2015 will be a good year for movies

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I was looking at the movies slated to be released in 2015 and I think it will be a very good year for the box office. I know I personally am looking forward to quite a few of the movies.

January - American Sniper
March - In the Heart of the Sea
May - Avengers: Age of Ultron
Mad Max: Fury Road
June - Jurassic World
July - Terminator Genisys
Ant-Man
Sept - Everest
Nov - James Bond 24
Dec - Star Wars The Force Awakens

Those are just the ones I am interested in but there are plenty of others that may hit it at the box office, Fast & Furious 7, Hunger Games, Divergent, Poltergeist, Fantastic Four etc.

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it's been a down year at the box office, but between Fast 7, Star Wars, the end of the Hunger Games, the new Bond and the ridiculous juggernaut that will be the Avengers 2, I think next year breaks all kinds of box office records.
 
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it's been a down year at the box office, but between Fast 7, Star Wars, the end of the Hunger Games, the new Bond and the ridiculous juggernaut that will be the Avengers 2, I think next year breaks all kinds of box office records.

Could 2015 put 2 films in the top 5 grossing of all time? Avengers 2 and Star Wars?

I think the year will likely shatter the record for top grossing year at the box office overall ($10.9 Billion in 2013).
 

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Could 2015 put 2 films in the top 5 grossing of all time? Avengers 2 and Star Wars?

I think the year will likely shatter the record for top grossing year at the box office overall ($10.9 Billion in 2013).

domestic? Star Wars won't come close, unless it's just FREAKING amazing. The last Star Wars movie only made 350 million. I think in general, the prequels tarnished the brand. Maybe the old stars being back in it will give it a push, but unless it just blows the doors off the world, my guess is makes 400 tops. And even that I'd be kind stunned by. Gotta realize, for all the talk of JJ Abrams "genius" he's yet to make a movie that cracks 260 million. Now, Star Wars is a different beast, but he makes "good" movies... not barn-burning, light the world on fire movies that completely captivate audiences. His closest was the first Star Trek reboot, which I liked a lot, but the second one was pretty mediocre and fell off substantially with a lot of goodwill behind it from the reboot.

avengers 2 has a legit shot. The first one made such a ridiculous amount of money that it's hard to say something like that will ever happen again, but people LOVE LOVE LOVE the Marvel Universe so anything's possible there. Worst case (I mean, the WORST case)... that movie probably makes at least 500 million, which would put it inside the top 5.
 

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Either way, you take the sum of all the big movies coming out next year and I'd say breaking box office records as a whole will be a possibility.
 

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Either way, you take the sum of all the big movies coming out next year and I'd say breaking box office records as a whole will be a possibility.

agreed. Bond is coming off it's biggest grosses ever and you throw Walz in as the villain and the goodwill from the last film and it'll be a smash. the public just laps up the Furious series and will get a Paul Walker bump (not like Ledger, but some).

But between the Avengers, Star Wars and the end of the Hunger Games alone, that's at least three movies that will make 350ish plus.

the big misses next year? my call is the abomination that Terminator seems like it's going to be and the new Mad Max. I'm stoked to see that one because Miller's directing and I think Hardy is a force of nature on the screen, but american audiences still don't even really know who he is and that franchise is so old that youngins won't really care about it's reinvention.
 
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domestic? Star Wars won't come close, unless it's just FREAKING amazing. The last Star Wars movie only made 350 million. I think in general, the prequels tarnished the brand. Maybe the old stars being back in it will give it a push, but unless it just blows the doors off the world, my guess is makes 400 tops. And even that I'd be kind stunned by. Gotta realize, for all the talk of JJ Abrams "genius" he's yet to make a movie that cracks 260 million. Now, Star Wars is a different beast, but he makes "good" movies... not barn-burning, light the world on fire movies that completely captivate audiences. His closest was the first Star Trek reboot, which I liked a lot, but the second one was pretty mediocre and fell off substantially with a lot of goodwill behind it from the reboot.

avengers 2 has a legit shot. The first one made such a ridiculous amount of money that it's hard to say something like that will ever happen again, but people LOVE LOVE LOVE the Marvel Universe so anything's possible there. Worst case (I mean, the WORST case)... that movie probably makes at least 500 million, which would put it inside the top 5.

The Phantom Menace is #5 all time in US box office history with over $470 million. I see no reason this new Star Wars movie won't top that.
 

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The Phantom Menace is #5 all time in US box office history with over $470 million. I see no reason this new Star Wars movie won't top that.

true... but The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars movie in over 15 years and the original trilogy was BELOVED by everyone. That was pretty much the most hyped/looked forward sequel of all time. But the prequels never came close to hitting that number again. Clones plummeted from 470 to 310 million with Clones and then rebounded to 380 million for Sith. But again, neither came close to that 470 million number (and take into account that upon initial release, it actually made 430 million, with multiple re-relases over the years pumping up the number to 470 million).

I just think you have a much more skeptical Star Wars audience after the prequels and you'll see that with the overall numbers of the next series of films. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
 
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true... but The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars movie in over 15 years and the original trilogy was BELOVED by everyone. That was pretty much the most hyped/looked forward sequel of all time. But the prequels never came close to hitting that number again. Clones plummeted from 470 to 310 million with Clones and then rebounded to 380 million for Sith. But again, neither came close to that 470 million number (and take into account that upon initial release, it actually made 430 million, with multiple re-relases over the years pumping up the number to 470 million).

I just think you have a much more skeptical Star Wars audience after the prequels and you'll see that with the overall numbers of the next series of films. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

I just think the hype machine for this movie is in full swing, the most talked about news item on social media the day they announced the title was the film. Then they announce an 88 second trailer and I see stories of people planning to pay to see a movie in one of the few theaters showing it this weekend and then leaving when the trailer is done. I think the return of the big three from the original cast will bring back a lot of those who soured on the prequels...even if it is just for nostalgia purposes.
 

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I just think the hype machine for this movie is in full swing, the most talked about news item on social media the day they announced the title was the film. Then they announce an 88 second trailer and I see stories of people planning to pay to see a movie in one of the few theaters showing it this weekend and then leaving when the trailer is done. I think the return of the big three from the original cast will bring back a lot of those who soured on the prequels...even if it is just for nostalgia purposes.

guess we'll see. Having the big 3 back will definitely move the needle, especially that opening weekend which will be an absolute smash. But if it's merely good (like most of JJ's movies) and not great, I just don't think it'll have legs to carry it to 470 or more. That's a MAMMOTH number.
 

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true... but The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars movie in over 15 years and the original trilogy was BELOVED by everyone. That was pretty much the most hyped/looked forward sequel of all time. But the prequels never came close to hitting that number again. Clones plummeted from 470 to 310 million with Clones and then rebounded to 380 million for Sith. But again, neither came close to that 470 million number (and take into account that upon initial release, it actually made 430 million, with multiple re-relases over the years pumping up the number to 470 million).

I just think you have a much more skeptical Star Wars audience after the prequels and you'll see that with the overall numbers of the next series of films. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Absolutely!

You simply cannot compare the release of Episode 1 with Episode 7. At that time, you had 3 movies that were part of pop culture as your backdrop. Now, we have 6 movies and the most recent 3 were simply bad movies. That affects the anticipation--having the original actors helps, but most people are aware that Harrison Ford is nearing 70 years old.
 

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true... but The Phantom Menace was the first Star Wars movie in over 15 years and the original trilogy was BELOVED by everyone. That was pretty much the most hyped/looked forward sequel of all time. But the prequels never came close to hitting that number again. Clones plummeted from 470 to 310 million with Clones and then rebounded to 380 million for Sith. But again, neither came close to that 470 million number (and take into account that upon initial release, it actually made 430 million, with multiple re-relases over the years pumping up the number to 470 million).

I just think you have a much more skeptical Star Wars audience after the prequels and you'll see that with the overall numbers of the next series of films. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

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I just think you have a much more skeptical Star Wars audience after the prequels and you'll see that with the overall numbers of the next series of films. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

I don't since Lucas won't be involved, especially with directing.
 
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Absolutely!

You simply cannot compare the release of Episode 1 with Episode 7. At that time, you had 3 movies that were part of pop culture as your backdrop. Now, we have 6 movies and the most recent 3 were simply bad movies. That affects the anticipation--having the original actors helps, but most people are aware that Harrison Ford is nearing 70 years old.

I really disagree here, many people are aware Harrison Ford is 70 but most of us that saw Star Wars in 1977 are in our 40's and 50's now...we expect him to be older. I just see no reason this movie won't be huge, between the built in fan base, the Disney marketing machine and the return of the characters from the original trilogy I can't see it being at least as successful as Episode 1.

Obviously I am bias because personally, there is no movie in 2015 I look forward to more.

OT--Looking at the all time box office numbers--how can Avatar be #1 of all time!? That movie was merely OK, visually it was stunning but the story was nothing special.
 

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I really disagree here, many people are aware Harrison Ford is 70 but most of us that saw Star Wars in 1977 are in our 40's and 50's now...we expect him to be older. I just see no reason this movie won't be huge, between the built in fan base, the Disney marketing machine and the return of the characters from the original trilogy I can't see it being at least as successful as Episode 1.

Obviously I am bias because personally, there is no movie in 2015 I look forward to more.

OT--Looking at the all time box office numbers--how can Avatar be #1 of all time!? That movie was merely OK, visually it was stunning but the story was nothing special.

Because you are no longer the audience for big tent-pole movies. It's as simple as that. The audience that these movies are made for are people half our age. And they will go see Avatar. They'll go see the new Star Wars movie, but not because they love the first trilogy so much. Because it's a JJ Abrams sci-fi movie with some brand recognition, but it's not going to be anything like the weeks before Phantom Menace came out.
 

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I really disagree here, many people are aware Harrison Ford is 70 but most of us that saw Star Wars in 1977 are in our 40's and 50's now...we expect him to be older. I just see no reason this movie won't be huge, between the built in fan base, the Disney marketing machine and the return of the characters from the original trilogy I can't see it being at least as successful as Episode 1.

avatar (not the movie) bet? Like Chap said... this generation still has the bad taste of the prequels in their mouths and the overwhelming majority of the movie going public that pushes these movies to insane heights are young people.

That's the reason I think it'll be a big movie, but nowhere close to a top 5 All-timer in terms of grosses. Unless its just FANTASTIC. But I don't believe Abrams can do fantastic. He can do entertaining and pretty, but i've yet to see him do anything next level phenomena kind of stuff on the silver screen yet.

OT--Looking at the all time box office numbers--how can Avatar be #1 of all time!? That movie was merely OK, visually it was stunning but the story was nothing special.

It was the first movie to really burst on the scene using 3D in this generation. Ground-breaking special effects and it was as much a movie theater experience as there possibly can be. But i agree... the movie itself was just okay... with very little rewatchability.
 
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avatar (not the movie) bet? Like Chap said... this generation still has the bad taste of the prequels in their mouths and the overwhelming majority of the movie going public that pushes these movies to insane heights are young people.

Sure avatar bet--I say over $470...you take the under? How long do we give it to hit those numbers?
 

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Sure avatar bet--I say over $470...you take the under? How long do we give it to hit those numbers?

yeah... i got the under. 6 months? that's plenty of time for us to know if it's gonna hit that number because nothing stays in the theaters for longer then that. even Avatar which made 750.
 

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yeah... i got the under. 6 months? that's plenty of time for us to know if it's gonna hit that number because nothing stays in the theaters for longer then that. even Avatar which made 750.

Domestic or both Domestic/Int'l?

It won't even come close to 470 Domestic.
 

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Domestic or both Domestic/Int'l?

It won't even come close to 470 Domestic.

domestic... at least that's what I assume he's talking about since he threw out the 470 number for Episode 1. It'll likely be a billion dollar movie with foreign, but domestic is the big number for the studios (although that's definitely starting to change).
 

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domestic... at least that's what I assume he's talking about since he threw out the 470 number for Episode 1. It'll likely be a billion dollar movie with foreign, but domestic is the big number for the studios (although that's definitely starting to change).

Phantom did $434 in initial release. $470 includes re-releases.
 
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