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The post you quoted was about Buc, I assume you're talking about HB?
2018 Cardinals' Top Salaries/Cap Hits (Rounded)
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The post you quoted was about Buc, I assume you're talking about HB?
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He had those knee surgeries but we tend to forget about Mathieu's shoulder injury. I think this is the secret bugaboo concerning why he is not tackling like he used to. The guy no longer wraps up which is what he used to do textbook style
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Man, it suuuuuuucks that HB isn’t the same player he used to be. Having two mega studs in the secondary with another DPOY candidate in Jones would have put us one star linebacker away from having the perfect blend of superstars on D where if you just filled out the rest with solid lunch pail guys, they could be dominant.
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I think I would rather hold onto Mathieu and let go of Veldheer, Bucannon (We have to cut him, Mauro and AP. I don't love Mathieu's contract, but if our hope to win is a dominant defense, getting rid of Mathieu for money makes that more difficult.
Considering the Cardinals are playing JV at RT, his numbers are even more inflated. $10M cap hit would put him at or near the top of the RT salaries for 2018.
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Mitch
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As much as I like Veldheer and the great effort he put in to improve this season, he did unfortunately wind up on the IR the last 2 years and, John Wetzel might be just as good at RT. Could be the same with Will Holden.
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Gotta give the badger another year. I saw him getting better as year went on. Gotta see him in the new system
that mentality is the best thing that can happen for Tyrann... if we have him on the roster 10 days into the league year we owe him about $18.6mil guaranteed over the next two seasons...on top of his salary
here it is:
- $18.75M more guarantees on 3/14/2018 (2018 salary + 2018 roster bonus + $8M of 2019 salary)
We cant cut him next off season, it would cause $14.1mil in dead money
dude has a $14mil cap hit each year for the next three seasons then a $10mil hit in the final season of the contract.
we can cut him after the 2019 season and only suffer $3.1mil dead cap from it. But between now and then we have to pay out about $25mil with over half of it guaranteed to a player who is only worth half that.
They probably wont cut him. a restructure makes the most sense and most players will do it if they can arrange to put more money in their pockets right now.
either way the impact is really only this year...next year we have over $100mil in cap space, of course, we also dont have many guys under contract either lol.
It looks like we can have $38mil in cap space by cutting Bucannon & Gresham. No dead money only $4mil of guaranteed money to Gresh. That's if I'm using the calculator correctly. 
Btw, next year we'll have over 100mil depending on who we sign this year.
https://overthecap.com/calculator/arizona-cardinals/
Btw, next year we'll have over 100mil depending on who we sign this year.
https://overthecap.com/calculator/arizona-cardinals/
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It looks like we can have $38mil in cap space by cutting Bucannon & Gresham. No dead money only $4mil of guaranteed money to Gresh. That's if I'm using the calculator correctly.
Btw, next year we'll have over 100mil depending on who we sign this year.
https://overthecap.com/calculator/arizona-cardinals/
Gresham has a big dead cap hit that is more than his salary cap hit. His dead cap hit is over 9 mil.
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Getting rid of a overpaid safety who can`t cover worth a poo is the smart move.Bye by Badger.Keep Veldheer.With Humphries injury history Veldheers ability to play either tackle spot could come in handy.HB can be replaced.
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With Palmers retirement, the Cardinals have $28 million in cap space. They can sign their rookies and do their rent a player deals. But they can't splurge big in free agency.
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Cap and salary issues have always made my brain hurt.
I'm usually dead-wrong on this stuff, but here's what I wonder out loud:
In any given season, we're going to overpay for some players, underpay for others and pay just the right amount for many others.
What I never quite know is: Who are we paying too much for and who's a steal.
Which begs the inevitable question: "Do winning teams spend their money more wisely than losing teams?" It would be an interesting analysis. (Only roadblock being a built-in bias where good players, by definition, make winning teams better money managers).
I'm usually dead-wrong on this stuff, but here's what I wonder out loud:
In any given season, we're going to overpay for some players, underpay for others and pay just the right amount for many others.
What I never quite know is: Who are we paying too much for and who's a steal.
Which begs the inevitable question: "Do winning teams spend their money more wisely than losing teams?" It would be an interesting analysis. (Only roadblock being a built-in bias where good players, by definition, make winning teams better money managers).
So overthecap is wrong?
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Gresham's nine million is from overthecap. The Cardinals are on the hook for $4 million in guaranteed salary plus $1.75 million in pro rated money for three years ($5.25 million). For this season it is better to keep him than release him.
Maybe the Cardinals might actually use him.
Maybe the Cardinals might actually use him.
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If you look at his individual page it shows 9.25 million dead hit
https://overthecap.com/player/jermaine-gresham/185/
Also sportrac shows the same
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/jermaine-gresham-6530/
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Nothing prevents the Badger from negotiating a cash payment in return for dropping the kick-in guarantees.
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The Gresham contract was one of the worst deals Keim has negotiated. And he ruptured his achillies at the end of the season, so there's hardly a guarantee he's even ready for Week 1.
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So far I haven't seen anything from Holden that I would even consider him as a backup yet. Wetzel still has to improve a lot to be a starter. Right now he's a good backup. If we are going to cut Veldheer we would need to use our first round pick on an OT. Then there goes our chance for a QBOTF.
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Why all the questions about matthieu? He is not anything better than average but he is paid like a top safety.It`s simple...cut his sorry ass and let some other team watch him chase open WRS every game.Same with Bucannon... you can probably plug a mid-round draft pick in the ILB spot and get the same results for a lot cheaper.I think mauro is a decent rotation guy but is salary is too high for what he brings.Iupati needs to renogiate or get released.I keep Veldheer because of Humphries injury history and the inexperience of the other tackles.Just cutting Mauro,Matthieu and Bucannon saves close to 18 million right there.
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I don't disagree, but that also has ramifications. Like 10 mil in a dead cap hit.
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Considering Mathieu will make 14 million and Bucannon 9 million even taking a dead cap hit of nearly 10 million still saves 13 million dollars .
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Close enough, but you also shrink the cap by 10 mil. I know it's a trade off, I just hope that HB will take a cut to around 10 mil a year. I doubt he gets that much elsewhere. They could restructure the deal too so that he gets all his money just to lowers the cap, but I don't think that would help the cards much.
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