2017 4th round pick is Dorian Johnson G

[WildBB]

Pick is coming up and Kelly is still there (so is Peterman).

Question - did they find Dorian after watching Peterman or find Peterman after watching Dorian?

I want Kelly.

I'd rather take the flyer on Kelly at this point. Very immature though.

 

[outcent13]

What about that kid from Northern Colorado ? Someone brought him up a few days ago I think.

 

[Stout]

Agree 100 percent with Harry here. Great pick.

 

[Harry]

Pick is coming up and Kelly is still there (so is Peterman).

Question - did they find Dorian after watching Peterman or find Peterman after watching Dorian?

I want Kelly.

More likely watching Conner the RB

 

[Cheesebeef]

really like the pick, but can we hold off on the "ready to start day 1 stuff". Getting Evan Boehm whiplash here...

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

My scout friend said: "good player but a medical nightmare".

I haven't talked with him to get an explanation but that was what he texted me.

 

[cardncubfan]

How can he be a medical nightmare when he hasn't missed a game?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I don't know, I haven't talked to him. Just passing on the info.

 

[Austin Zonie]

I don't know, I haven't talked to him. Just passing on the info.

I'm curious to hear what your buddy has to say.


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[juza76]

My scout friend said: "good player but a medical nightmare".

I haven't talked with him to get an explanation but that was what he texted me.

that s why he dropped but 2 points


he explained he has the liver issue since he was bron, he need medication and it is under control, not a problem moving forward

and he never missed a game

 

[juza76]

How can he be a medical nightmare when he hasn't missed a game?

something serious about his liver? but as u said never missed a game or can be a problem this issue in the future?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Obviously the Cards know about his medical and feel he was worth the pick and I hope it works out. He looks great on tape and the guy said he was a good player.

All players come with risk. Jax(his team) overlooked DeDe Westbrook's past and selected him. Cincy didn't seem to mind Mixon mixing it up.

Hell, one year he told me of a team that drafted 4 players that had failed combine drug tests.

 

[vince56]

Quick, someone paint a picture of him and put it in his attic

 

[PDXChris]

How can he be a medical nightmare when he hasn't missed a game?

Maybe passing a physical or insuring him? Just spit balling of course.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Hmmmm. Liver issues are a common side effect of CMV, which he could have gotten from his mother during birth. It is considered a sexually transmitted disease since it is transmitted via bodily fluids.

But there is a lot of bodily fluid flying around out there in a football game. Even if this is not the case with him, it must have come up before in the NFL. I wonder what protocols they have.

 

[Sunburn]

Hmmmm. Liver issues are a common side effect of CMV, which he could have gotten from his mother during birth. It is considered a sexually transmitted disease since it is transmitted via bodily fluids.

Lol seems like kind of a shot in the dark but ok.

 

[Hollywood]

just curious about the liver issued he carries since he was born
hepatitis?
do we have some doctor here?

I wanted us to grab a QB, but if Johnson is OK medically, we gotta steal.

What's his Medical? I would have taken Jake Butt if that's the case.

My scout friend said: "good player but a medical nightmare".

I haven't talked with him to get an explanation but that was what he texted me.

He said in his press confrence that his enzyme levels are high which is a problem he has had aince birth. Medication controls it. Its not an issue.

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[Hollywood]

Offensive Linemen
61 Elton Brown G
75 Levi Brown T
69 Mike Gandy T
72 Brandon Keith T
76 Deuce Lutui G
70 Pat Ross C
63 Lyle Sendlein C
68 Elliot Vallejo T
74 Reggie Wells G

These were our olinemen in 2008....we've come a long way.

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[BullheadCardFan]

Offensive Linemen
61 Elton Brown G
75 Levi Brown T
69 Mike Gandy T
72 Brandon Keith T
76 Deuce Lutui G
70 Pat Ross C
63 Lyle Sendlein C
68 Elliot Vallejo T
74 Reggie Wells G

These were our olinemen in 2008....we've come a long way.

We sure have.

 

[Stout]

really like the pick, but can we hold off on the "ready to start day 1 stuff". Getting Evan Boehm whiplash here...

How often am I THIS optimistic, Cheese? Trust me, he's the real deal.

 

[Krangodnzr]

What's his Medical? I would have taken Jake Butt if that's the case.

LOL.

Torn ACL...

 

[Chopper0080]

How often am I THIS optimistic, Cheese? Trust me, he's the real deal.

Everything I have seen from Dorian made me think he was a plug and play guy. Experience from a 3 point stance. Good size and length. Smart kid.

I'm not shocked if he starts to begin the season. The only thing that makes me think he won't is if they want him to stay at LG with Boehm at RG.

 

[oaken1]

Everything I have seen from Dorian made me think he was a plug and play guy. Experience from a 3 point stance. Good size and length. Smart kid.

I'm not shocked if he starts to begin the season. The only thing that makes me think he won't is if they want him to stay at LG with Boehm at RG.

my guess is they will have him pushing Boehm while evan is pushing AQ....as well as he provides iupati insurance...because the dude cant stay on the field

 

[daves]

He said in his press confrence that his enzyme levels are high which is a problem he has had aince birth. Medication controls it. Its not an issue.

I just watched DoJo's press conference on Facebook Live (starts around the 30 minute mark). He certainly does play it down as no big deal, and gives no reason to believe that it's having a significant detrimental effect on him... but for the first time, he mentions the name of his condition, primary sclerosing cholangitis. It actually sounds VERY serious. Hopefully he's one of the "many" patients who are asymptomatic, but primary symptoms include:

• Pruritus (i.e., itching), which may be severe.
• Severe fatigue (a non-specific symptom often present in liver disease)
• Jaundice and scleral icterus (i.e., yellowing of the white of the eyes)
• Episodes of acute cholangitis (infection within the bile ducts), which can be life-threatening[4]
• Dark urine due to excess conjugated bilirubin, which is water-soluble and excreted by the kidneys (i.e. choluria)
• Malabsorption, especially of fat, and steatorrhea (fatty stool), due to an inadequate amount of bile reaching the small intestine, leading to decreased levels of the fat-soluble vitamins, A, D, E and K.
• Hepatomegaly (i.e., enlarged liver), due to portal hypertension caused by compression of portal veins by the proximate sclerosed intrahepatic bile ducts, and right upper quadrant abdominal pain
• Portal hypertension, a complication of cirrhosis, which can manifest with esophageal and parastomal varices[5] as well as hepatic encephalopathy (mental status alteration/disturbance caused by liver dysfunction and shunting of blood away from the scarred liver; such that ammonia detoxification is reduced with concomitant encephalopathy)

• Approximately 75% of individuals with PSC also have inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), most often ulcerative colitis.

When DoJo says that his "enzyme levels are high", he's probably referring to this primary basis for clinical diagnosis:

• serum alkaline phosphatase (ALP) > 1.5x the upper limit of normal

It really gets serious when you get into the Management and Prognosis sections:

• No pharmacologic treatment has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for PSC.
• Liver transplantation is the only proven long-term treatment of PSC
  
• Although there is no curative treatment, several clinical trials are underway that aim to slow progression of this liver disease.

• Estimated median survival from diagnosis until liver transplant or PSC-related death is 21.3 years.

Hopefully his case is as mild as, by all indications, it seems to be!

...dave

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I just DoJo's press conference on Facebook Live (starts around the 30 minute mark). He certainly does play it down as no big deal, and gives no reason to believe that it's having a significant detrimental effect on him... but for the first time, he mentions the name of his condition, primary sclerosing cholangitis. It actually sounds VERY serious. Hopefully he's one of the "many" patients who are asymptomatic, but primary symptoms include:

• Pruritus (i.e., itching), which may be severe.
• Severe fatigue (a non-specific symptom often present in liver disease)
• Jaundice and scleral icterus (i.e., yellowing of the white of the eyes)
• Episodes of acute cholangitis (infection within the bile ducts), which can be life-threatening[4]
• Dark urine due to excess conjugated bilirubin, which is water-soluble and excreted by the kidneys (i.e. choluria)
• Malabsorption, especially of fat, and steatorrhea (fatty stool), due to an inadequate amount of bile reaching the small intestine, leading to decreased levels of the fat-soluble vitamins, A, D, E and K.
• Hepatomegaly (i.e., enlarged liver), due to portal hypertension caused by compression of portal veins by the proximate sclerosed intrahepatic bile ducts, and right upper quadrant abdominal pain
• Portal hypertension, a complication of cirrhosis, which can manifest with esophageal and parastomal varices[5] as well as hepatic encephalopathy (mental status alteration/disturbance caused by liver dysfunction and shunting of blood away from the scarred liver; such that ammonia detoxification is reduced with concomitant encephalopathy)

• Approximately 75% of individuals with PSC also have inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), most often ulcerative colitis.

When DoJo says that his "enzyme levels are high", he's probably referring to this primary basis for clinical diagnosis:

• serum alkaline phosphatase (ALP) > 1.5x the upper limit of normal

It really gets serious when you get into the Management and Prognosis sections:

• No pharmacologic treatment has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for PSC.
• Liver transplantation is the only proven long-term treatment of PSC
  
• Although there is no curative treatment, several clinical trials are underway that aim to slow progression of this liver disease.

• Estimated median survival from diagnosis until liver transplant or PSC-related death is 21.3 years.

Hopefully his case is as mild as, by all indications, it seems to be!

...dave

I should e guessed you would do this research!