention All-Pac-12 ... picked up the team's Chuck Niemi Big Hit Award ... notched nine tackles in the win over Boise State ... four tackles, including half of a sack, in the victory over Illinois in Chicago ... made a season-high 13 tackles in the win over Arizona ... team-high tackles at Stanford ... six tackles, one of them for a loss, vs. Oregon ... six tackles, all solo, at Arizona State ... six stops in the win over California ... made six tackles, including two tackles for loss, at UCLA ... scored on an 80-yard interception return in the win at Oregon State, where he also had four tackles ... notched six tackles in the Apple Cup win over Washington State ... recorded eight tackles in the Huskies' win over BYU in the Fight Hunger Bowl.

2012: Earned honorable mention All-Pac-12 ... named second-team Freshman All-America by FoxSportsNext.com ... picked up the Travis Spring Most Outstanding Freshman award at the team banquet ... started at nickel back in first college game in season-opener vs. San Diego State ... started every game at nickel... had three tackles vs. the Aztecs ... also had three stops in a start at LSU ... had seven tackles, including one for a loss, vs. Stanford ... had eight tackles and an interception in the game at Oregon ... five stops in the USC game ... also had five tackles at Arizona ... six tackles, including a sack, in the victory over No. 7 Oregon State ... made seven tackles, two for loss, and had a crucial, late interception that he returned 33 yards in the win at California ... six tackles, including one for loss, in the win over Utah ... had a tackle and also intercepted a pass in the Husky win at Colorado ... collected eight tackles, including a sack, and also recovered a fumble (returning it 21 yards) at Washington State ... recorded eight tackles in the MAACO Bowl vs. Boise State.

HIGH SCHOOL: Named first-team All-America by rivals.com, Parade Magazine and USA Today ... one of six finalists for the U.S. Army National Player of the Year award ... earned second-team All-America from maxpreps.com and Sports Illustrated ... named the area's player of the year by the Sacramento Bee ... also the Player of the Year in the Delta Valley League ... played in the U.S. Army All-American Bowl after his senior year ... totaled 57 tackles as a senior while also rushing for 1,134 yards and 15 touchdowns on 120 carries and passing for 893 yards and eight scores ... also punted ... helped lead Grant to an 8-4 record and the quarterfinals of the CIF Sac-Joaquin Section Division I playoffs in 2011 ... rushed for a season-high 227 yards and two TDs on just 16 carries in a win over Franklin in 2011 ... as a junior, helped lead Pacers to a 13-1 record and a run to the Sac-Joaquin Division II championship game ... rushed for 1,882 yards and 25 touchdowns on 164 carries as a junior ... named the Delta Valley League MVP as a junior ... scored 29 touchdowns in all ... as a sophomore, helped Pacers to a 12-1 overall record ... named to the Tacoma News-Tribune's "Western 100" ... ranked the No. 1 safety and the No. 3 overall prospect in the country by scout.com ... listed as the No. 1 safety in the nation, No. 4 overall recruit in the country and the No. 1 prospect in the state of California by rivals.com ... rated the No. 4 recruit in the country by SuperPrep, which also named him the Far West Defensive Player of the Year ... also a sprinter and long jumper and a standout baseball player ... drafted by the Boston Red Sox in the 18th round of the 2012 MLB Draft and played for the Sox' rookie-level team in the Gulf Coast League in the summer of 2012 ... played football for coach Mike Alberghini.

***Not sure where you are getting the one year starter info. PLayed nickel back as a true freshman, and started as a true sophmore. I like him in the WILB role though he is on the fringe low end in terms of size if what is posted is correct. He is a combine watch to verify size.

 

[Finito]

I was high on Carden for awhile, but ive also cooled. Reports are iffy on him.

Whereas Grayson isnt perfect, his reports are consistently positive. I saw a couple vid of his games and he looks like a steady eddy.



Erving has been a Center for 9 or so games. While hes done very well, I dont know if I want my NFL Center to have 9 college games to his career at that position.

Kikaha doesnt seem fast enough or strong enough to me. Alot of his sacks fall into his lap. And the injury history also worries me.

I like Striker. Id def take him.

Kikaha played with his hand in the dirt being a traditional 4-3 defensive end last year and had 12 sacks this year they switched to a 3-4 he played OLB standing up and got 19 sacks this season. Yeah that's allot of sacks just falling into his lap. That's a guy that can flat out get to the QB

Erving was considered a 1/2 round talent at left tackle this season he's been moved inside due to need and has flat out been scary dominate especially in the running game

 

[Finito]

Shaq Thompson

Winner of the Paul Hornung Award
Butkus Award Semi-Finalist
Walter Camp Award Semi-Finalist

2014 First-Team All-America (ESPN, CBS Sports, scout.com, SB Nation)
2014 All-Pac-12 First Team (at both LB and AP/ST)

2014: Winner of the fifth annual Paul Hornung Award, given to the nation's most versatile player ... named first-team All-America by ESPN, CBS Sports, scout.com and SB Nation ... named a Midseason All-America by ESPN, NFL.com, CBS Sports and Phil Steele ... listed as the national defensive player of the year by three of six writers on CBS Sports panel ... has scored six touchdowns in 2014, two as a running back and four on defense (one interception return and three fumble returns) ... named first-team preseason All-America by Athlon ... made SI.com's preseason All-America second team ... also named to the preseason watch list for both the Bedarik (top defensive player) and Paul Hornung (most versatile player) Awards ... has started each of the Huskies' games this season ... made four tackles, all solo, in the season-opening win at Hawai'i ... notched 15 tackles, incluiding a sack, and also forced a fumble in the victory over Eastern Washington ... also had three carries for 66 yards, including a 57-yard touchdown run, vs. the Eagles ... named the national defensive player of the week by the Walter Camp Foundation and Athlon's following two-touchdown performance vs. Illinois ... scored on a 36-yard interception return and on a 52-yard fumble return vs. the Illini, when he also had four tackles and three carries for 16 yards ... the first Husky on record to have scored two defensive touchdowns in the same game ... served as a game captain vs. the Illini ... made five tackles vs. Georgia State ... scored third defensive touchdown (and fourth TD overall) vs. Stanford, returning a fumble (that he forced) 32 yards for a score ... also had seven tackles, including one for a loss, and forced another fumble vs. the Cardinal ... scored on a 100-yard fumble return in the win at California, where he was a game captain ... one of just four 100-yard plays in UW history (others were a punt return by Hugh McElhenny and kickoff returns by Paul Arnold and John Ross) ... also had a game-high 11 tackles against the Bears ... named the National Defensive Player of the Week by Athlon, as well as Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Week, following the Cal game ... seven tackles at Oregon ... played mostly running back vs. Arizona State, gaining 98 yards on 21 carries ... also caught two passes for 15 yards vs. the Sun Devils ... started at tailback at Colorado, rushing for 174 yards and touchdown on just 15 carries (an 11.6-yard average) ... also had two receptions for 41 yards vs. the Buffaloes ... named the team's offensive player of the game after the win in Boulder ... made a second straight start at tailback, but also saw a good deal of action on the defense, vs. UCLA, when he was a game captain ... rushed for 100 yards on 16 carries vs. the Bruins, while also notching four tackles ... played only on defense and special teams at Arizona, finishing with three tackles ... served as a team captain for the Oregon State game, when he finished with five tackles ... made five tackles in the Apple Cup win at Washington State ... shares the national lead (with Danny Shelton) for fumble recoveries with four.

2013: Played in every game and started all but the Apple Cup (when UW opened in nickel) at linebacker ... honorable mention All-Pac-12 ... picked up the team's Chuck Niemi Big Hit Award ... notched nine tackles in the win over Boise State ... four tackles, including half of a sack, in the victory over Illinois in Chicago ... made a season-high 13 tackles in the win over Arizona ... team-high tackles at Stanford ... six tackles, one of them for a loss, vs. Oregon ... six tackles, all solo, at Arizona State ... six stops in the win over California ... made six tackles, including two tackles for loss, at UCLA ... scored on an 80-yard interception return in the win at Oregon State, where he also had four tackles ... notched six tackles in the Apple Cup win over Washington State ... recorded eight tackles in the Huskies' win over BYU in the Fight Hunger Bowl.

2012: Earned honorable mention All-Pac-12 ... named second-team Freshman All-America by FoxSportsNext.com ... picked up the Travis Spring Most Outstanding Freshman award at the team banquet ... started at nickel back in first college game in season-opener vs. San Diego State ... started every game at nickel... had three tackles vs. the Aztecs ... also had three stops in a start at LSU ... had seven tackles, including one for a loss, vs. Stanford ... had eight tackles and an interception in the game at Oregon ... five stops in the USC game ... also had five tackles at Arizona ... six tackles, including a sack, in the victory over No. 7 Oregon State ... made seven tackles, two for loss, and had a crucial, late interception that he returned 33 yards in the win at California ... six tackles, including one for loss, in the win over Utah ... had a tackle and also intercepted a pass in the Husky win at Colorado ... collected eight tackles, including a sack, and also recovered a fumble (returning it 21 yards) at Washington State ... recorded eight tackles in the MAACO Bowl vs. Boise State.

HIGH SCHOOL: Named first-team All-America by rivals.com, Parade Magazine and USA Today ... one of six finalists for the U.S. Army National Player of the Year award ... earned second-team All-America from maxpreps.com and Sports Illustrated ... named the area's player of the year by the Sacramento Bee ... also the Player of the Year in the Delta Valley League ... played in the U.S. Army All-American Bowl after his senior year ... totaled 57 tackles as a senior while also rushing for 1,134 yards and 15 touchdowns on 120 carries and passing for 893 yards and eight scores ... also punted ... helped lead Grant to an 8-4 record and the quarterfinals of the CIF Sac-Joaquin Section Division I playoffs in 2011 ... rushed for a season-high 227 yards and two TDs on just 16 carries in a win over Franklin in 2011 ... as a junior, helped lead Pacers to a 13-1 record and a run to the Sac-Joaquin Division II championship game ... rushed for 1,882 yards and 25 touchdowns on 164 carries as a junior ... named the Delta Valley League MVP as a junior ... scored 29 touchdowns in all ... as a sophomore, helped Pacers to a 12-1 overall record ... named to the Tacoma News-Tribune's "Western 100" ... ranked the No. 1 safety and the No. 3 overall prospect in the country by scout.com ... listed as the No. 1 safety in the nation, No. 4 overall recruit in the country and the No. 1 prospect in the state of California by rivals.com ... rated the No. 4 recruit in the country by SuperPrep, which also named him the Far West Defensive Player of the Year ... also a sprinter and long jumper and a standout baseball player ... drafted by the Boston Red Sox in the 18th round of the 2012 MLB Draft and played for the Sox' rookie-level team in the Gulf Coast League in the summer of 2012 ... played football for coach Mike Alberghini.

***Not sure where you are getting the one year starter info. PLayed nickel back as a true freshman, and started as a true sophmore. I like him in the WILB role though he is on the fringe low end in terms of size if what is posted is correct. He is a combine watch to verify size.

He's gonna go in the mid teens no way he is there when we draft plus he's not what we need

 

[Chopper0080]

He's gonna go in the mid teens no way he is there when we draft plus he's not what we need

Agree he goes top 20, but disagree that he isn't what we need. Heads and shoulders better than Foote and Minter, can cover and blitz. Every defense needs athletic playmakers.

 

[WildBB]

The reason I would not be shocked if the Cards took a C like Erving is if they feel he brings a physical element that we are lacking. IMO, the reason the Cards would take a C in the draft would be if they want that specific ability.

I'm thinking about what the Cowboys have accomplished by upgrading the OL.

They took Fredrickson late 1st a couple yrs. ago. Paired with Zach Martin they are both physical in the run game and have upgraded the interior pass pro very well also.

I'd be happy with OL or the pass rusher #1. Would really have liked J. Attouchou
Last yr. , but Deonne B. has been solid.

But RT and RG are two areas where I'd like to have improvement.

CB, QB, RB, OLB, ILB.

My question is does Kareem Martin have the athleticism to handle OLB on obvious passing downs? It could free him up some more than playing along the DL. A Bertrand Berry type of utilization.

 

[Chopper0080]

I'm thinking about what the Cowboys have accomplished by upgrading the OL.

They took Fredrickson late 1st a couple yrs. ago. Paired with Zach Martin they are both physical in the run game and have upgraded the interior pass pro very well also.

I'd be happy with OL or the pass rusher #1. Would really have liked J. Attouchou
Last yr. , but Deonne B. has been solid.

But RT and RG are two areas where I'd like to have improvement.

CB, QB, RB, OLB, ILB.

My question is does Kareem Martin have the athleticism to handle OLB on obvious passing downs? It could free him up some more than playing along the DL. A Bertrand Berry type of utilization.

FA is going to determine a lot of what we do in the draft. If the Cards put themselves in an area to focus on the offense early in the draft, I don't believe an offensive lineman would be out of the question.

Le'al Collins out of LSU would be a great fit, could start at RG, and move to RT if we can't/don't re-sign Massie. Collins is a physical beast in the running game, and is a college LT which speaks to his overall athleticism. He would instantly give us more push on the right side.

Ty Sambrillo out of Colorado St is a similar type player, and might be had in a trade down or could fall to the 2nd round.

Cameron Erving if we really wanted to improve our physicality at the C position.

Also, using a 3rd or 4th round pick on a RB like David Cobb or Tevin Coleman would bring a little more of a physical element to our running game.

What is funny is that for all of the lamenting regarding our offense, all folks talk about is drafting defensive players and filling defensive needs. I agree with some of those ideas, but it is still interesting.

 

[Cardiac]

I have wanted us to draft a true elite pass rusher for over a decade now. Okafor is doing well but imagine teaming him we another huge threat.

Having said that shoring up our improving Oline interests me as well. I'd prefer a LT who can start off at RT or even OG. This allows for insurance at the LT position in case of injury plus I fantasize about the Hulk at RT because we have an even better option at LT.

Don't misunderstand, Veldheer deserves a Pro Bowl invite this year IMO and while Massie hasn't been great he has been mostly good. I'm just wanting a dominant Oline like we had in the 70's when I first started rooting for the Cards.

We need to add an ILBer who has the same skill set as DWashout.

RB with some bulk.

A CB to develop.

An OC for the future and yes I'd love to improve our size and strength at the position.

Niklas should be good and Fells seems to be developing and Carlson gets rave reviews from teammates and coaches but we could use an upgrade.