2017 FA Contracts - incl Tyrann Mathieu big extension

[Cbus cardsfan]

This happened under Rod Graves, too. Washington, Campbell, Dockett, Boldin and Fitzgerald all got massive contract extensions near the end of their rookie deals.

Meanwhile, Justin Bethel is likely to be the only member of the Cards' 2012 draft class to get a second deal with Arizona, and Patrick Peterson is the only remaining member of the 2011 draft class.

:countingchickens:

Maybe we should bring Rod Graves back.

 

[jf-08]

Tyrann Mathieu headed for massive extension

Lock 'em up..

http://espn.go.com/blog/arizona-car...ring-as-tyrann-mathieus-negotiations-continue

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...-tyrann-mathieu-5-thoughts-new-deal/84449332/

On Monday morning, NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reported the Cardinals and Mathieu’s agent, Tom Condon, are “deep” in negotiations on a deal that would make Mathieu the league’s highest paid safety.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000662762/article/tyrann-mathieu-headed-for-massive-extension

 

[WildBB]

Campbell will have a bIG yr.

 

[cardncubfan]

Mathieu wants to be paid as a top defender.


http://espn.go.com/blog/arizona-car...nals-tyrann-mathieu-as-a-safety-or-cornerback

 

[BigRedRage]

Mathieu wants to be paid as a top defender.


http://espn.go.com/blog/arizona-car...nals-tyrann-mathieu-as-a-safety-or-cornerback

I'd say he's earned it.

We'll pay him with protections involved. I think with the background and pp21 here long term, there is no reason to consider otherwise.

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[GatorAZ]

Mathieu wants to be paid as a top defender.


http://espn.go.com/blog/arizona-car...nals-tyrann-mathieu-as-a-safety-or-cornerback

Well, sorry. Not until he plays a full season at all-pro level.

 

[Osbern61]

The fact that he's working through 2 rehabs tells me to sign him!

 

[Mitch]

I think it would be wise for the Cardinals to wait to see how Honey Badger plays this year. There's something a little nerve-wracking about the juxtaposition of "I am going to take my time rehabbing and returning this year" with "I want to be paid as a top defender."

 

[Cardiac]

I think it would be wise for the Cardinals to wait to see how Honey Badger plays this year. There's something a little nerve-wracking about the juxtaposition of "I am going to take my time rehabbing and returning this year" with "I want to be paid as a top defender."

Overreaction on your part IMO Mitch. He is simply being smart about his rehab and not wanting any setbacks. No one loves the game more and I've slowly come to the realization that all players want to get paid as muchas possible on their first couple of contracts if not all of them!

 

[oaken1]

I think it would be wise for the Cardinals to wait to see how Honey Badger plays this year. There's something a little nerve-wracking about the juxtaposition of "I am going to take my time rehabbing and returning this year" with "I want to be paid as a top defender."

as a team and as a fan base we really WANT TM to take his time and rehab fully before coming back.

I was not a fan of when we picked him but one thing that cannot be questioned is the kids passion for playing football. He will get on the field when he can do so without increased risk of re-injury and he will give the team everything he has on every play. I saw this every week when he was down here playing for LSU and we have seen the same since he has been with the RedBirds. SK needs to pay the kid but in doing so the team must be protected to some degree.
IMO, as the teams protections go up or down then the money should go up or down with it. But strangely enough I would be perfectly comfortable if the team offered him 5 years at 45 mil with 30 mil guaranteed,.. just straight up.

TM is a baller.... but he also has something, an energy, that makes the entire secondary better.

 

[WildBB]

TM is a baller.... but he also has something, an energy, that makes the entire secondary better.

Without a doubt.

 

[Reddog]

What it boils down to is—Honey Badger is going to have to make the choice to get paid this year or to risk it all on how he performs this year heading into FA.

I agree but his rep will likely want a longer deal so he can drive up the guaranteed number to hedge against injuries. He might think he is indestructible but his agent wants to get paid.

 

[CFLredzoned]

I'm sure the Cardinals would love to guarantee just 2 years. That way, if HB had another knee injury in 2016, it's only one additional "uncomfortable" year in 2017. But they want to bring the number down. So I'm thinking 3 years guaranteed. That shows HB that they're willing to take a risk. But the tradeoff is that he's paid at the top of safeties, without dipping into CB numbers - maybe adding 1 or 2 million to that per year - but not going with the full monty top defensive player thing. If HB wants to play hardball and insist on that, then he will probably have to agree to a 2 year guarantee. Actually, if he really does insist on that, I think the Cardinals would call his bluff and just let 2016 play itself out.

 

[Mitch]

Overreaction on your part IMO Mitch. He is simply being smart about his rehab and not wanting any setbacks. No one loves the game more and I've slowly come to the realization that all players want to get paid as muchas possible on their first couple of contracts if not all of them!

Cardiac---I am all for playing it smart with the rehab---I think we all are. But, wouldn't it be wise to wait to see how the rehab goes and whether Honey badger can return to form before the team makes him one of the top 5 highest paid DBs in the NFL?

The team can use the franchise tag or the transition tag, if need be. Perhaps they can get a mid-season contract extension done with Honey Badger and/or Chandler Jones. They did mid year extensions with Carson Palmer and Justin Bethel, for example.

 

[Cardiac]

Cardiac---I am all for playing it smart with the rehab---I think we all are. But, wouldn't it be wise to wait to see how the rehab goes and whether Honey badger can return to form before the team makes him one of the top 5 highest paid DBs in the NFL?

The team can use the franchise tag or the transition tag, if need be. Perhaps they can get a mid-season contract extension done with Honey Badger and/or Chandler Jones. They did mid year extensions with Carson Palmer and Justin Bethel, for example.

Can't say a part of me isn't concerned that he may not be the same player coming back from this ACL and it is conerning thtat it is his 2nd knee injury. Thing is he came back as good as ever from the 1st knee injury and he LOVES the game and this team so I would get the deal done ASAP. He is the most important pending FA for next year that is core player who is a face of the franchise.

If I'm Keim & Disner HB & CC are the first two I get done, HB for the reasons I've stated and CC for CAP relief this year.

 

[Mitch]

Can't say a part of me isn't concerned that he may not be the same player coming back from this ACL and it is conerning thtat it is his 2nd knee injury. Thing is he came back as good as ever from the 1st knee injury and he LOVES the game and this team so I would get the deal done ASAP. He is the most important pending FA for next year that is core player who is a face of the franchise.

If I'm Keim & Disner HB & CC are the first two I get done, HB for the reasons I've stated and CC for CAP relief this year.

Linking HB and CC together is actually quite astute because one would think that in order to clear the cap space the team will need to sign HB to a long term lucrative contract, they would have to do something about CC's $15.25M cap hit. Unless, they backload the contract, which they are disinclined to do---which is why they are in the situation they are this year with CC.

However, in light of the rumors that the Cardinals had put CC on the trading block back in March and the fact that nothing has been done as yet about his current cap figure, it seems that the Cardinals want to see what kind of a year CC has this year before committing themselves to another contract with him.

It's curious too that HB and CC have the same agent in Tom Condon.

It would be great of Steve Keim and Mike Disner could do a package deal where they pay HB an average of $11-12M a year (with reasonable guarantees and incentives) and where they pay Campbell (who has just made $55M on his last contract and who will be 30 heading into the next one) a more team-friendly deal in the neighborhood of $6-7M a year. But, one has to wonder whether the Cardinals are willing to make both commitments.

 

[Cardiac]

Good thoughts Mitch, it appears we as fans need to start bracing ourselves for some of favorite players moving on due to CAP constraints. CC being 30 and still deserving of a quality contract will mean he can make more in FA then staying a Card. He was ranked as the 71st best player last year on the NFLN countdown and there were numerous times he was mentioned during the draft as a player that some prospects could grow into production wise.

The number of key FA's the Cards have coming up next year is staggering. BASK and Disner have their work cut out for them!

 

[MartinD]

I believe Campbell will be extended, helping with the cap and keeping him on board. Just a gut feeling --or, maybe, a fan's hope. I like the guy.

 

[Cardiac]

I believe Campbell will be extended, helping with the cap and keeping him on board. Just a gut feeling --or, maybe, a fan's hope. I like the guy.

Hope you are right.

 

[BW52]

Let TM go if he wants monster money.Let somebody else pay him .

 

[kerouac9]

Let TM go if he wants monster money.Let somebody else pay him .

Erm, I dunno. The average Top 10 Defender salary is in excess of $12M per year. That's probably not acceptable. But still...

 

[TJ]

Cardiac---I am all for playing it smart with the rehab---I think we all are. But, wouldn't it be wise to wait to see how the rehab goes and whether Honey badger can return to form before the team makes him one of the top 5 highest paid DBs in the NFL?

The team can use the franchise tag or the transition tag, if need be. Perhaps they can get a mid-season contract extension done with Honey Badger and/or Chandler Jones. They did mid year extensions with Carson Palmer and Justin Bethel, for example.

The team already has an idea for how TM's rehab is going. We are about six months removed from the injury and at this point, the team physicians should have a better idea of when he's able to go full contact. Keim is not negotiating a deal that is not going to give the team at least some insurance in the event of another injury.

In addition, if the team waits and TM shows no rust and balls out, his asking price goes up, again; even mid-season.

The franchise tag should be saved for Chandler Jones in the event that he plays well and the team has issues re-signing him.

While it won't be crippling to not have a deal done until mid-season, it's best to simply get it done now. Make one of the faces of your franchise happy and avoid any sort of distraction heading into the season.

 

[TJ]

Let TM go if he wants monster money.Let somebody else pay him .

Great idea.

He'd be a free agent for about 37 seconds and then have one of the largest deals for his position, ever. After he balls out elsewhere, Keim would look like an idiot for taking that approach. Fortunately, Keim isn't an idiot and is going to get this deal done sooner rather than later.

TM is going to get monster money, and he deserves it.

 

[oaken1]

Let TM go if he wants monster money.Let somebody else pay him .

Howdy Mr B!! When did you learn to use the internet?

 

[cardncubfan]

Let TM go if he wants monster money.Let somebody else pay him .

You want to let go the best player on our defense?