2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

[overseascardfan]

Perhaps his +/- is the best because he's playing in limited minutes compared to other top players. I don't think his +/- should determine his playing time but only playing 22 minutes a game is enough to raise concern.

Personally I feel Carter is a better prospect than Jackson.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Personally I feel Carter is a better prospect than Jackson.

He is a safer pick.

 

[Hoop Head]

Michael Porter Jr returned to the court for Missouri. He struggled some but he should play in the tournament so we'll get to see more of him. Since he's returned, I don't see his injury hurting his stock. Had he not returned this season then I could have seen him being selected between 6-10 but now it's anyone's guess where he'll go. Here is an article about his return with some highlights also.

https://sports.yahoo.com/michael-po...-pretty-couldve-worse-missouri-020943991.html

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Bagley with a big 33-17 game tonight. Carter struggled

Sexton with a big game and game winning floater. He’s been flying under the radar further into the season but whenever I check it seems he’s pushing that team to wins. With Trae Young deflating as the season progresses I wonder if we see a resurgence in Sexton’s value.

 

[Raindog]

Though it has been fashionable lately to downgrade him a bit, I still firmly believe Bagley is the second best prospect in this draft after Ayton.

 

[hsandhu]

Bagley with a big 33-17 game tonight. Carter struggled

Sexton with a big game and game winning floater. He’s been flying under the radar further into the season but whenever I check it seems he’s pushing that team to wins. With Trae Young deflating as the season progresses I wonder if we see a resurgence in Sexton’s value.

If ayton and bagley aren't 1 and 2 on suns board they are smoking crack.

Last week gambo said if suns have 1, they pick atyton or bagley, I assume he has some knowledge of their thinking. So that's good.

If suns want sexton, they prob could package 15 and 16 to move up a few spots.

 

[Cheesebeef]

If ayton and bagley aren't 1 and 2 on suns board they are smoking crack.

Last week gambo said if suns have 1, they pick atyton or bagley, I assume he has some knowledge of their thinking. So that's good.

If suns want sexton, they prob could package 15 and 16 to move up a few spots.

Agreed. It HAS to be one of those two MASSIVE UPSIDE big men. If they go Euro Wing with good playmaking ability but only okay athleticism and okay shooting, I will put my fist through this board.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Bagley with a big 33-17 game tonight. Carter struggled

Sexton with a big game and game winning floater. He’s been flying under the radar further into the season but whenever I check it seems he’s pushing that team to wins. With Trae Young deflating as the season progresses I wonder if we see a resurgence in Sexton’s value.

If we somehow came away from the draft with Ayton or Bagley/Sexton, this team could be downright DOMINANT in three years for a DECADE to come.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Though it has been fashionable lately to downgrade him a bit, I still firmly believe Bagley is the second best prospect in this draft after Ayton.

Yeah I’m not buying his stock dropping. Particularly in light of the fact he has to reclassify to even be a freshman this year. He’s been great and he’s got a TON of physical and skill development yet to come . . .

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If we somehow came away from the draft with Ayton or Bagley/Sexton, this team could be downright DOMINANT in three years for a DECADE to come.

Yup. And I think the 15/16 could get us just close enough to nab Sexton. We just need the ping pong balls . . .

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Y’know I do not think most teams would trade away the right to draft ayton. But if we end up with the 3rd to 6th pick I give serious consideration to sending all 3 picks for the #1 pick to grab him and hope Booker-Ayton-Jackson becomes a great Big3 to attract a couple good vets alongside warren, Payton, and whatever grows outta bender/chriss/Reed.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Y’know I do not think most teams would trade away the right to draft ayton. But if we end up with the 3rd to 6th pick I give serious consideration to sending all 3 picks for the #1 pick to grab him and hope Booker-Ayton-Jackson becomes a great Big3 to attract a couple good vets alongside warren, Payton, and whatever grows outta bender/chriss/Reed.

I don’t think that gets it done for Ayton, but if we’re 3 or 4, it could be good enough to move up to 2 to grab Bagley if #2 loves Donicic or Porter and can get that by moving a slot or two down.

 

[Hoop Head]

Y’know I do not think most teams would trade away the right to draft ayton. But if we end up with the 3rd to 6th pick I give serious consideration to sending all 3 picks for the #1 pick to grab him and hope Booker-Ayton-Jackson becomes a great Big3 to attract a couple good vets alongside warren, Payton, and whatever grows outta bender/chriss/Reed.

I hadn't thought of that before, mainly because I've been hoping the Suns get #1 or #2, but if they fall to #3, #4, or #5, I wonder if that would work to trade for #1 to select Ayton. I would think Memphis would do that since they have Gasol already. They could use the extra picks more than any other high lotto team also, they really don't have much young talent at all. Perhaps they'd rather have Bagley, Porter, or Doncic to pair with Gasol and Conley. It might cost us Warren in a deal with Memphis, but if Warren is included I'd like to hang onto one of the 2 picks in the teens. He's a 20ppg efficient scorer who is on a team and cap friendly contract for the next 4 years. I don't think he should be considered a throw in.

Perhaps the Magic would make that deal also, they have Vucevic as a Center already signed long term and every mock that takes team fit into the equation has them selecting Young or Doncic. They seem to have their sights set on a PG, which is part of the reason they traded Payton. I don't think #5 would pull off either trade but I'd think #3 would and #4 might, depending on who gets #1. I'm not sure if Atlanta or Sacramento would be willing to trade out of drafting Ayton though.

 

[SirStefan32]

I don't think anyone is going to pass on Ayton because they have Nikola Vucevic or the corpse of Gasol.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I hadn't thought of that before, mainly because I've been hoping the Suns get #1 or #2, but if they fall to #3, #4, or #5, I wonder if that would work to trade for #1 to select Ayton. I would think Memphis would do that since they have Gasol already. They could use the extra picks more than any other high lotto team also, they really don't have much young talent at all. Perhaps they'd rather have Bagley, Porter, or Doncic to pair with Gasol and Conley. It might cost us Warren in a deal with Memphis, but if Warren is included I'd like to hang onto one of the 2 picks in the teens. He's a 20ppg efficient scorer who is on a team and cap friendly contract for the next 4 years. I don't think he should be considered a throw in.

Perhaps the Magic would make that deal also, they have Vucevic as a Center already signed long term and every mock that takes team fit into the equation has them selecting Young or Doncic. They seem to have their sights set on a PG, which is part of the reason they traded Payton. I don't think #5 would pull off either trade but I'd think #3 would and #4 might, depending on who gets #1. I'm not sure if Atlanta or Sacramento would be willing to trade out of drafting Ayton though.

I don't think Memphis passes on Ayton for a 33 year old aging Gasol. If anything, they might look and try to go the SA route and give themselves a new Twin Towers... especially because BOTH of them can actually shoot, which makes them even more dangerous in today's 3-ball happy league.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't think anyone is going to pass on Ayton because they have Nikola Vucevic or the corpse of Gasol.

ya.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I hadn't thought of that before, mainly because I've been hoping the Suns get #1 or #2, but if they fall to #3, #4, or #5, I wonder if that would work to trade for #1 to select Ayton. I would think Memphis would do that since they have Gasol already. They could use the extra picks more than any other high lotto team also, they really don't have much young talent at all. Perhaps they'd rather have Bagley, Porter, or Doncic to pair with Gasol and Conley. It might cost us Warren in a deal with Memphis, but if Warren is included I'd like to hang onto one of the 2 picks in the teens. He's a 20ppg efficient scorer who is on a team and cap friendly contract for the next 4 years. I don't think he should be considered a throw in.

Perhaps the Magic would make that deal also, they have Vucevic as a Center already signed long term and every mock that takes team fit into the equation has them selecting Young or Doncic. They seem to have their sights set on a PG, which is part of the reason they traded Payton. I don't think #5 would pull off either trade but I'd think #3 would and #4 might, depending on who gets #1. I'm not sure if Atlanta or Sacramento would be willing to trade out of drafting Ayton though.

Exactly there might be three teams (two of which you mentioned, magic and Memphis) that might find one of the alternative studs attractive. I think the third might be sactown. Glade likes his euros and if doncic continues to be rated highly maybe they are okay with snagging him and a couple more. They did trade down from 8 with us a couple years ago. Maybe trading down to 3/4 for a couple midrounders happens.

 

[leclerc]

Mikael Bridges and one of the bigs please!

Big
Warren
Jackson
Booker
Payton
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Bridges

 

[Ronin]

Mike Schmitz
@Mike_Schmitz

Aaron Holiday's last 5 games: 28.2 PTS, 5.4 REBS, 6.8 AST on 49% from 2 and 53.5% from 3 on a ridiculous 4.6 makes per game. The UCLA guard doesn't get nearly enough national attention for the type of year he's having. Type of player who will outplay his draft slot in the NBA.

 

[Ronin]

Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein) tweeted at 0:32 PM on Fri, Mar 09, 2018:
Iowa's Tyler Cook will enter the 2018 NBA Draft, but won't hire an agent, per release.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yeah I’m not buying his stock dropping. Particularly in light of the fact he has to reclassify to even be a freshman this year. He’s been great and he’s got a TON of physical and skill development yet to come . . .

he's not young for the class though, he will be 19 next week, so he's slightly young for the class(Ayton turned 19 in july) but it's not like he's 17 going on 18.

The main thing I've always preferred on Bagley over Ayton is he plays harder. Ayton is playing harder now, and he's obviously more physically ready, stronger. That can go both ways since it means Bagley has more room for improvement too.

I don't think you can go wrong either way the question on both is the same, who can they guard in the NBA. Right now I actually think Ayton is a bit ahead in that regard.

 

[Russ Smith]

Mike Schmitz
@Mike_Schmitz

Aaron Holiday's last 5 games: 28.2 PTS, 5.4 REBS, 6.8 AST on 49% from 2 and 53.5% from 3 on a ridiculous 4.6 makes per game. The UCLA guard doesn't get nearly enough national attention for the type of year he's having. Type of player who will outplay his draft slot in the NBA.

he has been amazing, keep in mind he's playing over 37MPG so the demands on him are over the top. Trae Young guards the weakest offensive guard on the other team, Holiday usually guards the best one. Last night under a minute to play someone fouled Prince Ali and Steve Alford screamed for Holiday to come over to the bench and on camera said to him "you have to go get the ball everytime." Not a criticism of Alford just that's how much Holiday is carrying UCLA, under a minute in a game they basically had won the coach still doesn't want anybody else on the team to touch the ball because he trusts Aaron so much.

He's a bit undersized, he turns it over too much, but he shot over 50% from 3 in conference play, with everyone keying onhim. Colorado was the only team that gave him any problems this year and they just basically doubled him the whole game.

UCLA fans are calling him UCLA's Kemba Walker.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Sexton is making himself some money . . . keeps this up we can’t reach him even with packaging the 15/16. I’ve likes him since he carried the game 4-on-5.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I like Sexton, but not for the Suns. Its about shooting.

 

[overseascardfan]

Bagley with a big 33-17 game tonight. Carter struggled

Sexton with a big game and game winning floater. He’s been flying under the radar further into the season but whenever I check it seems he’s pushing that team to wins. With Trae Young deflating as the season progresses I wonder if we see a resurgence in Sexton’s value.

14 pts / 9 reb / 4 blocks, I'd take that struggling performance every day of the week