2019 NBA Playoff Discussion

[Russ Smith]

I wasn't watching so I'm confused why they're making such a big deal out of Steph missing the dunk? I get that it would have made it a 3 point game but given the time the odds were still pretty slim the Rockets were going to lose. Was it just he tried to dunk and missed so it's a big deal, because it seems from the play by play and score that it wasn't a huge play but the game accounts are saying it as if it was a huge reason the Warriors lost. In my mind he makes the dunk they're down 3 with under 20 seconds to play, the Rockets have Paul, Harden and Gordon all good ball handlers and knock down FT shooters, yeah you want him to make the bucket there but to me even if he makes that it's still pretty unlikely they win the game.

 

[Bufalay]

He was just so scary bad on defense. He's a lot like Greg Monroe although I guess he's been able to move more than 3 feet away from the hoop unlike Monroe. But I like his attitude and even though he's a terrorist, he seems to have a good heart.

Terrorist? Are you joking?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Terrorist? Are you joking?

If you can't trust Erdogan, who can you?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Green’s history suggests otherwise.

When a master of cheap shots takes what appears to be a cheap shot I’m going to assume it was a cheap shot.

Sometimes you need to knowledge that you have a dirty pile of crap on your team. I was never a fan of Darnell Docket for that reason.

Considering how many Warriors game I watch yearly, I think I know Green intentional acts and those were not...

 

[AzStevenCal]

Considering how many Warriors game I watch yearly, I think I know Green intentional acts and those were not...

My guess, you're like most of us fans. When it's your team, you believe the ones you have no choice but to believe and defend the others.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I wasn't watching so I'm confused why they're making such a big deal out of Steph missing the dunk? I get that it would have made it a 3 point game but given the time the odds were still pretty slim the Rockets were going to lose. Was it just he tried to dunk and missed so it's a big deal, because it seems from the play by play and score that it wasn't a huge play but the game accounts are saying it as if it was a huge reason the Warriors lost. In my mind he makes the dunk they're down 3 with under 20 seconds to play, the Rockets have Paul, Harden and Gordon all good ball handlers and knock down FT shooters, yeah you want him to make the bucket there but to me even if he makes that it's still pretty unlikely they win the game.

It was very bad, especially in context of the rest of his horrible game. He also missed five easy layups, was 1-3 on free throws and made several very bad and/or head scratching plays on defense.

Klay Thompson was runner up for bad game on Dubs.

Dubs final three shots were : Steph missed layup, Klay missed three footer and Curry’s dunk debacle.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

My guess, you're like most of us fans. When it's your team, you believe the ones you have no choice but to believe and defend the others.

Not really watch the play live and not slowed down, it was not intentional.

 

[Russ Smith]

It was very bad, especially in context of the rest of his horrible game. He also missed five easy layups, was 1-3 on free throws and made several very bad and/or head scratching plays on defense.

Klay Thompson was runner up for bad game on Dubs.

Dubs final three shots were : Steph missed layup, Klay missed three footer and Curry’s dunk debacle.

Yeah I saw he was 7-23. I didn't see the game had to work both days this weekend and got so discombobulated I forgot the game was on yesterday. By the time I realized it was over. I thought it was today for some reason. Wort part was I was at work at 6:45 today expecting to be there until at least 11, and I got home by 9am. Just enough to not be a real weekend. And I have no game to watch.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Not really watch the play live and not slowed down, it was not intentional.

Are you talking about the 2nd eye strike? If so, I'm really talking in general, not any one attack specifically. I believe he's almost always guilty but sure, he's bound to be "innocent" occasionally.

 

[Russ Smith]

Ok so I'm watching the playback on NBA tv and now I have a clear whine.

At the end of regulation Klay Thompson ties up Chris Paul and gets a jump ball. Chris Paul then commits not one, not two but THREE violations on the jump ball and the refs don't call any of them? The ref gets ready to throw the ball up and Paul jumps while the ball is still in the refs hand. The ref waits, and then Paul does it again. And to be clear, the ref is NOT faking, it's just Paul trying to cheat the tip. on the 3rd one the ref throws the ball up and Paul jumps early, collides with Klay and then tips the ball out and the game goes to OT.

I'm not saying they should have called a foul on him, but it should have been a violation and the Warriors get the ball with 1.5 seconds left. I don't know if they had a timeout or not.

 

[Russ Smith]

Whine #2. Rockets up 124-121, Harden drives in Draymond in front he hits the floater and runs over Green no call 5 point lead. Both announcers immediately said is that a no call or what there? It was either a block or a charge, it was outside the circle. It is not a no call. it's a foul they didn't show a replay so I don't know but watching live I am inclined to think it was a charge.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Ok so I'm watching the playback on NBA tv and now I have a clear whine.

At the end of regulation Klay Thompson ties up Chris Paul and gets a jump ball. Chris Paul then commits not one, not two but THREE violations on the jump ball and the refs don't call any of them? The ref gets ready to throw the ball up and Paul jumps while the ball is still in the refs hand. The ref waits, and then Paul does it again. And to be clear, the ref is NOT faking, it's just Paul trying to cheat the tip. on the 3rd one the ref throws the ball up and Paul jumps early, collides with Klay and then tips the ball out and the game goes to OT.

I'm not saying they should have called a foul on him, but it should have been a violation and the Warriors get the ball with 1.5 seconds left. I don't know if they had a timeout or not.

Agreed but I think you understate the 3rd violation. Collision makes it sound like it was an accident and it clearly was intentional and designed to keep Klay from getting off the ground cleanly. And IMO, there should have been a warning on the first jump violation and the second time he tried to gain an advantage, it should have been a delay of game call and perhaps a technical if not just side out.

 

[Russ Smith]

Agreed but I think you understate the 3rd violation. Collision makes it sound like it was an accident and it clearly was intentional and designed to keep Klay from getting off the ground cleanly. And IMO, there should have been a warning on the first jump violation and the second time he tried to gain an advantage, it should have been a delay of game call and perhaps a technical if not just side out.

Oh to be clear if they call a T there I'm mad even if it helps the Warriors win the game(it was tied). But it's clearly a violation, at some point they should have given the Warriors the ball out of bounds with 1.5 seconds left. i don't know if the Warriors had a TO or not, it was an accelerated playback on NBA TV so they don't show the full thing and I had no idea on timeouts. But if they had a TO, they should have been inbounding in the front court with 1.5 seconds which is an eternity in the NBA with shooters like Durant, Klay and Steph on the court(as bad as the last 2 were last night).

The last 2 minute report is not out yet but I'd be very surprised if it doesn't say should have been at least one and as many as 3 violations there. The first one as you said that's a warning. 2nd one is a violation, then he jumps early on the 3rd one(violation) and jumps into Klay which is also a violation.

 

[Ronin]

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[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Ok so I'm watching the playback on NBA tv and now I have a clear whine.

At the end of regulation Klay Thompson ties up Chris Paul and gets a jump ball. Chris Paul then commits not one, not two but THREE violations on the jump ball and the refs don't call any of them? The ref gets ready to throw the ball up and Paul jumps while the ball is still in the refs hand. The ref waits, and then Paul does it again. And to be clear, the ref is NOT faking, it's just Paul trying to cheat the tip. on the 3rd one the ref throws the ball up and Paul jumps early, collides with Klay and then tips the ball out and the game goes to OT.

I'm not saying they should have called a foul on him, but it should have been a violation and the Warriors get the ball with 1.5 seconds left. I don't know if they had a timeout or not.

There was also an uncalled blatant charge on Harden vs. Green late in OT. But you don’t see Dubs sending a dissertation to the league like the Rockets. The only positive about last night was the Warriors played a terrible game and were still in position to win the game.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

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lol

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Agreed but I think you understate the 3rd violation. Collision makes it sound like it was an accident and it clearly was intentional and designed to keep Klay from getting off the ground cleanly. And IMO, there should have been a warning on the first jump violation and the second time he tried to gain an advantage, it should have been a delay of game call and perhaps a technical if not just side out.

I was texting my buddy during that whole sequence in disbelief call not made...

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Oh to be clear if they call a T there I'm mad even if it helps the Warriors win the game(it was tied). But it's clearly a violation, at some point they should have given the Warriors the ball out of bounds with 1.5 seconds left. i don't know if the Warriors had a TO or not, it was an accelerated playback on NBA TV so they don't show the full thing and I had no idea on timeouts. But if they had a TO, they should have been inbounding in the front court with 1.5 seconds which is an eternity in the NBA with shooters like Durant, Klay and Steph on the court(as bad as the last 2 were last night).

The last 2 minute report is not out yet but I'd be very surprised if it doesn't say should have been at least one and as many as 3 violations there. The first one as you said that's a warning. 2nd one is a violation, then he jumps early on the 3rd one(violation) and jumps into Klay which is also a violation.

They had two timeouts remaining.

 

[Ronin]

Malika Andrews (@malika_andrews) Tweeted:
Malcolm Brogdon will be out for Game 4, Mike Budenholzer said.

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[Ronin]

Tom Westerholm (@Tom_NBA) Tweeted:
Marcus Smart is “hopeful” about tomorrow, with all the usual caveats about not being certain and being smart about his recovery.

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[Ronin]

Shams Charania‏Verified account @ShamsCharania 33s34 seconds ago
Pascal Siakam will play in Game 4 against the Philadelphia 76ers.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

And you hate Draymond Green and your bias is closing your view of tonight’s play. You think intentional, I believe It was not...

You’ve got the least credibility on this board in regards to green.

I rewatched and it’s either intentional or so flagrantly reckless so as to blur the line between intentional and unintentional. I live draymond a game, up to the point where he becomes a dangerous classless punk.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Both Bogut and Jerebko had double digit - totals in 4 or 5 minutes played. Kerr said on ABC after the game that in this series it's tough for him to play the bench much, he said we can't go 8 minutes with lots of bench guys ni this series the matchups just don't work.

Notice Quinn Cook not playing at all, good shooter, but cant' guard, the Rockets guards ate him up in the regular season so he's getting almost no run at all.

And the rockets are playing REAL guard heavy minutes. Out of 260 possible minutes last night a traditional “big” played 60. That’s like 23% where a normal PF/C combo likely plays 40%.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Considering how many Warriors game I watch yearly, I think I know Green intentional acts and those were not...

Lol. Uh no. You’re a totally unreliable source on that count.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Whine #2. Rockets up 124-121, Harden drives in Draymond in front he hits the floater and runs over Green no call 5 point lead. Both announcers immediately said is that a no call or what there? It was either a block or a charge, it was outside the circle. It is not a no call. it's a foul they didn't show a replay so I don't know but watching live I am inclined to think it was a charge.

Yup that had to be SOME kind of call.