2015 vs 2021

[Son of RedRage]

This team is better by a country mile. Better receiving core, d-line, special teams, and better coaching. Kliff would never let Honey Badger stay out there.

 

[CFLredzoned]

I love the BA years as much as anyone but Palmer was always, always limited, it doesn't matter if he was hurt or played or whatever, he has always choked in big games in the NFL. Every single time. People wanted him to be Warner, but he was not Kurt.

Yeah I don't think Murray has that same choking/overthinking gene, similiar to a Stafford. He's more machine-like, like a Russell Wilson.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Haley sucks and his career post AZ was nothing to write home about. He ran Whiz offense

Haley ran Whiz’s offense better than Whiz. He wasn’t afraid to put a star player in his place, too, like BA…his downfall was he didn’t have BAs personality and was just more of an a-hole.

 

[kerouac9]

Who is the third pro bowl in the secondary? All I can think of is Matthieu and Petersen??? It certainly wasn’t Jarraud Powers who is the other guy?

And I think this WR room is infinitely better overall. YoI had Fitz and smoke? Michael Floyd certainly wasn’t anybody to count on.

Justin Bethel was the third pro bowler. I know y'all hating if you're saying that Patrick Peterson at his absolute prime wasn't head and shoulders above everyone on this team. And to Cheese's point about Watt: we had 14 games of absolute elite level (again, he would likely have been DPOY had he not been injured and was still an All-Pro) Honey Badger; this year we got seven games of J.J. Watt showing he wasn't washed but with 1 sack and five TFLs surrounded by, as you all are saying, a very talented supporting cast.

Both teams can be good! And they are! But let's see how this season turns out.