2021-22 Around the NBA Thread

[Mainstreet]

Oh I'm sure it will be reviewed. My guess, they come to the same conclusion that I did. It looks suspicious given Lebron's skills and the way the game is going but they'll conclude there's enough doubt about his intent to let the referee decision stand.

I've seen flagrant fouls called for much, much less. There was no arc on the pass. It looked to be thrown at the head.

I'm not sure why Lebron gets the benefit of the doubt other than a Timberwolves player broke for the basket and Vanderbilt's response was to run the court.

If there wasn't fast break I think it becomes obvious to all doubters.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I've seen flagrant fouls called for much, much less. There was no arc on the pass. It was thrown at the head.

I'm not sure why Lebron gets the benefit of the doubt other than a Timberwolves player broke for the basket and Vanderbilt's instinct responded to fill the lane.

If there was no fast break I think it becomes obvious to all.

Because you don't KNOW intent. I've seen the same kind of plays many times and even some where I was absolutely positive it was intentional (John Starks and Patrick Beverley come to mind) and the league has passed on it because there's a sliver of doubt about intent. If he'd been raging or engaged in a shoving match with him, maybe they go the other way on it but that didn't appear to be the case.

Now, I didn't watch the whole game so maybe there is some prior action that adds weight to it being intentional but from that video and the TV replays I've seen of it, I just don't believe they'll do anything about it. But we'll see.

 

[Dback Jon]

Oh I'm sure it will be reviewed. My guess, they come to the same conclusion that I did. It looks suspicious given Lebron's skills and the way the game is going but they'll conclude there's enough doubt about his intent to let the referee decision stand.

Which is probably where it will end up

But if someone did that to LeBron person would get a 10 game suspension

 

[Mainstreet]

Because you don't KNOW intent. I've seen the same kind of plays many times and even some where I was absolutely positive it was intentional (John Starks and Patrick Beverley come to mind) and the league has passed on it because there's a sliver of doubt about intent. If he'd been raging or engaged in a shoving match with him, maybe they go the other way on it but that didn't appear to be the case.

Now, I didn't watch the whole game so maybe there is some prior action that adds weight to it being intentional but from that video and the TV replays I've seen of it, I just don't believe they'll do anything about it. But we'll see.

If you are going with intent, there doesn't even have to be intent to commit a crime.

Personally I don't need the league office to interpret what I saw much like the incidents with Patrick Beverley in the playoffs last season.

I doubt if the NBA does anything about it either.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I've seen flagrant fouls called for much, much less. There was no arc on the pass. It looked to be thrown at the head.

I'm not sure why Lebron gets the benefit of the doubt other than a Timberwolves player broke for the basket and Vanderbilt's response was to run the court.

If there wasn't fast break I think it becomes obvious to all doubters.

What? The fast break has nothing to do with my, and Russ’ perspective. Maybe to the ref not calling a tech, but not necessarily to “the doubters.” In fact, the fast break is immaterial to our perceptions. There’s a teammate that flashes to the free throw line that is in direct line of lebrons pass. Could it be intentional that he hit the defender? Sure. But it could also be he was throwing a pass and just not paying attention to exactly where the defender was.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If you are going with intent, there doesn't even have to be intent to commit a crime.

Personally I don't need the league office to interpret what I saw much like the incidents with Patrick Beverley in the playoffs last season.

I doubt if the NBA does anything about it either.

Welp here we are with bad legal takes. A key element of finding a person guilty of MANY crimes is called mens rea. Almost literally intent.

 

[Mainstreet]

What? The fast break has nothing to do with my, and Russ’ perspective. Maybe to the ref not calling a tech, but not necessarily to “the doubters.” In fact, the fast break is immaterial to our perceptions. There’s a teammate that flashes to the free throw line that is in direct line of lebrons pass. Could it be intentional that he hit the defender? Sure. But it could also be he was throwing a pass and just not paying attention to exactly where the defender was.

Some think Lebron was trying to deflect the ball off Vanderbilt's face.

I think the pass to the head was intentional but that's my opinion.

Almost everything is possible I suppose.

NBA, Lakers vs Timberwolves: LeBron's blunder pass leads to Beasley's dunk; Watch

The event occurred in the opening minutes of the third quarter when Vanderbilt came near to snatching the ball away from LeBron James.

www.republicworld.com

 

[Chaplin]

Some think Lebron was trying to deflect the ball off Vanderbilt's face.

I think the pass to the head was intentional but that's my opinion.

Almost everything is possible I suppose.

NBA, Lakers vs Timberwolves: LeBron's blunder pass leads to Beasley's dunk; Watch

The event occurred in the opening minutes of the third quarter when Vanderbilt came near to snatching the ball away from LeBron James.

www.republicworld.com

I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think it was intentional. It is clear that the ball was moving towards Anthony Davis who was curling. Why in the world would Lebron do that to a guy that wasn't even crowding him? I don't like Lebron, but that is an extreme reach that he did it intentionally.

 

[Mainstreet]

Welp here we are with bad legal takes. A key element of finding a person guilty of MANY crimes is called mens rea. Almost literally intent.

I don't you should be the one acussing others of "bad legal takes."

 

[Chaplin]

I don't you should be the one acussing others of "bad legal takes."

Um, why? Ouchie is a LAWYER.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Some think Lebron was trying to deflect the ball off Vanderbilt's face.

I think the pass to the head was intentional but that's my opinion.

Almost everything is possible I suppose.

NBA, Lakers vs Timberwolves: LeBron's blunder pass leads to Beasley's dunk; Watch

The event occurred in the opening minutes of the third quarter when Vanderbilt came near to snatching the ball away from LeBron James.

www.republicworld.com

????

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Um, why? Ouchie is a LAWYER.

Lol. Thx chap

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't you should be the one acussing others of "bad legal takes."

He’s a LAWYER. He’s exactly the one who. An accuse others of bad legal takes.

And as someone who also went to law school, I can also tell you that the idea that intent doesn’t matter while being found guilty of a crime is beyond stupid. That’s LITERALLY one of the FIRST things taught in Law School.

 

[Mainstreet]

????

The article had a different take, that LeBron was trying to deflect the ball off Vanderbilt's head.

It was a footnote of sorts.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The article had a different take, that LeBron was trying to deflect the ball off Vanderbilt's head.

It was a footnote of sorts.

Huh, that’s an interesting take. Not buying that one. It would be virtually impossible to calculate that and throw it to work. Not quite the same as inbounding a ball off an unsuspecting defending backside.

 

[Mainstreet]

Huh, that’s an interesting take. Not buying that one. It would be virtually impossible to calculate that and throw it to work. Not quite the same as inbounding a ball off an unsuspecting defending backside.

I didn't buy it either but the writer seemed to feel hitting Vanderbilt in the head in some manner was intentional.

 

[Mainstreet]

Anthony Davis will miss at least 4 weeks with MCL sprain in left knee.

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[Cheesebeef]

Anthony Davis will miss at least 4 weeks with MCL sprain in left knee.

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With AD, I expect two months.

 

[Mainstreet]

With AD, I expect two months.

I wouldn't doubt it. He has had those type problems before. He could be out until right before the playoffs.

 

[Dback Jon]

With AD, I expect two months.

No doubt.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No doubt.

And then I expect the Lakers to beat the Thunder by 5 points and have the entire media collectively yell:

ARE THE LAKERS NOW THE FAVORITES TO WIN THE TITLE?!

 

[AzStevenCal]

And then I expect the Lakers to beat the Thunder by 5 points and have the entire media collectively yell:

ARE THE LAKERS NOW THE FAVORITES TO WIN THE TITLE?!

Yeah the media can't get over their Lakers/Cowboys bias. Either team can lose 3 in a row and the moment they win a game, out comes the "they've figured it out and there's no stopping them now" nonsense.

 

[Finito]

And then I expect the Lakers to beat the Thunder by 5 points and have the entire media collectively yell:

ARE THE LAKERS NOW THE FAVORITES TO WIN THE TITLE?!

It’s embarrassing. Literally every single game they play is covered

 

[Mainstreet]

Raptors beat the Warriors tonight so Suns retake 1st place in the West/League.

Warriors had a bunch of players out including Steph Curry.

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[Dback Jon]

Jazz lose second straight home game - to Washington