2019 Draft Prospects...

[1Sun]

Our previous scouts did not seem to matter. We just took whoever the mocks said we should have taken. It could be worse. We could get some of those really smart out of the blue picks that GM's really think are great--Bruno Coboclo, Renaldo Balkman come to mind.

I want to know whose bright idea it was to take Davon Reed over Jordan Bell or Semi Ojeleye.

Or to take Tyler Ennis over Gary Harris, Rodney Hood and Clint Capela.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, James Jones mentioned yesterday or the day before that they had 10 scouts currently scouting the various conferences. The good news is it's not the same decision makers that gave us Bender and Chriss. The bad news is as far as we know they have no track record so we have no idea what to expect from them.

My guess the Suns are concentrating on the top players in the draft. Hopefully the Suns get an early pick so it is a no-brainer.

They can't do much worse than their previous scouts.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

I want to know whose bright idea it was to take Davon Reed over Jordan Bell or Semi Ojeleye.

Or to take Tyler Ennis over Gary Harris, Rodney Hood and Clint Capela.

Those are especially annoying because they seemed like clearly stupid decisions at the time. (at least imho)

 

[SunnyBaller]

Except that Young had a far more successful college career against far superior competition. Other than posting flashy stats against bad competition and doing okay but not spectacular in losses to Auburn and Alabama, Morant hasn't done diddly squat.

And, in case you didn't notice, Young hasn't exactly led the Hawks to any measure of success or improvement.

What's your point on Young not leading them to anything, ATL wasn't a point guard away they were a horrible team, I would have loved to have got Young with ayton, the sun's aren't gonna magically become a top team if the get any point guard in the league outside maybe curry or lillard.

 

[Mainstreet]

I want to know whose bright idea it was to take Davon Reed over Jordan Bell or Semi Ojeleye.

Or to take Tyler Ennis over Gary Harris, Rodney Hood and Clint Capela.

I think the Suns got cute with the selection of Reed.

The selection of Tyler Ennis really drove me crazy. It was like Kendall Marshall revisited.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think the Suns got cute with the selection of Reed.

The selection of Tyler Ennis really drove me crazy. It was like Kendall Marshall revisited.

The Suns gambled on a once injured player and it bit them in the butt. He tore his meniscus again, lost half a step that he couldn't afford and instantly became a borderline NBA/G League player. But had that not happened, I don't think anyone would be criticizing the selection. I think he would have had a career similar to what we are hoping to see from Bridges.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns gambled on a once injured player and it bit them in the butt. He tore his meniscus again, lost half a step that he couldn't afford and instantly became a borderline NBA/G League player. But had that not happened, I don't think anyone would be criticizing the selection. I think he would have had a career similar to what we are hoping to see from Bridges.

Knee injuries are risky for sure. I guess I liked Bell better and Reed was more of an unknown.

However, Bledsoe seems to be doing quite well for himself.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Knee injuries are risky for sure. I guess I liked Bell better and Reed was more of an unknown.

However, Bledsoe seems to be doing quite well for himself.

Reed was a smart all around player that could have been a great 3 and D guy in the NBA. But even before the meniscus tear he had minimal quicks so losing a little quickness was a killer for him. Bledsoe was a far superior athlete and while he seems to have also lost a little quickness, he had more than most in the first place.

 

[Mainstreet]

Reed was a smart all around player that could have been a great 3 and D guy in the NBA. But even before the meniscus tear he had minimal quicks so losing a little quickness was a killer for him. Bledsoe was a far superior athlete and while he seems to have also lost a little quickness, he had more than most in the first place.

Oh yes, they are different players.

Bledsoe seems to be playing as good as ever even with the knee surgery while Reed didn't have a step to give up.

 

[sunsfan88]

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[Russ Smith]

I want to know whose bright idea it was to take Davon Reed over Jordan Bell or Semi Ojeleye.

Or to take Tyler Ennis over Gary Harris, Rodney Hood and Clint Capela.

Speaking of harris good player who may lose his job to Malik Beasley someday soon. Man Beasley in the first half last night, especially the 2nd quarter was on fire. 17 in 27 minutes 5 3's. There was a stretch in the 2nd when he and Klay were hitting 3 after 3 back and forth was really fun to watch. I saw him in college but I had no idea he was this good of a shooter. Harris is better right now but methinks Beasley will eventually be starting there.

 

[Sunburn]

The more I research him, the more I like Darius Garland. Excellent handles, outstanding shooter on and off the ball with deep range, crafty. Reminds me of Steph Curry. Morant needs the ball in his hands to be effective offensively and he doesn't have a good 3 ball. I think Garland could be a good fit for this team.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The more I research him, the more I like Darius Garland. Excellent handles, outstanding shooter on and off the ball with deep range, crafty. Reminds me of Steph Curry. Morant needs the ball in his hands to be effective offensively and he doesn't have a good 3 ball. I think Garland could be a good fit for this team.

He was my consolation prize to Zion until his injury. Now, I'd have to pass as I would not draft a player with a meniscus tear.

 

[devilalum]

Find a picture with veins showing through the fat on Chuck's arms, or Olivers. You won't.

Chucks first year with the Suns he was really fit. He’d just spent the entire off season working out wit the Dream team and was in incredible shape. Its why he won the MVP.


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[Sunburn]

He was my consolation prize to Zion until his injury. Now, I'd have to pass as I would not draft a player with a meniscus tear.

He withdrew from school to fully focus on rehabilitation after his surgery. I have read that the odds of him not fully recovering are very slim. Pending a medical report, his injury would not dissuade me from taking him.

 

[devilalum]

If the Suns can't land one of the top three or four players that fit team needs such as Zion or Morant, I think there is a good chance they trade the pick.

I don’t think picks out of the top 3 will have much value.


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[Mainstreet]

I don’t think picks out of the top 3 will have much value.

I tend to agree. Picks in the top 2 will probably have the most value.

 

[AzStevenCal]

He withdrew from school to fully focus on rehabilitation after his surgery. I have read that the odds of him not fully recovering are very slim. Pending a medical report, his injury would not dissuade me from taking him.

I'm not predicting he won't recover, I just don't want to assume unnecessary risk. I think we conned ourselves into thinking that our medical staff was so special we could take injury risks but it doesn't seem to work out. Drafting players is a crap shoot, drafting known injury risks takes it to a whole other level. If we are ABSOLUTELY sure that he is going to be a star, maybe we take that risk but it's rare when you can be that assured of a prospect. I'd take Zion with that risk but he is one of the very few.

 

[1Sun]

The more I research him, the more I like Darius Garland. Excellent handles, outstanding shooter on and off the ball with deep range, crafty. Reminds me of Steph Curry. Morant needs the ball in his hands to be effective offensively and he doesn't have a good 3 ball. I think Garland could be a good fit for this team.

I would prefer Garland over Morant, frankly.

 

[Sunburn]

I'm not predicting he won't recover, I just don't want to assume unnecessary risk. I think we conned ourselves into thinking that our medical staff was so special we could take injury risks but it doesn't seem to work out. Drafting players is a crap shoot, drafting known injury risks takes it to a whole other level. If we are ABSOLUTELY sure that he is going to be a star, maybe we take that risk but it's rare when you can be that assured of a prospect. I'd take Zion with that risk but he is one of the very few.

Just curious, between Bol Bol and Garland, what injury risk would you prefer to take?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Just curious, between Bol Bol and Garland, what injury risk would you prefer to take?

That's a tough one, choosing between a point guard with knee damage or a big man with a stress fracture in the foot. Garland probably has a better chance to have an extended career but I think I'd pass on both, at least with a high pick.

 

[JCSunsfan]

That's a tough one, choosing between a point guard with knee damage or a big man with a stress fracture in the foot. Garland probably has a better chance to have an extended career but I think I'd pass on both, at least with a high pick.

I think both will be fine, but fractures heal better than meniscus.

 

[Sunburn]

I think both will be fine, but fractures heal better than meniscus.

I'm not sure if foot fractures on big men heal better than a meniscus.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think both will be fine, but fractures heal better than meniscus.

Yeah but a stress fracture in a big man's foot, that's quite worrisome IMO. And yes, they both may come back fine and stay that way. But you're adding risk to risk, I don't think the value is there to support that kind of decision.

I haven't always been this risk averse when it comes to acquiring players but the issues with Bledsoe and Bender have changed my view. I'm in favor of drafting safely and of signing or trading for solid players with clean resumes; no more high risk prospects whether the exposure is from injury history or not.

 

[Hoop Head]

Wasn't there injury concerns with Len's ankles? I remember he had surgery before his rookie year and never seemed to suffer any lingering issues in regards to his health. I'm not sure if his injury was the same as what's being discussed now but I do recall that being a legit worry about him.