2019 Free Agency

[SunnyBaller]

No I mean now. They are behind Toronto(only if Leonard stays), Milwaukee, and philly. They are right there with Boston who has tons of internal issues and no big man on the roster.


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I'd put them behind Boston, kemba might fit that team better than Irving did but who knows
Should be no less than 5th seed

 

[HoodieBets]

I'd put them behind Boston, kemba might fit that team better than Irving did but who knows
Should be no less than 5th seed

Kemba is a pure pick and roll player. He doesn’t fit brads system. That was the problem the young guys had with Kyrie he held the ball too long. Time will tell if it works but he has no one to pick and roll with. Boston lost Kyrie Rozier and Horford. They gained kemba, that’s a net loss.


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[Mainstreet]

Taj Gibson to sign with Knicks.



Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn

Taj Gibson has agreed to a two-year, $20M deal with the Knicks, agent Mark Bartelstein tells ESPN.

5:54 PM - 30 Jun 2019

 

[SunnyBaller]

Taj Gibson to sign with Knicks.



Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn

Taj Gibson has agreed to a two-year, $20M deal with the Knicks, agent Mark Bartelstein tells ESPN.

5:54 PM - 30 Jun 2019

I actually feel worse for Knicks fans than I do for sun's fans, they go from possibly getting KD Irving and Zion, to randle and Gibson , that's gotta hurt

 

[Mainstreet]

No meetings for Leonard today.


Chris Haynes‏Verified account @ChrisBHaynes

Kawhi Leonard will not take any meetings with teams today, as he'll ramp up the process over next couple days, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.


5:59 PM - 30 Jun 2019

 

[Mainstreet]

I actually feel worse for Knicks fans than I do for sun's fans, they go from possibly getting KD Irving and Zion, to randle and Gibson , that's gotta hurt

I hold my breath with the Knicks for fear they will mess things up but I know exactly what you mean.

 

[Phrazbit]

Trying to figure out where a big offer for Oubre comes from right now. A lot of money has been soaked up.

Despite 1Sun "hearing things", there is nothing about Oubre and the Knicks that I can find and they've now signed 2 forwards. Kings just gave Barnes 85 million, they're out. Orlando capped themselves.

Atlanta is a possibility, they've got money to spend, maybe Clippers if they whiff on Leonard?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I hope the Oubre signing is sane. If it is we’re looking at:

Rubio, Jerome
Booker, tj
Oubre, bridges, JJ
Saric, cam (though still not sold the string bean will stand up to nba 4s)
Ayton, Baynes

That’s a much better team than last season. We should see fewer embarrassing blowouts and more competitive games. Still don’t expect any giant leaps. Maybe 10-12 game improvement. So maybe 29-31 wins. The problem is unless Ayton explodes at some point or bridges or jJ exceed expectations, I don’t see that team growing much beyond that. Smaller steps forward like 5 games in subsequent seasons gives us a forecast of:

30-52
35-47
40-44

Imo that’s underwhelming.

 

[Phrazbit]

Butler to the Heat, sign and trade.

 

[Dante]

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I like Horford but that's a crazy contract for a 33 year old IMO.

 

[elindholm]

I hope the Oubre signing is sane. If it is we’re looking at:

Rubio, Jerome
Booker, tj
Oubre, bridges, JJ
Saric, cam (though still not sold the string bean will stand up to nba 4s)
Ayton, Baynes

I have Oubre as the backup PF more likely than CJohnson.

Smaller steps forward like 5 games in subsequent seasons gives us a forecast of:

30-52
35-47
40-44

Imo that’s underwhelming.

The Suns are still at least one major piece away from being a team to get excited about. That player could come through the draft, free agency, or potentially even a trade, but probably not for at least a year. Not every team is on an upswing, and there's always a lot of player movement. Unless they get forced to give Oubre a monster deal, they don't have any long-term bad contracts. "Flexibility" can be an overrated asset, but it's a lot more valuable to a mediocre team than it is to a terrible one.

 

[Mainstreet]

Some of these moves I hope the teams find themselves locked into salary purgatory.

 

[SirStefan32]

Did Ashley Nevel delete her Twitter? Wasn't she the one promising big moves at the draft?

Sorry if someone answered already, but she got into it with some fans who uncovered a bunch of racist tweets from 2011/2012. She made her account private, I assume to clean it all up.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I have Oubre as the backup PF more likely than CJohnson.



The Suns are still at least one major piece away from being a team to get excited about. That player could come through the draft, free agency, or potentially even a trade, but probably not for at least a year. Not every team is on an upswing, and there's always a lot of player movement. Unless they get forced to give Oubre a monster deal, they don't have any long-term bad contracts. "Flexibility" can be an overrated asset, but it's a lot more valuable to a mediocre team than it is to a terrible one.

Yes I’d agree with this. And I’d add that book Ayton and likely Oubre and maybe jJ and bridges aren’t likely to hit their primes until 3 years.

 

[gmabel830]

Sixers spent a little shy of $300 million for Al Horford and Tobias Harris. The money NBA players are getting is mind boggling.


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[Mainstreet]

I've never seen so many moves in free agency nor the creative ways to sign high dollar players.

 

[jlove]

If Dragic can stay healthy, the Mavs are gonna be quite improved next year.

 

[Mainstreet]

Zach Lowe‏Verified account @ZachLowe_NBA


New Orleans is closing in on an agreement with Derrick Favors, sources tell ESPN

7:31 PM - 30 Jun 2019

 

[Sunburn]

Butler to the Heat lowers the value of that 2021 pick fwiw.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm going to be upset if the Suns do not sign Oubre.


John Gambadoro‏Verified account @Gambo987

He @KELLYOUBREJR is a really really good player and I hope that something gets done. He wants to be here in Phoenix and he played his ass off for this team when he got here. Suns have to keep him! I truly believe he can be a huge piece moving forward. Suns need to get it done!

7:37 PM - 30 Jun 2019

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yes I’d agree with this. And I’d add that book Ayton and likely Oubre and maybe jJ and bridges aren’t likely to hit their primes until 3 years.

this is where I'm at. I'm not excited. This was expected. But I'm hoping that the next three years are basically training wheels, where Rubio can help bring Ayton's game along and let Book settle into his natural position.

My guess is our upwards trajectory is 30 wins this year, then probably topping out around 40-45 the next two as our guys get better and maybe they rise even a little higher if this picks (which I'm dubious of) end up being NBA players.

But they've got to sign Oubre. Not signing Oubre and adding a bunch of unathletic white guys and Johnson who might as well be one to this team would keep us running right in place as one of the worst teams in the league.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Some of these moves I hope the teams find themselves locked into salary purgatory.

i'm afraid if you looked in the mirror, you'd see a fan of one of those teams.

 

[Mainstreet]

i'm afraid if you looked in the mirror, you'd see a fan of one of those teams.

The Suns haven't locked themselves into big dollar players over a number of years like the 76ers.

 

[Rab]

I'm going to be upset if the Suns do not sign Oubre.


John Gambadoro‏Verified account @Gambo987

He @KELLYOUBREJR is a really really good player and I hope that something gets done. He wants to be here in Phoenix and he played his ass off for this team when he got here. Suns have to keep him! I truly believe he can be a huge piece moving forward. Suns need to get it done!

7:37 PM - 30 Jun 2019

Couldn’t agree more. I will say what I have been saying for weeks. I will literally be crushed if we lose Oubre.


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[Raindog]

Yes, if the Suns don't resign Oubre, anything "good" they may have done this off-season is essentially out the window. Without Oubre, they will be terrible again next year, if only just a little less so with the other signings.